Reverse-Splitters Unite! - The 2010 Reverse-Splitter Thread Forum

[rondemarino]

I'm glad to see that I am not the only one in this situation. After many years off from earning a BA and an MA and teaching for 7 years, I decided on a whim to finally fufill my dream of going to law school. So, I guess you'd conider me a non-traditional applicant and I qualify as an URM. I have a 3.8 GPA undergrad, 4.0 GPA graduate, but a 152 LSAT. That was me going in cold, as I have no money for a prep course and sadly my time is kind of limited to due to my current job. I'm sure I'll get into the T4s in my area, but are there any Top 100s that I should consider?

Given huge disparity in long run outcomes between T4s and much better schools, you are making a terrible mistake by going to law school after only taking the LSAT cold. A few years after graduation, you are really going to regret that you only had limited time in 2009 to prepare for the LSAT. Don't waste the stellar GPA.

Do you think that I can possibly overcome the low LSAT and prep in time for December? My issue with September is that a) I was rattled by the poorly organized test center and b) I never finished each section as I ran out of time.

I have no idea. My point is that blowing $100k on an education where you didn't prepare for the single most important part of your application would be a tragedy. I'm not the best person for test prep advice. Took me a couple of tries to get my desired score.

[ViP]

I'm glad to see that I am not the only one in this situation. After many years off from earning a BA and an MA and teaching for 7 years, I decided on a whim to finally fufill my dream of going to law school. So, I guess you'd conider me a non-traditional applicant and I qualify as an URM. I have a 3.8 GPA undergrad, 4.0 GPA graduate, but a 152 LSAT. That was me going in cold, as I have no money for a prep course and sadly my time is kind of limited to due to my current job. I'm sure I'll get into the T4s in my area, but are there any Top 100s that I should consider?

Given huge disparity in long run outcomes between T4s and much better schools, you are making a terrible mistake by going to law school after only taking the LSAT cold. A few years after graduation, you are really going to regret that you only had limited time in 2009 to prepare for the LSAT. Don't waste the stellar GPA.

+a million

You took the test cold. Study a bit and re-take. Your list of schools will look drastically different, as will your future.

[JMBrown32]

3.75/158

I went into the GMAT cold and scored around the 90th percentile. Assumed I could do the same for the LSAT and it didn't work out so well. Probably going to retake in December. Hoping to get into Florida State or Florida.

[ViP]

3.75/158

I went into the GMAT cold and scored around the 90th percentile. Assumed I could do the same for the LSAT and it didn't work out so well. Probably going to retake in December. Hoping to get into Florida State or Florida.

If you really went into the LSAT totally cold, you should be very happy. A 158 is a very strong score for someone that hasn't studied the LSAT material. It indicates that you already have a grasp of the gist of the test.

Study the material and re-take. You'll score much higher and you'll land at a school far, far more prestigious than either Florida State or Florida.

PS- the GMAT is a dull memorization test. Your cold 158 on the LSAT is far more impressive to me than your cold 90th % on the GMAT.

[JMBrown32]

3.75/158

I went into the GMAT cold and scored around the 90th percentile. Assumed I could do the same for the LSAT and it didn't work out so well. Probably going to retake in December. Hoping to get into Florida State or Florida.

If you really went into the LSAT totally cold, you should be very happy. A 158 is a very strong score for someone that hasn't studied the LSAT material. It indicates that you already have a grasp of the gist of the test.

Study the material and re-take. You'll score much higher and you'll land at a school far, far more prestigious than either Florida State or Florida.

PS- the GMAT is a dull memorization test. Your cold 158 on the LSAT is far more impressive to me than your cold 90th % on the GMAT.

Well I was somewhat familiar with the test. I knew the general sections and knew the LR and RC sections were similar to some of the stuff on the GMAT. I tried a few games prior to taking the test, but had never done a PT, timed or otherwise. Not sure if that really counts as cold.

As it is, I've registered for the December test and acquired all the requisite study materials (as many official PTs as I could get my hands on and the PS Bibles), and am hoping for the best the second time around.

[solotee]

I probably don't qualify according to the constraints ITT, but I'm 3.9/165. Anybody that thinks there is a cap on the LSAT according to their own abilities are right. But, that cap doesn't have to stop in the 150's. Seriously, if I could improve on this exam, anybody can. I don't consider myself intelligent or anything and I know it was only through hard work that I got that score.

The LSAT is a monster, but it's worth taming considering that the score will affect where you go and ultimately, the rest of your life.

(diagnostic; 147. Took it a year later; 147. Studied 4 months; 165)

[jennylynn]

My low LSAT definitely didn't keep me from getting into the schools I wanted. Granted, I wasn't shooting for the stars. But I had a target school and hit it. You just have to be realistic. I would say the only thing that the LSAT hurt me on was getting a scholarship.
All this to say...you can do it! Reverse splitters unite!

[mizzoutigers88]

161/3.9

Wash U., Mizzou, W&L, W&M, GWU and UIUC

Wish me luck

[ozarkhack]

more of a shitty applicant.

This is me. At 160/3.72, I can't even apply to this thread.

That's 81st percentile in both cases, I believe. Let's hear it for the C-plusses/B-minuses of the world! Totally gonna take the legal profession by light drizzle and brisk winds!

+1 for Davis and Hastings. Colorado leads my non-CA hopes. I have lots of wasted app fees (e.g. Berkeley, Vandy, Emory). I feel pretty limber these days, what with all the stretching.

Good luck all.

[socalren]

I belong here 161 and 3.86 UGPA and I'm applying to California schools

Like goinggoinggone I'm expecting waitlist city... but I can't help but have a little optimism for my softs

*fingers crossed*

[ViP]

Any news from reverse-splitters yet? Acceptances, rejections, waitlists?

The only schools that I've heard nothing from are Loyola (LA) and GW. The rest of my schools have at least sent an email. I sent my apps on Nov. 6th, btw.

[nickc8]

Any news from reverse-splitters yet? Acceptances, rejections, waitlists?

The only schools that I've heard nothing from are Loyola (LA) and GW. The rest of my schools have at least sent an email. I sent my apps on Nov. 6th, btw.

I have not heard a peep from Case Western. Of the remaining 17 schools (yes, a very LARGE net), I am complete at 14. The remaining I have received an email but nothing more. I sent apps out the third week of October.

I wish one would at least give me a decision already!

[newsjunkie]

157/3.75/strong WE + softs

no decisions yet. the schools i've applied to are listed under my profile. i have status checkers for most schools and my file is "under review" right now at Samford and UGA. i was called by UA and encouraged to retake the LSAT -- i am, but will not be able to do so until Feb. so i have holds on UA, Emory, Duke, UVA and Vandy until then (prolonging my probable rejection ).

[solotee]

3.9/165

In at UGA.

Complete everywhere else except for UNC.

[MBZags]

3.88/163

I'm in at Washington and Lee so far, but most of the schools I applied to are holding my apps since I'm registered for the December LSAT.

[socalren]

In at University of San Diego, complete everywhere I've applied except UC Irvine (I do have confirmation of submission). Deciding whether or not to broaden my net...

[am10]

158/3.87

In at Marquette, WL at Notre Dame. I'm retaking the LSAT in February and hoping to ditch the reverse-splitter status.

[gatorlion]

4.0/158
2 Master's degrees, research, publications, good short-term work experience

First diagnostic (2006): 156
PT range during Blueprint (2009): 162-167
Sep LSAT (2009): 158

Retaking.

[socalren]

I'm in at both my target school: USD and back-up: Chapman... getting anxious for the reach and far reaches...

Dear Schools,
Please look beyond my LSAT score.
Thanks.
Ren

[snickersnicker]

Any news from reverse-splitters yet? Acceptances, rejections, waitlists?

Yup. In at Michigan yesterday, 166/3.99. Cycle's over.

[Legacy316]

Any news from reverse-splitters yet? Acceptances, rejections, waitlists?

Yup. In at Michigan yesterday, 166/3.99. Cycle's over.

That's awesome man, way to go!

[MC Southstar]

Reverse splitters have cooties.

[nyskidude]

163/3.84. Cycle has gone well thus far. I was accepted at U Iowa and Ohio State, so I'm pretty happy. If I can pull off a Vandy, or a Georgetown, or even a Michigan or Berkeley, I will be sooo estatic.

[bighead715]

Any news from reverse-splitters yet? Acceptances, rejections, waitlists?

Yup. In at Michigan yesterday, 166/3.99. Cycle's over.

me too - 164/3.98

reverse splitters can hit the T10 despite the trolls that say only 170s can...

[rondemarino]

Any news from reverse-splitters yet? Acceptances, rejections, waitlists?

Yup. In at Michigan yesterday, 166/3.99. Cycle's over.

me too - 164/3.98

reverse splitters can hit the T10 despite the trolls that say only 170s can...

Dude, absolutely no one says this, or at least believes this. Over half the students enrolled at Duke, Michigan and Berkeley have scores below 170. With a high GPA, you always had a shot (sealed with ED), and I doubt anyone who isn't an idiot thinks otherwise. You're in a Michigan. Enjoy it.

Congrats, BTW.

p.s: The T14 is enough of an artificial construct, but we also have have HYS and the T6. The T10 now?