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QF ignoranceneonx wrote:Can someone cue me in on what "QF" means?
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QF elitismeskimo wrote:QF ignoranceneonx wrote:Can someone cue me in on what "QF" means?
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wow that last QF burned out quick....absolutazn87 wrote:QF new pageabsolutazn87 wrote:I'm following the trend and turning my "Hold" spreadsheet into a form too.
If you've been held, fill this form out!
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/viewfo ... c6MQ#gid=0
Results:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... y=CJCcv50J
If you've already posted your numbers before in this thread or you've PMed me, don't fill out the form
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r6_philly

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QF kettlismKnock wrote:QF elitismeskimo wrote:QF ignoranceneonx wrote:Can someone cue me in on what "QF" means?.
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- bistduverrueckt

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I love the way you think Habiteskimo wrote:<3Excellence = a Habit wrote:For the forgotten group, I am pretty sure that you will be receiving 1/28 batch VCEs in the next day or two. Obviously!
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QF bandwagonismr6_philly wrote:QF kettlismKnock wrote:QF elitismeskimo wrote:QF ignoranceneonx wrote:Can someone cue me in on what "QF" means?.
- mel2010

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I like this theory, but I am relatively prepared to defeat it.bistduverrueckt wrote:I love the way you think Habiteskimo wrote:<3Excellence = a Habit wrote:For the forgotten group, I am pretty sure that you will be receiving 1/28 batch VCEs in the next day or two. Obviously!
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Re: Columbia 2011!
This process is incredibly unhealthy.
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r6_philly

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The incessant back patting is infectious.arkansawyer wrote:This process is incredibly unhealthy.
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I just heard Columbia is sending out rejections in vomit colored envelopes.
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boushi

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I've been mulling the hold thing over quite a bit and, while there may be multiple reasons for holds (one applicant may be held as yp, one for having borderline numbers), I'm having a hard time reconciling my hold with any of the rubenstein/rankings-gaming theories, beyond the general aspiration I assume every school has for higher yields (though that interpretation would seem to cut both ways in my case).
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/boushi
I'm 172/3.88/4.39index, Oct. submission with solid work experience, recs, PS, and softs. (I feel confident in the strength of those unquantifiables by way of getting one of the higher scholarship offers possible at UVA for OOS RD with my numbers -- 30k per year). I'm in so far at D/NU/V$$/NYU/C, Held at H, Pending at B(no 4 pg. PS)/S.
The only ways I would fit under a yield-increasing theory is if (1) they had reason to believe I would take more money at a lower ranked school. or (2) they thought I would get into HYS.
Honestly, I think compared to people with a 173+ LSAT or a 3.9+ GPA, I stand a substantially worse chance of breaking HYS while not hurting Columbia's medians at all, and thus, in the eyes of Columbia, I would be a solid admit choice from a YP perspective; if Columbia REALLY wanted to just increase their yield, I think numbers like mine would be exactly their sweet spot. Moreover, I'm a NY resident (living abroad now, but family/mailing address still in NY), and my language skills line up very closely with their research institutes, so I think a holistic consideration of my app would also lead an admissions officer to conclude that, among applicants in my numbers sweet spot, I would have among the highest chances of attending.
Would the Rubensteins really affect my hold decision?
While I may stand to benefit from some coattails effects from the rubensteins (allowing the non-rubensteins like me to receive more freed-up aid), I'm not sure how this would really affect Columbia's outlook on my app in the larger game theory of admissions choices. If anything, waiting to see who is snipered away with Rubensteins and HYS offers and then offering me an "off the hold" admission down the line, would, in theory, decrease my likelihood of attendance since I'd have more time to be courted by other schools and consider scholarships, etc. (not saying that's the case -- but it stands to reason).
Conclusion: I think Columbia just doesn't really like me for whatever reason.
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/boushi
I'm 172/3.88/4.39index, Oct. submission with solid work experience, recs, PS, and softs. (I feel confident in the strength of those unquantifiables by way of getting one of the higher scholarship offers possible at UVA for OOS RD with my numbers -- 30k per year). I'm in so far at D/NU/V$$/NYU/C, Held at H, Pending at B(no 4 pg. PS)/S.
The only ways I would fit under a yield-increasing theory is if (1) they had reason to believe I would take more money at a lower ranked school. or (2) they thought I would get into HYS.
Honestly, I think compared to people with a 173+ LSAT or a 3.9+ GPA, I stand a substantially worse chance of breaking HYS while not hurting Columbia's medians at all, and thus, in the eyes of Columbia, I would be a solid admit choice from a YP perspective; if Columbia REALLY wanted to just increase their yield, I think numbers like mine would be exactly their sweet spot. Moreover, I'm a NY resident (living abroad now, but family/mailing address still in NY), and my language skills line up very closely with their research institutes, so I think a holistic consideration of my app would also lead an admissions officer to conclude that, among applicants in my numbers sweet spot, I would have among the highest chances of attending.
Would the Rubensteins really affect my hold decision?
While I may stand to benefit from some coattails effects from the rubensteins (allowing the non-rubensteins like me to receive more freed-up aid), I'm not sure how this would really affect Columbia's outlook on my app in the larger game theory of admissions choices. If anything, waiting to see who is snipered away with Rubensteins and HYS offers and then offering me an "off the hold" admission down the line, would, in theory, decrease my likelihood of attendance since I'd have more time to be courted by other schools and consider scholarships, etc. (not saying that's the case -- but it stands to reason).
Conclusion: I think Columbia just doesn't really like me for whatever reason.
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7ED

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I am assuming this is the list for people who were not admitted but have NOT received the hold e-mail yet.r6_philly wrote:
r6
dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
LAWLAW09
bistduverrueckt
arkansawyer
7ED
Just wanted to say a couple things.
1. I get home and see the 251 pages and my reaction is "wth did dings come out today?"
2. A guy a couple threads back, mapes. 2 gold quality comments both of which made me LOL. Total win.
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justhoping

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i'm on a tangent here just out of curiosity, is the vomit colour Columbia's school colour? and how long has it been called "vomit"?
- Excellence = a Habit

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Thanks Knock et al.Knock wrote:There's a form now! And <3<3<3 Habit. We missed you today!Excellence = a Habit wrote:Wowwww. What a day to have so many meetings that I never even turned on my computer till I got home tonight at 11.
I am held. HOORAY FOR NO OUTRIGHT REJECTION!! And it looks like I am in good company (way too good company for me to eventually get accepted, but that's alright).
For the forgotten group, I am pretty sure that you will be receiving 1/28 batch VCEs in the next day or two. Obviously!
I only read every third page from 215 to 249... can someone tell me, are we still pming absoluteazn to get our stats on the spreadsheet or is there a form now? (For the holds, not the forgotten group)
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I tried to catch up on the last 30 pages... I got bored.
I didn't get a hold email -- can anyone summarize for me whether this is good or bad?
I didn't get a hold email -- can anyone summarize for me whether this is good or bad?
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WestOfTheRest

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Might aswell throw myself on the list.r6_philly wrote:
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dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
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GraniteState

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Re: Columbia 2011!
QF adding myselfdulc and everyone else wrote:r6
dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
LAWLAW09
bistduverrueckt
arkansawyer
7ED
CastleRock
GraniteState
Edit: Castle beat me to it
- law_monkey

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<3 <3 <3 I was wondering where you were today! And thanks for your optimistic thoughts toward the non-holds (although someone in LA already reported getting a 1/28 envelope so I can't use that, but I was still grateful for your happy thoughts!)Excellence = a Habit wrote:Wowwww. What a day to have so many meetings that I never even turned on my computer till I got home tonight at 11.
I am held. HOORAY FOR NO OUTRIGHT REJECTION!! And it looks like I am in good company (way too good company for me to eventually get accepted, but that's alright).
For the forgotten group, I am pretty sure that you will be receiving 1/28 batch VCEs in the next day or two. Obviously!
I only read every third page from 215 to 249... can someone tell me, are we still pming absoluteazn to get our stats on the spreadsheet or is there a form now? (For the holds, not the forgotten group)
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Oh yeah I haven't done this yet either.GraniteState wrote:QF adding myselfdulc and everyone else wrote:r6
dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
LAWLAW09
bistduverrueckt
arkansawyer
7ED
CastleRock
GraniteState
law_monkey
Edit: Castle beat me to it
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justhoping

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Re: Columbia 2011!
nobody knows, just speculations.hiddenfist wrote:I tried to catch up on the last 30 pages... I got bored.
I didn't get a hold email -- can anyone summarize for me whether this is good or bad?
I think some of the non-hold people have VCEs on their way (and therefore are not held), others WL/ding e-mails coming up. the held people are a confused mixture of borderline/YP/unread-files?
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- math101

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I think I remember something along the lines of the former from an info session I went to back in Oct/Nov. They basically want to know what their admit pool looks like before going back to those apps. So, we've been relegated to paperweights and table levelers until April, I think.santoinettea wrote:
Haha, well best of luck to you guys! : ) The hold thing is so mysterious. The letter said we're under "active consideration," but google searches are indicating that "hold" means we go off into another pile for later consideration once they get a better feel for the applicant pool. I like the connotation of active though, so I'm going with that..... Maybe.
The letter also said we'll know no later than April 22nd; that's a long time to be up in the air.
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Vertigo963

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OK, I've been lurking for a while, but I'll add my name to the list of no-envelope no-hold.dulc and everyone else wrote:r6
dulcatis
justhoping
RJ127
absolutazn87
forward
Philip_J_Fry
Kent M
TrustMeI'mAnActress
glitched
ahduth
bmore
LAWLAW09
bistduverrueckt
arkansawyer
7ED
CastleRock
GraniteState
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Vertigo963
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akikaze

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For posterity regarding the events of 2 February 2011:
* Those who received a "hold" letter had in-range stats, but nothing else is known about their candidacy
* Those who did not are facing an imminent decision: accept, reject, WL
That's really all we can say at this stage.
* Those who received a "hold" letter had in-range stats, but nothing else is known about their candidacy
* Those who did not are facing an imminent decision: accept, reject, WL
That's really all we can say at this stage.
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WestOfTheRest

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I don't think you can say the second point with any certainty. If so you would have expected the same outcome out of HLS.akikaze wrote:For posterity regarding the events of 2 February 2011:
* Those who received a "hold" letter had in-range stats, but nothing else is known about their candidacy
* Those who did not are facing an imminent decision: accept, reject, WL
That's really all we can say at this stage.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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