Brooklyn 09/10 cycle Forum

[Rebecca2013]

Has anyone heard from them in the past few days? The lady on the phone is so rude. For the past month each time I have called she says my file is with the admissions committee.

[keg411]

Has anyone gotten in off the WL yet?

I was WL -> Admit several months ago.

[knickfan]

Has anyone heard from them in the past few days? The lady on the phone is so rude. For the past month each time I have called she says my file is with the admissions committee.

lol i think we have about 2 pages worth of hate for her..don't worry, your not alone

[cityglamorous]

Applied to Brooklyn Law. 154/3.56/URM what are my chances of acceptance?

[sibley]

Does anyone have Brooklyn's hiring stats?

[Steve Zissou]

Does anyone have Brooklyn's hiring stats?

Get really good grades and...
Law School Reports Over 20% of Class of 2009 Hired by the Nation's Top 250 Firms
PDF: View list of Class of 2009 placements at top firms.

All BLS 2009 stats. (Bi-modal distributions ahead...)

Edit:
Also go to NALP to see who was interviewing on campus. (Advanced search, select all types of employers at the top, then Brooklyn, then hit search button.)

[sophistry]

Does anyone have Brooklyn's hiring stats?

Get really good grades and...
Law School Reports Over 20% of Class of 2009 Hired by the Nation's Top 250 Firms
PDF: View list of Class of 2009 placements at top firms.

All BLS 2009 stats. (Bi-modal distributions ahead...)

The graduating students I talked with said that private sector jobs--for those who could find jobs--generally pay around $75k. The career adviser during one of the Insider's Guides suggested that we should expect the $65,000-$138,000 range, depending on our legwork and grades.

[sibley]

anyone have any links NOT posted by the school?

[Mr. Pablo]

anyone have any links NOT posted by the school?

I doubt anyone but BLS is compiling and publishing employment info about BLS. I think the best way to get real employment information relevant to your interests is to look up those employers you are interested in and see if there is any BLS representation in last year, or at all. I'm not trying to be down on the school, I'm attending in the fall, but if you don't have some significant money offer or o you have better options, I would take them.

[howardsbest]

I just received my waitlist letter on Monday (PT program). I will be turning in a LOCI and 1 or 2 more LORs. Anyone else turning in anything other than this?

[sophistry]

anyone have any links NOT posted by the school?

I doubt anyone but BLS is compiling and publishing employment info about BLS. I think the best way to get real employment information relevant to your interests is to look up those employers you are interested in and see if there is any BLS representation in last year, or at all. I'm not trying to be down on the school, I'm attending in the fall, but if you don't have some significant money offer or o you have better options, I would take them.

I agree with Pablo. I have a hard time believing any of the employment stats I read because I'm convinced the numbers are always fudged. Though you might be able to check NALP, since I believe they compile employer-reported data, which would likely be more honest. However, I admit I'm generally ignorant about NALP and haven't done as much research as I should have.

If I'm remembering correctly, you're deciding between BLS full ride or GW sticker? GW is going to have much better overall employment stats, and you know that. But if you want to practice in NYC and are debt averse, then BLS might be worth it (which you also know). If I were you, I'd think about where you want to work, if you'd still be happy graduating from school X at the median, and how debt averse you are, in that order. That being said, if you find any good non-BLS-reported employment stats, I'd love to see them.

[sophistry]

I just received my waitlist letter on Monday (PT program). I will be turning in a LOCI and 1 or 2 more LORs. Anyone else turning in anything other than this?

If you live reasonably close, I'd suggest making an appointment with the Dean or Assistant Dean of admissions. Putting a face to your application would likely be a great help, assuming you have decent interview skills. Otherwise, a LOCI and one LOR should be enough.

[sibley]

anyone have any links NOT posted by the school?

I doubt anyone but BLS is compiling and publishing employment info about BLS. I think the best way to get real employment information relevant to your interests is to look up those employers you are interested in and see if there is any BLS representation in last year, or at all. I'm not trying to be down on the school, I'm attending in the fall, but if you don't have some significant money offer or o you have better options, I would take them.

I agree with Pablo. I have a hard time believing any of the employment stats I read because I'm convinced the numbers are always fudged. Though you might be able to check NALP, since I believe they compile employer-reported data, which would likely be more honest. However, I admit I'm generally ignorant about NALP and haven't done as much research as I should have.

If I'm remembering correctly, you're deciding between BLS full ride or GW sticker? GW is going to have much better overall employment stats, and you know that. But if you want to practice in NYC and are debt averse, then BLS might be worth it (which you also know). If I were you, I'd think about where you want to work, if you'd still be happy graduating from school X at the median, and how debt averse you are, in that order. That being said, if you find any good non-BLS-reported employment stats, I'd love to see them.

Right, BLS full ride+ and GW sticker but with 15k need based. Both are very luring... one... free. the other... national rep (at least where I live now everyone thinks it's an awesome school...)

[sophistry]

Right, BLS full ride+ and GW sticker but with 15k need based. Both are very luring... one... free. the other... national rep (at least where I live now everyone thinks it's an awesome school...)

Full disclosure: GW was one of my top choices, but I was rejected. I'm excited about BLS, however. You can't really lose with those choices. If you like DC/Gov't jobs or IP, I'd definitely recommend GW. Otherwise.... coin flip?

[Steve Zissou]

BLS with $$$ vs GW with $... Can't say I envy your position. That seems like a difficult choice. It's probably going to boil down to where you'd prefer to live/practice.

And check NALP for non-BLS-generated information. http://www.nalpdirectory.com/

I'll save you some time and show you the NYC and DC offices that listed Brooklyn campus interviews (NOTE: Some firms interview BLS students but they don't show up on this list because they didn't provide NALP with a list of the schools they interview at [for example, look up Skaaden on the NALP site, you'll see no schools listed... I'm pretty sure they interview at BLS if they were hosting a BLS admissions event a couple months ago]):

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Allen & Overy (US Practice)     	            New York	NY
Amster, Rothstein & Ebenstein LLP       	    New York	NY
Arnold & Porter LLP                         	New York	NY
Baker & McKenzie LLP	                        New York	NY
BINGHAM McCUTCHEN LLP	                       NEW YORK	NY
[url=https://www.lawcrossing.com/lawfirmprofile/K7CYG/Blank-Rome-LLP/]blank rome llp[/url]	                              NEW YORK	NY
BRACEWELL & GIULIANI LLP -                     New York	NY
BRONX COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE	     Bronx	NY
[url=https://www.lawcrossing.com/lawfirmprofile/KKBXk/Brown-Rudnick-LLP/]brown rudnick llp[/url]	                           NEW YORK	NY
BRYAN CAVE LLP - NEW YORK	                   New York	NY
BRYAN CAVE LLP - WASHINGTON, DC	             Washington	DC
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP 	          New York	NY
CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL LLP	                 NEW YORK	NY
Carter Ledyard & Milburn LLP	                New York	NY
Chadbourne & Parke LLP	                      New York	NY
CLEARY GOTTLIEB STEEN & HAMILTON LLP -         NEW YORK	NY
COOPER & DUNHAM LLP	                         New York	NY
Court of Appeals 2nd Circuit, Staff Attorneys' Office	New York	NY
DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL LLP - NEW YORK	        New York	NY
[url=https://www.bcgsearch.com/bestlawfirms/K7x7t/Cullen-and-Dykman-LLP/rankings]cullen and dykman llp[/url]	                       Brooklyn Heights	NY
[url=https://www.lawcrossing.com/lawfirmprofile/K7PV3/Day-Pitney-LLP/]day pitney llp[/url]	                              New York	NY
[url=https://www.lawcrossing.com/lawfirmprofile/K7PV3/Day-Pitney-LLP/]day pitney llp[/url]	                              Washington	DC
Debevoise & Plimpton LLP	                    New York	NY
FITZPATRICK, CELLA, HARPER & SCINTO	         NEW YORK	NY
Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy, LLP	     New York	NY
FRIED, FRANK, HARRIS, SHRIVER & JACOBSON LLP	New York	NY
FROMMER LAWRENCE & HAUG LLP	                 New York	NY
Hahn & Hessen LLP	                           New York	NY
Herrick, Feinstein LLP	                      New York	NY
[url=https://www.bcgsearch.com/bestlawfirms/KK7l1/Hodgson-Russ-LLP/rankings]hodgson russ llp[/url]	                            New York	NY
Hogan & Hartson LLP                            New York	NY
Kilpatrick Stockton LLP	                     New York	NY
Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP	         New York	NY
Lovells LLP	                                 New York	NY
McDermott Will & Emery LLP - NY	             New York	NY
Moses & Singer LLP	                          New York	NY
Mound Cotton Wollan & Greengrass	            New York	NY
New York City Law Department	                New York	NY
NEW YORK COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE	  New York	NY
O'Melveny & Myers LLP - NEW YORK            	New York	NY
Otterbourg, Steindler, Houston & Rosen, P.C.	New York	NY
Patton Boggs LLP	                            Washington	DC
Patton Boggs LLP	                            New York	NY
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP	New York	NY
Proskauer	                                   New York	NY
Ropes & Gray LLP	                            Washington	DC
Ropes & Gray LLP	                            New York	NY
Satterlee Stephens Burke & Burke LLP           New York	NY
Seward & Kissel LLP	                         New York	NY
Simpson Thacher & [url=https://www.bcgsearch.com/bestlawfirms/K7Cff/Bartlett-LLP/rankings]bartlett llp[/url] --              New York	NY
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP	               New York	NY
[url=https://www.lawcrossing.com/article/900006378/Venable-LLP/]venable llp[/url] -                                  New York, NY	
[url=https://www.lawcrossing.com/article/900006378/Venable-LLP/]venable llp[/url] -                                  Washington, D.C.	
WINSTON & STRAWN LLP	                        New York	NY

Vault.com might have school employment info from the firms, but you'll have to pay $15?+ for it.

[howardsbest]

I just received my waitlist letter on Monday (PT program). I will be turning in a LOCI and 1 or 2 more LORs. Anyone else turning in anything other than this?

If you live reasonably close, I'd suggest making an appointment with the Dean or Assistant Dean of admissions. Putting a face to your application would likely be a great help, assuming you have decent interview skills. Otherwise, a LOCI and one LOR should be enough.

Thank you that is very helpful.

[fakemoney]

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[Rebecca2013]

I was accepted to the PT program back at the end of April. They accepted me like two minutes after my app went complete (which I sent ridiculously late), yet offered no scholarship money. I paid a seat deposit, but really doubt that I'm going to make a 2nd deposit. At this point I'm just gauging whether I have the stomach for yet another (3rd) LS cycle, plus waiting on a F/T application to Seton Hall to see if they offer me an acceptance with $.

Wow that's quick- I've been waiting to hear back from the PT program- what are your numbers?

[krzyreeesh]

Anyone else going to the Insider's Guide to Brooklyn event tomorrow?

[fakemoney]

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[knickfan]

Anyone else going to the Insider's Guide to Brooklyn event tomorrow?

Im not going either...I probably should though..I want to but no time

Please let us know how it goes...What did you guys do? Was it worth going?

[sibley]

Anyone else going to the Insider's Guide to Brooklyn event tomorrow?

Im not going either...I probably should though..I want to but no time

Please let us know how it goes...What did you guys do? Was it worth going?

yeah I want an update too please. the dean gave me to tomorrow to decide. I couldn't get off work to drive the 6 hours to nyc and just moved this weekend too so it didn't really work out but I'd like to get an idea of the atmosphere and your perceptions.

[sophistry]

Anyone else going to the Insider's Guide to Brooklyn event tomorrow?

Im not going either...I probably should though..I want to but no time

Please let us know how it goes...What did you guys do? Was it worth going?

I went and thought it was useful. If you are 100% going to BLS, I suppose you could probably skip it. I'm sure they'll go over all the best stuff during orientation. If you are undecided, I'd say attending is a must. A first hand experience of the place you'll be spending all your time for three years is incredibly important.

[SaraT]

Hey guys, I would love your advice on my situation. I've been accepted to BLS with a full ride and Fordham with 22,000. Which do you think is the better choice if I want to do biglaw and stay in NYC?

[sophistry]

Hey guys, I would love your advice on my situation. I've been accepted to BLS with a full ride and Fordham with 22,000. Which do you think is the better choice if I want to do biglaw and stay in NYC?

Hi Sara. Try posting this in the Choosing a Law School forum. You'll likely get biased responses here.