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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by crystallize » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:14 pm

gryffinclaw wrote:
oh lawd wrote:
Lucyfur wrote:
gryffinclaw wrote:Does anyone know how generous UCLA is with $$ compared to USC?
Not sure but I'd imagine not as generous...they're cheaper and have a better ranking.
So, maybe they are as generous or close to as generous factoring in USC's (ridiculous) cost? Meaning UCLA could offer $30K less but it would be the equal equivalent since USC costs 30K more? (assuming you are an out-of-state student who gets in-state after year 1)
Thanks guys!
My friend who goes to UCLA got $0 from them but $90k from USC and after negotiating ended up with $30k from UCLA. I hope that helps!

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by calgoldenbear » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:16 pm

crystallize wrote:
gryffinclaw wrote:
oh lawd wrote:
Lucyfur wrote:
gryffinclaw wrote:Does anyone know how generous UCLA is with $$ compared to USC?
Not sure but I'd imagine not as generous...they're cheaper and have a better ranking.
So, maybe they are as generous or close to as generous factoring in USC's (ridiculous) cost? Meaning UCLA could offer $30K less but it would be the equal equivalent since USC costs 30K more? (assuming you are an out-of-state student who gets in-state after year 1)
Thanks guys!
My friend who goes to UCLA got $0 from them but $90k from USC and after negotiating ended up with $30k from UCLA. I hope that helps!
How competitive of an applicant was your friend?

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by crystallize » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:17 pm

calgoldenbear wrote:
crystallize wrote:
gryffinclaw wrote:
oh lawd wrote:
Lucyfur wrote:
gryffinclaw wrote:Does anyone know how generous UCLA is with $$ compared to USC?
Not sure but I'd imagine not as generous...they're cheaper and have a better ranking.
So, maybe they are as generous or close to as generous factoring in USC's (ridiculous) cost? Meaning UCLA could offer $30K less but it would be the equal equivalent since USC costs 30K more? (assuming you are an out-of-state student who gets in-state after year 1)
Thanks guys!
My friend who goes to UCLA got $0 from them but $90k from USC and after negotiating ended up with $30k from UCLA. I hope that helps!
How competitive of an applicant was your friend?
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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by oh lawd » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:07 pm

How do we feel about sending UCLA competing offers before we get the initial offer?

Pros:
- Let's them know financial aide is a major factor AND we are really willing to negotiate hard
- Puts us a step ahead in the process, maybe avoiding the "lowball" phase and skipping straight to the good stuff

Cons:
- Showing them your cards. If they know what USC, etc. offered then they know "alright, we don't have to match that on the first go round
- Being generally annoying.

Thoughts?

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by urbanist11 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:08 pm

Don't do it. You'll show your cards too soon and lose all leverage.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by ProductofUnreality » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:16 pm

oh lawd wrote:How do we feel about sending UCLA competing offers before we get the initial offer?

Pros:
- Let's them know financial aide is a major factor AND we are really willing to negotiate hard
- Puts us a step ahead in the process, maybe avoiding the "lowball" phase and skipping straight to the good stuff

Cons:
- Showing them your cards. If they know what USC, etc. offered then they know "alright, we don't have to match that on the first go round
- Being generally annoying.

Thoughts?
Don't. Whomever makes the first offer is at a disadvantage. By sending competing offers you're essentially making an offer.

Would you ever show your hand in poker before you have to? If so I'd like to get together for a game with a $1,000 buy in.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by oh lawd » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:22 pm

ProductofUnreality wrote:
oh lawd wrote:How do we feel about sending UCLA competing offers before we get the initial offer?

Pros:
- Let's them know financial aide is a major factor AND we are really willing to negotiate hard
- Puts us a step ahead in the process, maybe avoiding the "lowball" phase and skipping straight to the good stuff

Cons:
- Showing them your cards. If they know what USC, etc. offered then they know "alright, we don't have to match that on the first go round
- Being generally annoying.

Thoughts?
Don't. Whomever makes the first offer is at a disadvantage. By sending competing offers you're essentially making an offer.

Would you ever show your hand in poker before you have to? If so I'd like to get together for a game with a $1,000 buy in.
That explains why they're acceptance e-mail invites us to send in competing offers

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by ProductofUnreality » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:29 pm

oh lawd wrote:
ProductofUnreality wrote:
oh lawd wrote:How do we feel about sending UCLA competing offers before we get the initial offer?

Pros:
- Let's them know financial aide is a major factor AND we are really willing to negotiate hard
- Puts us a step ahead in the process, maybe avoiding the "lowball" phase and skipping straight to the good stuff

Cons:
- Showing them your cards. If they know what USC, etc. offered then they know "alright, we don't have to match that on the first go round
- Being generally annoying.

Thoughts?
Don't. Whomever makes the first offer is at a disadvantage. By sending competing offers you're essentially making an offer.

Would you ever show your hand in poker before you have to? If so I'd like to get together for a game with a $1,000 buy in.
That explains why they're acceptance e-mail invites us to send in competing offers
I was in the admissions office last week and a girl came in asking if UCLA matches offers and whether she should send them her current offers. They got pretty excited and asked her to please send the info so they could consider it. Bad poker face on their part and bad move on hers if she sent it.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by gryffinclaw » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:35 pm

ProductofUnreality wrote:
oh lawd wrote:
ProductofUnreality wrote:
oh lawd wrote:How do we feel about sending UCLA competing offers before we get the initial offer?

Pros:
- Let's them know financial aide is a major factor AND we are really willing to negotiate hard
- Puts us a step ahead in the process, maybe avoiding the "lowball" phase and skipping straight to the good stuff

Cons:
- Showing them your cards. If they know what USC, etc. offered then they know "alright, we don't have to match that on the first go round
- Being generally annoying.

Thoughts?
Don't. Whomever makes the first offer is at a disadvantage. By sending competing offers you're essentially making an offer.

Would you ever show your hand in poker before you have to? If so I'd like to get together for a game with a $1,000 buy in.
That explains why they're acceptance e-mail invites us to send in competing offers
I was in the admissions office last week and a girl came in asking if UCLA matches offers and whether she should send them her current offers. They got pretty excited and asked her to please send the info so they could consider it. Bad poker face on their part and bad move on hers if she sent it.
So is the best move to wait until all the schools you are considering send you scholly info and start the negotiations from there?

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by ProductofUnreality » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:15 pm

gryffinclaw wrote:
ProductofUnreality wrote:
oh lawd wrote:
ProductofUnreality wrote:
oh lawd wrote:How do we feel about sending UCLA competing offers before we get the initial offer?

Pros:
- Let's them know financial aide is a major factor AND we are really willing to negotiate hard
- Puts us a step ahead in the process, maybe avoiding the "lowball" phase and skipping straight to the good stuff

Cons:
- Showing them your cards. If they know what USC, etc. offered then they know "alright, we don't have to match that on the first go round
- Being generally annoying.

Thoughts?
Don't. Whomever makes the first offer is at a disadvantage. By sending competing offers you're essentially making an offer.

Would you ever show your hand in poker before you have to? If so I'd like to get together for a game with a $1,000 buy in.
That explains why they're acceptance e-mail invites us to send in competing offers
I was in the admissions office last week and a girl came in asking if UCLA matches offers and whether she should send them her current offers. They got pretty excited and asked her to please send the info so they could consider it. Bad poker face on their part and bad move on hers if she sent it.
So is the best move to wait until all the schools you are considering send you scholly info and start the negotiations from there?
That's what I'd do. I'd at least wait until you have the initial offer from the school you want to negotiate with and one really good offer from a comparable school, preferably in the same market. You want as much leverage as possible before you start.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by worldhunter » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:05 am

Has anyone looked into housing around UCLA? I plan to visit the campus sometime in the next month, but I would appreciate any pointers prior to flying out.

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Post by kitkat12 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:28 pm

worldhunter wrote:Has anyone looked into housing around UCLA? I plan to visit the campus sometime in the next month, but I would appreciate any pointers prior to flying out.
Went to UCLA for undergrad, and the general consensus is that living south of Wilshire is cheaper than living north of Wilshire. South of Wilshire is further away from campus (still pretty close and accessible to campus via the shuttle), and North of Wilshire is closer to campus so people just walk to campus. Just so you know, if you're planning on bringing a car, parking spaces can be quite expensive north of Wilshire-- ~$100/month. Street parking can be annoying, and parking tickets are a common occurrence. Lol and people park on lawns.

You also have surrounding areas to search for housing like Century City, Brentwood/Bel Air (pretty pricey), and Santa Monica/Venice. You could probably get a decently-priced place in Century City. If you decide to live further keep in mind that LA traffic is notoriously bad lol so add a few minutes to your commute!

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by worldhunter » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:28 pm

kitkat12 wrote:
worldhunter wrote:Has anyone looked into housing around UCLA? I plan to visit the campus sometime in the next month, but I would appreciate any pointers prior to flying out.
Went to UCLA for undergrad, and the general consensus is that living south of Wilshire is cheaper than living north of Wilshire. South of Wilshire is further away from campus (still pretty close and accessible to campus via the shuttle), and North of Wilshire is closer to campus so people just walk to campus. Just so you know, if you're planning on bringing a car, parking spaces can be quite expensive north of Wilshire-- ~$100/month. Street parking can be annoying, and parking tickets are a common occurrence. Lol and people park on lawns.

You also have surrounding areas to search for housing like Century City, Brentwood/Bel Air (pretty pricey), and Santa Monica/Venice. You could probably get a decently-priced place in Century City. If you decide to live further keep in mind that LA traffic is notoriously bad lol so add a few minutes to your commute!

Thanks for the great information! I really appreciate the help!

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by ProductofUnreality » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:56 pm

Fucking waitlisted

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Post by urbanist11 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:00 pm

Condolences to the dings and waitlists and fingers crossed to those still waiting.

That said, it's agonizing having something saying "VIEW YOUR FINANCIAL AID AWARD" on MyUCLA for a week and having it not actually display any scholarship info. Hopefully we will hear this month!

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by syncho » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:01 pm

Just got hit with the waitlist. Letter seems nicer than last year at least :(

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Post by calgoldenbear » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:04 pm

syncho wrote:Just got hit with the waitlist. Letter seems nicer than last year at least :(
How did they notify you?

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by shakha » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:10 pm

ProductofUnreality wrote:Fucking waitlisted
:( sorry man, for what it's worth i was really rooting for you!

so scared to check my email now :cry:

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Post by ProductofUnreality » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:13 pm

shakha wrote:
ProductofUnreality wrote:Fucking waitlisted
:( sorry man, for what it's worth i was really rooting for you!

so scared to check my email now :cry:
Thanks. Depending on how the rest of my cycle plays out I might wait it out and try again next year.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by mselbz » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:13 pm

Waitlisted today as well...LSAT 75th and GPA >75th. Stressing about what glaring application mistake I missed.

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Post by mr. nj » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:17 pm

I'm sorry to hear that :(.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by daisrt » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:21 pm

ProductofUnreality wrote:Fucking waitlisted
So so sorry to hear that :(

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Post by davis1994 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:21 pm

When did you guys go complete?

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Post by ProductofUnreality » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:26 pm

daisrt wrote:
ProductofUnreality wrote:Fucking waitlisted
So so sorry to hear that :(
Thanks. Life goes on I guess. I've got a sweet decision between T2 and trying again next year right now.

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Re: UCLA Law c/o 2019 (2015-2016)

Post by clarf » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:32 pm

mselbz wrote:Waitlisted today as well...LSAT 75th and GPA >75th. Stressing about what glaring application mistake I missed.
Could/probably is YP. I wouldn't fret it.

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