WUSTL c/o 2018 Applicants Forum

[Joscellin]

Looks like I'm late to the party, but section C here (Contracts/DeGeest, Crim/Osgood, Torts/Norwood). Yay for dodging the Civ Pro bullet the first semester.

I find it interesting that they held off on giving anyone Con Law until the spring, is that typical?

Some people have mentioned things about DeGeest and Osgood in thread, but can anyone provide some thoughts on Norwood?

[sublime]

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[Zombie]

By the way, I talked with an admission officer today and gathered that there will be roughly 200 students this year. This is significantly lower than the 270 last year. Any thoughts on this?

[eriedoctrine]

By the way, I talked with an admission officer today and gathered that there will be roughly 200 students this year. This is significantly lower than the 270 last year. Any thoughts on this?

Good move?

[LET'S GET IT]

By the way, I talked with an admission officer today and gathered that there will be roughly 200 students this year. This is significantly lower than the 270 last year. Any thoughts on this?

Good move?

Definitely. Less people to compete against for screeners.

[Zombie]

By the way, I talked with an admission officer today and gathered that there will be roughly 200 students this year. This is significantly lower than the 270 last year. Any thoughts on this?

Good move?

Definitely. Less people to compete against for screeners.

Would the shrinking of the class have some effect on the curve/class ranking? It seems that with a smaller class size fewer students will be at the top.

[LET'S GET IT]

By the way, I talked with an admission officer today and gathered that there will be roughly 200 students this year. This is significantly lower than the 270 last year. Any thoughts on this?

Good move?

Definitely. Less people to compete against for screeners.

Would the shrinking of the class have some effect on the curve/class ranking? It seems that with a smaller class size fewer students will be at the top.

Well sure our class had 27 people in the top 10% and your class will have 20, but that is less important IMO. The same number of employers will come to OCI give or take, and they all interview a standardized amount of people. So people farther down in the class will at least get screeners. Once you get a screener, you are on a sliding scale. The better your grades, the less impressive you need to be in the interview. The worse your grades, the more impressive you need to be. But since our OCI is 100% pre-select, it can never be a bad thing to get more interviews.

[Zombie]

By the way, I talked with an admission officer today and gathered that there will be roughly 200 students this year. This is significantly lower than the 270 last year. Any thoughts on this?

Good move?

Definitely. Less people to compete against for screeners.

Would the shrinking of the class have some effect on the curve/class ranking? It seems that with a smaller class size fewer students will be at the top.

Well sure our class had 27 people in the top 10% and your class will have 20, but that is less important IMO. The same number of employers will come to OCI give or take, and they all interview a standardized amount of people. So people farther down in the class will at least get screeners. Once you get a screener, you are on a sliding scale. The better your grades, the less impressive you need to be in the interview. The worse your grades, the more impressive you need to be. But since our OCI is 100% pre-select, it can never be a bad thing to get more interviews.

Thanks for your input LGI! This is great to hear.

[chuckbass]

Yeah a smaller class size will only benefit you

[AceDeuces]

Yeah a smaller class size will only benefit you

Agreed. the large class size is really a problem IMO. They were not ready for it; it was likely part of the reason there was so much competition/bad blood, and I even think it has affected OCI results and it definitely is a reason a bunch of people are transferring.

[lososos]

Yeah a smaller class size will only benefit you

Agreed. the large class size is really a problem IMO. They were not ready for it; it was likely part of the reason there was so much competition/bad blood, and I even think it has affected OCI results and it definitely is a reason a bunch of people are transferring.

+1. Personally hoping (though of course it won't happen) that through transfers/etc we have a net loss of 70 students

[Fiero85]

Yeah a smaller class size will only benefit you

Agreed. the large class size is really a problem IMO. They were not ready for it; it was likely part of the reason there was so much competition/bad blood, and I even think it has affected OCI results and it definitely is a reason a bunch of people are transferring.

+1. Personally hoping (though of course it won't happen) that through transfers/etc we have a net loss of 70270 students

^plot twist.

Admin to members of the mass exodus:

"Dear [student],

Congratulations on your achievements in your first year at Wash U Law. We are pleased to inform you that you have been selected for our new Roanoke Scholars program. In this program we offer full tuition reimbursement scholarships to any law school you would like to transfer to, or a lump sum of matching value to drop out entirely.

We underestimated how badly this Class of 2017 could tarnish each other and the school. We have witnessed and heard of gunnerisms that no administration, even at a Top 18 Law School®, could have foreseen. We think it would be best for everyone if you all left. We are excited to make a fresh start with the Class of 2018.

Sincerely,

Admin"

[chuckbass]

Fiero killing it as usual

And as of now my tally of committed defectors is in the 20's so I still stand by my prediction of 40-50. However, WUSTL takes what, like 50ish transfers in?

[lososos]

Fiero killing it as usual

And as of now my tally of committed defectors is in the 20's so I still stand by my prediction of 40-50. However, WUSTL takes what, like 50ish transfers in?

Shhh... If we pretend it won't happen, it TOTALLY won't

[chuckbass]

Fiero killing it as usual

And as of now my tally of committed defectors is in the 20's so I still stand by my prediction of 40-50. However, WUSTL takes what, like 50ish transfers in?

Shhh... If we pretend it won't happen, it TOTALLY won't

I mean fwiw I don't think the transfers are taking ANY preselects from anyone, which is good. But since most people at WUSTL don't get their jobs through OCI I guess it still does unfortunately increase the amount of competition in the job market.

[lososos]

Yeah I know it's not like that much added competition job-wise. I just think our class's 1L experience indicated that such a large class doesn't benefit the students at all. It just leads to more competitive behavior in class, people not getting classes they want/need, more job competition to begin with, etc.

[TetrisBlock]

How large are sections? Do they vary from year to year in size or do they just increase/decrease the number of sections?

edit: I just got los osos' username.

[chingwoo]

Fiero killing it as usual

And as of now my tally of committed defectors is in the 20's so I still stand by my prediction of 40-50. However, WUSTL takes what, like 50ish transfers in?

Shhh... If we pretend it won't happen, it TOTALLY won't

I mean fwiw I don't think the transfers are taking ANY preselects from anyone, which is good. But since most people at WUSTL don't get their jobs through OCI I guess it still does unfortunately increase the amount of competition in the job market.

Whats OCI?

[lososos]

How large are sections? Do they vary from year to year in size or do they just increase/decrease the number of sections?

edit: I just got los osos' username.

is there something to get? (the answer is probably, and I haven't even gotten it myself)

re: sections, I think they stay around the same size and the number of sections varies, but I'm not positive about that. mine was 30 ish people, which I think is pretty standard.

[LET'S GET IT]

How large are sections? Do they vary from year to year in size or do they just increase/decrease the number of sections?

edit: I just got los osos' username.

is there something to get? (the answer is probably, and I haven't even gotten it myself)

re: sections, I think they stay around the same size and the number of sections varies, but I'm not positive about that. mine was 30 ish people, which I think is pretty standard.

Your's was 30ish? Are you a 3L?

Lol top 18 law school.

Also lososos, what has the admin done to make you think they care anything about the benefit of the student? I must have missed that.

#randomthoughts

[lososos]

How large are sections? Do they vary from year to year in size or do they just increase/decrease the number of sections?

edit: I just got los osos' username.

is there something to get? (the answer is probably, and I haven't even gotten it myself)

re: sections, I think they stay around the same size and the number of sections varies, but I'm not positive about that. mine was 30 ish people, which I think is pretty standard.

Your's was 30ish? Are you a 3L?

Lol top 18 law school.

Also lososos, what has the admin done to make you think they care anything about the benefit of the student? I must have missed them.

nah rising 2L. maybe I'm forgetting some people or miscounting haha, though I think 30-40 is reasonable. how many were in your section?

and lol okay fair, basically nothing. personal interaction at least with my own CSO and another CSO employee, and a couple profs, are about it in that regard. def nothing from admin itself.

[LET'S GET IT]

I think our section was ~45. But yeah they should be smaller this year.

Also I concur the profs are mostly great and very helpful.

[Joscellin]

From what I saw, sections are about 33-35.

[chuckbass]

I think our section was ~45. But yeah they should be smaller this year.

Also I concur the profs are mostly great and very helpful.

Yeah lol our sections were def ~45 (45 x 6 sections = 270 students) and it looks like there's going to be a section F again, so that would mean to keep the class size the supposedly targeted ~200, then they would be around ~35 people each.

[LET'S GET IT]

From what I saw, sections are about 33-35.

Are you going by a class you sat in on? Because people skip class.