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StopLawying

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Filling out FAFSA now and unsure whether to include parental info. I know there's no way I qualify for need-based aid, this is solely for loans. Anyone know whether I should include this info or not? I know some schools require parental info for FAFSA, even though you're considered independent. Please dont quote.
- jstans

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Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
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Rigo

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Make a Choosing thread.jstans wrote:Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
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Kaziende

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Whether a certain school is "worth" a certain amount of debt is a subjective, personal valuation depending on factors that can't really be captured by an online calculator, like for example your tolerance for risk. I don't think there is an easy, objective answer in most cases, except at the extremes (CCN for free, Cooley @ sticker, etc)jstans wrote:Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
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Rigo

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U need to retake KaziendeKaziende wrote:Whether a certain school is "worth" a certain amount of debt is a subjective, personal valuation depending on factors that can't really be captured by an online calculator, like for example your tolerance for risk. I don't think there is an easy, objective answer in most cases, except at the extremes (CCN for free, Cooley @ sticker, etc)jstans wrote:Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
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- Kopetz

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+180. Also, there's no good way to "average" outcomes for most schools given that take-home pay can vary radically depending on sector (biglaw/PI/gov/etc,) and differences in market rate salaries and COL across regions. The calculation starts to make more sense if you have a specific occupational goal in mind: your debt tolerance will be higher if you're 100% committed to NY/DC biglaw than if you're planning to become a public defender or work at a small family firm outside a major market.Kaziende wrote:Whether a certain school is "worth" a certain amount of debt is a subjective, personal valuation depending on factors that can't really be captured by an online calculator, like for example your tolerance for risk. I don't think there is an easy, objective answer in most cases, except at the extremes (CCN for free, Cooley @ sticker, etc)jstans wrote:Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
- jstans

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That's true. I'm pretty sure I want to do biglaw so that should help me narrow down the math. I'm making an excel file to help me see this decision more clearly where I can create an index score for a lot of given variables to make a more abstract value quantifier. I'll post that file as a template for whoever wants it once I can get all the kinks worked out if anyone wants that. I guess this is what happens when the world of finance gets boring and takes a backseat to law school goals, data has taken on a whole new meaning to me.Kopetz wrote:+180. Also, there's no good way to "average" outcomes for most schools given that take-home pay can vary radically depending on sector (biglaw/PI/gov/etc,) and differences in market rate salaries and COL across regions. The calculation starts to make more sense if you have a specific occupational goal in mind: your debt tolerance will be higher if you're 100% committed to NY/DC biglaw than if you're planning to become a public defender or work at a small family firm outside a major market.Kaziende wrote:Whether a certain school is "worth" a certain amount of debt is a subjective, personal valuation depending on factors that can't really be captured by an online calculator, like for example your tolerance for risk. I don't think there is an easy, objective answer in most cases, except at the extremes (CCN for free, Cooley @ sticker, etc)jstans wrote:Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
EDIT: I can upload it as a template if anyone wants their brain to run in circles while looking at a file that may or may not help anyone with any decision.
- R. Jeeves

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id be interested in this filejstans wrote:That's true. I'm pretty sure I want to do biglaw so that should help me narrow down the math. I'm making an excel file to help me see this decision more clearly where I can create an index score for a lot of given variables to make a more abstract value quantifier. I'll post that file as a template for whoever wants it once I can get all the kinks worked out if anyone wants that. I guess this is what happens when the world of finance gets boring and takes a backseat to law school goals, data has taken on a whole new meaning to me.
EDIT: I can upload it as a template if anyone wants their brain to run in circles while looking at a file that may or may not help anyone with any decision.
- Bob loblaw law blog

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+1R. Jeeves wrote:id be interested in this filejstans wrote:That's true. I'm pretty sure I want to do biglaw so that should help me narrow down the math. I'm making an excel file to help me see this decision more clearly where I can create an index score for a lot of given variables to make a more abstract value quantifier. I'll post that file as a template for whoever wants it once I can get all the kinks worked out if anyone wants that. I guess this is what happens when the world of finance gets boring and takes a backseat to law school goals, data has taken on a whole new meaning to me.
EDIT: I can upload it as a template if anyone wants their brain to run in circles while looking at a file that may or may not help anyone with any decision.
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Kaziende

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<3Rigo wrote:U need to retake Kaziende
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curry1

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TTTs are ramping up efforts in the leadup to March pseudo-deadlines. Annoying amount of e-mail volume from random law schools.
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The constant moving of deadlines always seems so desperate.curry1 wrote:TTTs are ramping up efforts in the leadup to March pseudo-deadlines. Annoying amount of e-mail volume from random law schools.
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- Mr_Chukes

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Yup! has anyone else had any schools call them and ask them to apply?jjcorvino wrote:The constant moving of deadlines always seems so desperate.curry1 wrote:TTTs are ramping up efforts in the leadup to March pseudo-deadlines. Annoying amount of e-mail volume from random law schools.
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gizmo1024

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Got a call from Liberty last week. I didn't answer, but I looked up the number. Their number is listed as spam on Google- so sad.Mr_Chukes wrote:Yup! has anyone else had any schools call them and ask them to apply?jjcorvino wrote:The constant moving of deadlines always seems so desperate.curry1 wrote:TTTs are ramping up efforts in the leadup to March pseudo-deadlines. Annoying amount of e-mail volume from random law schools.
- ashrice13

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I don't understand the goal. Do they think we are playing some sort of admissions chicken game with them?
"I won't apply for your very special scholarship until I receive 11 emails about it and you push back the deadline."
"I won't apply for your very special scholarship until I receive 11 emails about it and you push back the deadline."
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No voicemails but I typically don't answer phone numbers but I don't know so not sure if they're calling but not leaving a message. Now that you mention it though, I have noticed an uptick in random numbers calling me lately.Mr_Chukes wrote:Yup! has anyone else had any schools call them and ask them to apply?jjcorvino wrote:The constant moving of deadlines always seems so desperate.curry1 wrote:TTTs are ramping up efforts in the leadup to March pseudo-deadlines. Annoying amount of e-mail volume from random law schools.
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- Mr_Chukes

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Yup exactly that it does not make it more appealing. I actually do pick up calls because I am waiting on some schools, but yea I got a call from Trinity Law school urging me to apply because I would get a full ride lol.ashrice13 wrote:I don't understand the goal. Do they think we are playing some sort of admissions chicken game with them?
"I won't apply for your very special scholarship until I receive 11 emails about it and you push back the deadline."
- jjcorvino

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I got a call from Cardozo law (I think, or maybe Charleston? It was a C name). They asked if I wanted to hear more about the school and asked if I planned to apply. I politely declined.gizmo1024 wrote:Got a call from Liberty last week. I didn't answer, but I looked up the number. Their number is listed as spam on Google- so sad.Mr_Chukes wrote:Yup! has anyone else had any schools call them and ask them to apply?jjcorvino wrote:The constant moving of deadlines always seems so desperate.curry1 wrote:TTTs are ramping up efforts in the leadup to March pseudo-deadlines. Annoying amount of e-mail volume from random law schools.
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Pozzo

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- Shakawkaw

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This.Rigo wrote:U need to retake KaziendeKaziende wrote:Whether a certain school is "worth" a certain amount of debt is a subjective, personal valuation depending on factors that can't really be captured by an online calculator, like for example your tolerance for risk. I don't think there is an easy, objective answer in most cases, except at the extremes (CCN for free, Cooley @ sticker, etc)jstans wrote:Are there any online tools that can tell you how much debt is too much for a given law school? Like some sort of calculator that takes employment outcomes, salaries, degree portability, etc. into account with your personal funds to tell you what the value of a certain law school is? I've been struggling with my analysis of debt numbers and want to find a simple, dumbed-down way to tell if a given law school is worth the debt. My current #1 choice would set me back a good amount of future income and that has triggered the financial anxiety within me. Looking for something beyond mere debt calculation that could actually assign some abstract quantifier of value to schools.
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curry1

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I just got a solicitation e-mail from GULC ... this is sad TTT behavior.
- shotgunheist

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Finally an acceptance after a 4 week dead period lol
- Mr_Chukes

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What school?shotgunheist wrote:Finally an acceptance after a 4 week dead period lol
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FordhamMr_Chukes wrote:What school?shotgunheist wrote:Finally an acceptance after a 4 week dead period lol
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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