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[englawyer]

Any guesstimate as to what the cutoff is for parental income above which one shouldn't expect to receive any financial aid? My parents make enough that I never qualified for aid in undergrad, but I've heard law schools (especially HYS) are more lenient, and now I have two younger siblings in college.

Hmmm. I think it's $150,000 without dependents. Less sure about this, but something like $200,000 with dependents. Keep in mind that this is the maximum. The median parental income is around $90,000 for those receiving grant aid.

Also keep in mind that assets are important, though not as important as income, and that if you'll be 26 or above by 09/01/2012 your parents income will matter less.

i would say its a bit lower. around $100k parental income + around $700k assets (including real estate which is pretty easy to hit for mid-upper middle class) will not get any grant aid.

[jd5]

Thanks. I found some information on the HLS website as well: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... ytype.html.

$180,000 total parental income appears to be the hard cutoff, unless you have siblings in college -- and even then it's unlikely you'll receive any aid.

Ack. HLS at sticker. That's a gross proposition.

[bogm2012]

Any guesstimate as to what the cutoff is for parental income above which one shouldn't expect to receive any financial aid? My parents make enough that I never qualified for aid in undergrad, but I've heard law schools (especially HYS) are more lenient, and now I have two younger siblings in college.

Hmmm. I think it's $150,000 without dependents. Less sure about this, but something like $200,000 with dependents. Keep in mind that this is the maximum. The median parental income is around $90,000 for those receiving grant aid.

Also keep in mind that assets are important, though not as important as income, and that if you'll be 26 or above by 09/01/2012 your parents income will matter less.

i would say its a bit lower. around $100k parental income + around $700k assets (including real estate which is pretty easy to hit for mid-upper middle class) will not get any grant aid.

Disagree with the above from the people I spoke with at ASW (who were fairly candid about parents' incomes), but you won't really know until Harvard gives you their final number.

Here is the website I was drawing my information from: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... ytype.html

It looks like the maximum is $250,000 with siblings in college, though they make it sound like most people in that situation with $180,000+ parental income get zilch.

[englawyer]

Any guesstimate as to what the cutoff is for parental income above which one shouldn't expect to receive any financial aid? My parents make enough that I never qualified for aid in undergrad, but I've heard law schools (especially HYS) are more lenient, and now I have two younger siblings in college.

Hmmm. I think it's $150,000 without dependents. Less sure about this, but something like $200,000 with dependents. Keep in mind that this is the maximum. The median parental income is around $90,000 for those receiving grant aid.

Also keep in mind that assets are important, though not as important as income, and that if you'll be 26 or above by 09/01/2012 your parents income will matter less.

i would say its a bit lower. around $100k parental income + around $700k assets (including real estate which is pretty easy to hit for mid-upper middle class) will not get any grant aid.

Disagree with the above from the people I spoke with at ASW (who were fairly candid about parents' incomes), but you won't really know until Harvard gives you their final number.

Here is the website I was drawing my information from: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... ytype.html

It looks like the maximum is $250,000 with siblings in college, though they make it sound like most people in that situation with $180,000+ parental income get zilch.

depends on your definition of "expect". those were basically my stats 1L and I got $0 grant. its still worth the application in the $100k-$200k income range but i wouldn't go so far as to "expect" grant aid with those numbers.

[jd5]

above which one shouldn't expect to receive any financial aid

[bogm2012]

depends on your definition of "expect". those were basically my stats 1L and I got $0 grant. its still worth the application in the $100k-$200k income range but i wouldn't go so far as to "expect" grant aid with those numbers.

Yes, I guess it does. Harvard gives specific numbers ($150k and $250k, with siblings), and mentions that it is very unlikely that people above those thresholds get grant aid. I tend to think of an expectation as a matter of probability backed by some reasonably solid evidence, and in this case Harvard's website met those conditions.

You seemed to be basing your comment on your own singular experience, which might not be reliable. Also, you said it pretty matter-of-factly ("will not get any grant aid"), which was the reason I disagreed.

[englawyer]

depends on your definition of "expect". those were basically my stats 1L and I got $0 grant. its still worth the application in the $100k-$200k income range but i wouldn't go so far as to "expect" grant aid with those numbers.

Yes, I guess it does. Harvard gives specific numbers ($150k and $250k, with siblings), and mentions that it is very unlikely that people above those thresholds get grant aid. I tend to think of an expectation as a matter of probability backed by some reasonably solid evidence, and in this case Harvard's website met those conditions.

You seemed to be basing your comment on your own singular experience, which might not be reliable. Also, you said it pretty matter-of-factly ("will not get any grant aid"), which was the reason I disagreed.

good point. i should not have worded it so strongly.

[Lovely Ludwig Van]

Stoked to be able to join

[maxpower430]

Stoked to be able to join

+1 I've been longingly looking at this thread for quite some time haha.

[slsorhls]

Anyone here considering stanford? Anyone turn it down?

[heavy]

Hey everybody,

I have been checking my Harvard Law email regularly, and it seems that after a few initial emails and some information about financial aid, I havent received anything else, including information about student groups that others seem have been sent.

Anyone else in the same boat? Any idea why that might be?

Thanks, and congrats again to all the recently admitted

[Curious1]

Hey everybody,

I have been checking my Harvard Law email regularly, and it seems that after a few initial emails and some information about financial aid, I havent received anything else, including information about student groups that others seem have been sent.

Anyone else in the same boat? Any idea why that might be?

Thanks, and congrats again to all the recently admitted

You have to take the post-admissions survey so they know which groups to pair you with.

[captainwasabi09]

Looking at this discussion, it seems I'll have to pay sticker

[crystalized]

It's been two weeks since I got my JS2 but I still haven't received any Admitted Students package. This happen to anyone else?

[beevs]

Is there anyone who knows they cannot make it to ASW, and has had experience visiting on their own? I haven't gotten my package in the mail yet, so I don't know if the AS website says anything about this, but I am wondering if they are more willing to set up an admitted student with a tour of housing or the campus, or any other presentation of information, than they seem to be for purely prospective visitors (tours only available in the fall?).

I'm already really bummed about losing the chance to meet other admitted students, but I also hate missing out on the general information/sales pitch of ASW. I'm able to attend my other main choice's weekend, and I'm worried that the comparative perspective is going to be majorly skewed if I visit Harvard completely unguided.

[tachikara]

It's been two weeks since I got my JS2 but I still haven't received any Admitted Students package. This happen to anyone else?

I got my JS2 around the same time you did, and got my big envelope about a week ago.

Is there anyone who knows they cannot make it to ASW, and has had experience visiting on their own? I haven't gotten my package in the mail yet, so I don't know if the AS website says anything about this, but I am wondering if they are more willing to set up an admitted student with a tour of housing or the campus, or any other presentation of information, than they seem to be for purely prospective visitors (tours only available in the fall?).

I'm already really bummed about losing the chance to meet other admitted students, but I also hate missing out on the general information/sales pitch of ASW. I'm able to attend my other main choice's weekend, and I'm worried that the comparative perspective is going to be majorly skewed if I visit Harvard completely unguided.

From AS Website:

If you cannot attend a formal program, please let us know when you are planning to visit so we may arrange for a student volunteer to take you to a class and on a tour of the school. To ensure your visit is as useful as possible, please contact us at least one week prior to your expected visit.

When you arrive, you will have the opportunity to sit in on a class, and/or meet with representatives from Admissions, Student Financial Services, the Housing Office, the Office of Public Interest Advising, or the Office of Career Services.

[beevs]

Excellent. Thank you!

[jd5]

I have been checking my Harvard Law email regularly, and it seems that after a few initial emails and some information about financial aid, I havent received anything else, including information about student groups that others seem have been sent.

How/where do we check our Harvard email?

[kulshan]

I have been checking my Harvard Law email regularly, and it seems that after a few initial emails and some information about financial aid, I havent received anything else, including information about student groups that others seem have been sent.

How/where do we check our Harvard email?

If you google Harvard Law Email you can find the login page. The login info is in the admissions packet. I immediately set mine up to forward to gmail and set up gmail so that it could send from the HLS server, which I recommend everyone do.

[Blessedassurance]

I have been checking my Harvard Law email regularly, and it seems that after a few initial emails and some information about financial aid, I havent received anything else, including information about student groups that others seem have been sent.

How/where do we check our Harvard email?

https://mymail.law.harvard.edu/

[brownpride]

This may be a stupid question, but where can we find our initial passwords for our Harvard emails?

[splbagel]

Figured out how to get the Harvard mail to forward to my gmail.

Instructions here: --LinkRemoved--

1. Within MyMail click the OPTIONS link in the upper-right corner. Result: This will direct you to your options page.
2. Under "Mail Management" click MAIL PREFERENCES. Result: This will direct you to your mail preferences page.
3. Click MAIL FORWARDING. Result: You will be directed to the mail forwarding section.
4. Select the radio button next to FORWARD MAIL TO: and then type the email address of where you would like your mail sent.
5. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click SAVE. Result: your new mail settings will be saved.

[sailboat]

So HLS just sent an email about how we should be checking our HLS emails regularly.

Think they read TLS much?

[Vaclac]

Checking in

[maxpower430]

This may be a stupid question, but where can we find our initial passwords for our Harvard emails?

It should be in the admissions packet they send. I haven't yet received that packet, but when I got the email from them today reminding us to activate it, I gave the admissions office a call and they hooked me up with all the necessary info.