Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014) Forum

[bbkk]

Does anyone know if there were different rates of acceptance between KB1s and JS1s? I wonder if certain interviewers are more likely to get favorable impressions of candidates.

I thought there is no more KB? Or now we are referring all non-JS interviewers as KB1?

Draw's referring to the previous cycle, I think.

yep nep

I see.

[drawstring]

Well I'm hoping that they're still concerned about LSAT medians!

ftfy

We can both help you keep that 173, JS

[drawstring]

Ya, although it's the same idea (is JS a more favorable interviewer than the others, etc.).

[neprep]

Ya, although it's the same idea (is JS a more favorable interviewer than the others, etc.).

I think the perception people had was that JS ensured that the interview proceeded organically from the application, whereas the other interviewers were more formal in that they seemed to have a list of impersonal questions. I don't think this would actually affect the outcome of the interview, unless the interviewee is particularly averse to either approach so much so as to underperform.

[staples88]

Although the first 2 reasons are great, I'm actually curious about 3 because I can see it going both ways. There's "a guy with similar, maybe slightly better numbers got in, so I have a chance." But I think this is more appropriate when we see someone like binarytheatrics (4/174). When those w/o those types of numbers like you and me are speculating, don't you think an acceptance like neprep's (congrats) could just as well mean our own odds are worse because now that they've helped their LSAT median, they might look to "balance" him with an above-median GPA.

Also, their taking someone like Mort this early (congrats) could mean not only does he have a unique profile, but also that they're not too concerned about maintaining their LSAT

Also iirc the average HYP hls admit has a 3.7 so it can't be that different. There's also the idea of a floor (I.e., <25 GPA is OK, but not if it's below the floor)

Idk, I prefer to look at these sorts of things as a glass half full mentality. You're correct that by admitting nep it could mean our odds are worse, or it could be an indicator that they are needing some median LSATs, and there are more acceptances to come for 173s. We don't know the answer, so I choose to believe its the latter . As far as accepting Mort, I don't think that indicates they aren't concerned about maintaining their LSAT. Every year they admit plenty of people below the 25th percentile LSAT who have unique profiles. Mort's acceptance is great for Mort (obviously), and in some small way, good for splitters, because now they need a median or above LSAT to balance that out.

In any case this is all micro stuff, I don't know that we can say with near certainty what any of it means, so I choose to be on the optimistic side until HLS tells me otherwise

Edit: This post # was my birth year, so I just wanted to come back and acknowledge that for luck. Anything at this point lol.

Oops I didn't write what I drafted: yes there are ppl like kingsfield and mort every year but the timing might be telling. He heard back in the 3rd wave, in Jan instead of April or Aug. If hls were worried about maintaining their 173, wouldn't they, as you theorized a few months ago, wait til April or Aug to see how the pool and yield plays out?

And Mort was below both medians so he was probably already balanced by someone like binarytheatrics who was above both. Otherwise they'd have to take 2 apps, a splitter and a reverse splitter.

And what I meant to say (a minor point) a few posts ago was that YUG and PUG report that the average hls admit from their schools has about a 3.7. It can't be that different for neprep's top 10 UG.

[pokemonsters]

So, no calls today. Looks like this wave is done. Any guesses on when we'll see more JS2's? Im guessing mid-February.

[midwest17]

And Mort was below both medians so he was probably already balanced by someone like binarytheatrics who was above both. Otherwise they'd have to take 2 apps, a splitter and a reverse splitter.

A below-both, a reverse splitter, and a splitter don't balance, unfortunately.

[selden]

And Mort was below both medians so he was probably already balanced by someone like binarytheatrics who was above both. Otherwise they'd have to take 2 apps, a splitter and a reverse splitter.

A below-both, a reverse splitter, and a splitter don't balance, unfortunately.

They could...but I see what you're saying.

[staples88]

And Mort was below both medians so he was probably already balanced by someone like binarytheatrics who was above both. Otherwise they'd have to take 2 apps, a splitter and a reverse splitter.

A below-both, a reverse splitter, and a splitter don't balance, unfortunately.

Lol Yea which is more reason to think that they're more likely to balance a below-both with an above both than a splitter.

[Optimist Prime]

omg

I have like nearly identical numbers too and interviewed a bit later. Hope is back.

Hey Draw, if you don't mind me asking, any reason for the lack of hope other than the long post JS1 wait? Seems like according to LSN you should be a lock. Did you accidentally stand up while not wear pants during the interview?

[drawstring]

omg

I have like nearly identical numbers too and interviewed a bit later. Hope is back.

Hey Draw, if you don't mind me asking, any reason for the lack of hope other than the long post JS1 wait? Seems like according to LSN you should be a lock. Did you accidentally stand up while not wear pants during the interview?

It's pretty much just the long wait and seeing so many people get accepted with similar or worse numbers even though they interviewed much later. It makes me think that there is something about my application they don't like, even though nothing really stood out to me as being that detrimental; I thought my interview was ok, I don't have CF issues, I don't have crappy softs, and my PS wasn't crazy or anything like that.

[Jessasaurus]

So this discussion is fun and all, but where are our JS2s?

jk i love you all

Haha. If we discuss the worst case scenario we can only be pleasantly surprised if we get JS2's.

Let's be honest, I'll be pleasantly surprised if I get a JS2 no matter what.

Good point. I miss the pre-JS1 days when I had forgotten about HLS the moment I submitted my app.

SUPER THIS. Although I would have never found TLS if I didn't get a JS1. So it's a mixed bag for me

[edwardt1988]

omg

I have like nearly identical numbers too and interviewed a bit later. Hope is back.

Hey Draw, if you don't mind me asking, any reason for the lack of hope other than the long post JS1 wait? Seems like according to LSN you should be a lock. Did you accidentally stand up while not wear pants during the interview?

It's pretty much just the long wait and seeing so many people get accepted with similar or worse numbers even though they interviewed much later. It makes me think that there is something about my application they don't like, even though nothing really stood out to me as being that detrimental; I thought my interview was ok, I don't have CF issues, I don't have crappy softs, and my PS wasn't crazy or anything like that.

4.0 GPA is really impressive though, I'm sure they will take you. On the other hand, I don't think they need many more people with my numbers, and since I wasn't included in this wave, I think a waitlist is my best possible outcome. However, this past wave was still good because they accepted a bunch of you cool TLSers (Mort, who is going to inhert your "tomorrow?")

[Pau.C.]

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[ShrimpToastMasters]

It's pretty much just the long wait and seeing so many people get accepted with similar or worse numbers even though they interviewed much later. It makes me think that there is something about my application they don't like, even though nothing really stood out to me as being that detrimental; I thought my interview was ok, I don't have CF issues, I don't have crappy softs, and my PS wasn't crazy or anything like that.

This is what I think every day! (except I haven't even interviewed yet, and my softs are indeed crappy.)

+ a hundred million bajillion i-literally-cannot-express-how-much-this-is-my-feels

*(edit - should've quoted the original quote only, had JS1 in what feels like forever-ago, and have decent softs. decent. not outstanding.)

[ShrimpToastMasters]

deleted. too much toggling between threads.

[Optimist Prime]

omg

I have like nearly identical numbers too and interviewed a bit later. Hope is back.

Hey Draw, if you don't mind me asking, any reason for the lack of hope other than the long post JS1 wait? Seems like according to LSN you should be a lock. Did you accidentally stand up while not wear pants during the interview?

It's pretty much just the long wait and seeing so many people get accepted with similar or worse numbers even though they interviewed much later. It makes me think that there is something about my application they don't like, even though nothing really stood out to me as being that detrimental; I thought my interview was ok, I don't have CF issues, I don't have crappy softs, and my PS wasn't crazy or anything like that.

Got it, maybe JS wrote on the blog that she had checked behind her desk that day and there weren't any applications... because she checked the day before and found yours. Good luck, I'm sure it will come eventually.

[lawschool22]

Can we get info on stats from people who are RD, not why Penn? Thx. I'm at the WTF breaking point :/

Wrong thread shrimp

[ShrimpToastMasters]

Can we get info on stats from people who are RD, not why Penn? Thx. I'm at the WTF breaking point :/

Wrong thread shrimp

noted whoops!

[manu6926]

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[iamgeorgebush]

Stats are 174, 4.12.

Just stop there.

[Colorado10]

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[koalacity]

If everyone at Harvard is as needy and hungry for attention as Mort, then damn, it would be quite a place to be for 3 years.

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[lawschool22]

If everyone at Harvard is as needy and hungry for attention as Mort, then damn, it would be quite a place to be for 3 years.

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Tell us how you really feel, koala

[koalacity]

If everyone at Harvard is as needy and hungry for attention as Mort, then damn, it would be quite a place to be for 3 years.

wat
GTFO this thread.

Tell us how you really feel, koala

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