This is really interesting. Care to elaborate on this?Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Anecdotal: I didn't write any in 2014 because I had 3.75 173 and I thought "numbers rule all". I got WL basically every where in T14. There were probably many issues with my packet, but I'm sure zero supplemental essays didn't help.RamTitan wrote:I initially read on TLS that it doesn't matter, that numbers rule all, etc. But I'm going to err on caution and write one lmao
I will be writing many Why X's this cycle
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Sure. I mean I honestly don't really know what went wrong, so I'm assuming everything that could have gone wrong did. I was applying as a kjd with no real work experience/volunteering/etc. My PS was really bland. My LORs were just from professors who's classes I did well in. I didn't write any additional essays. I have a c&f which isn't too bad, but I don't think I focused enough on making it polished. I applied in late January, which isn't bad but didn't do me any favorspatttt wrote:This is really interesting. Care to elaborate on this?Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Anecdotal: I didn't write any in 2014 because I had 3.75 173 and I thought "numbers rule all". I got WL basically every where in T14. There were probably many issues with my packet, but I'm sure zero supplemental essays didn't help.RamTitan wrote:I initially read on TLS that it doesn't matter, that numbers rule all, etc. But I'm going to err on caution and write one lmao
I will be writing many Why X's this cycle
Looking back I was just generally the kid who gets good numbers and then figures they can rest on their laurels. I still got into Cornell with money (so this should be seen as some defense of numbers are most important), but decided I really didn't take the app cycle seriously and needed to mature a bit before going so I deferred.
We'll see how it goes this time around, but I needed to learn that there are more than enough people with good numbers and I definitely did.
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We are pretty similar applicants to be honest. Thank you for that. It seems that of all the things you mentioned, the "bland" personal statement worked against you the most. I think adcomms take them pretty seriously and use it to set you apart from the next guy who has the same numbers lol. I think that since you seem to know what you did wrong, this cycle will work out pretty nicely for you. Best of luckDr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Sure. I mean I honestly don't really know what went wrong, so I'm assuming everything that could have gone wrong did. I was applying as a kjd with no real work experience/volunteering/etc. My PS was really bland. My LORs were just from professors who's classes I did well in. I didn't write any additional essays. I have a c&f which isn't too bad, but I don't think I focused enough on making it polished. I applied in late January, which isn't bad but didn't do me any favorspatttt wrote:This is really interesting. Care to elaborate on this?Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Anecdotal: I didn't write any in 2014 because I had 3.75 173 and I thought "numbers rule all". I got WL basically every where in T14. There were probably many issues with my packet, but I'm sure zero supplemental essays didn't help.RamTitan wrote:I initially read on TLS that it doesn't matter, that numbers rule all, etc. But I'm going to err on caution and write one lmao
I will be writing many Why X's this cycle
Looking back I was just generally the kid who gets good numbers and then figures they can rest on their laurels. I still got into Cornell with money (so this should be seen as some defense of numbers are most important), but decided I really didn't take the app cycle seriously and needed to mature a bit before going so I deferred.
We'll see how it goes this time around, but I needed to learn that there are more than enough people with good numbers and I definitely did.
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Thanks man, you too.patttt wrote:We are pretty similar applicants to be honest. Thank you for that. It seems that of all the things you mentioned, the "bland" personal statement worked against you the most. I think adcomms take them pretty seriously and use it to set you apart from the next guy who has the same numbers lol. I think that since you seem to know what you did wrong, this cycle will work out pretty nicely for you. Best of luckDr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Sure. I mean I honestly don't really know what went wrong, so I'm assuming everything that could have gone wrong did. I was applying as a kjd with no real work experience/volunteering/etc. My PS was really bland. My LORs were just from professors who's classes I did well in. I didn't write any additional essays. I have a c&f which isn't too bad, but I don't think I focused enough on making it polished. I applied in late January, which isn't bad but didn't do me any favorspatttt wrote:This is really interesting. Care to elaborate on this?Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Anecdotal: I didn't write any in 2014 because I had 3.75 173 and I thought "numbers rule all". I got WL basically every where in T14. There were probably many issues with my packet, but I'm sure zero supplemental essays didn't help.RamTitan wrote:I initially read on TLS that it doesn't matter, that numbers rule all, etc. But I'm going to err on caution and write one lmao
I will be writing many Why X's this cycle
Looking back I was just generally the kid who gets good numbers and then figures they can rest on their laurels. I still got into Cornell with money (so this should be seen as some defense of numbers are most important), but decided I really didn't take the app cycle seriously and needed to mature a bit before going so I deferred.
We'll see how it goes this time around, but I needed to learn that there are more than enough people with good numbers and I definitely did.
I figure anyone who is committed enough to be here before apps open should do pretty well compared to numbers. Here's hoping everyone does awesome

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proteinshake wrote:can you give my a link on why it's BS? I don't think it's as bad as Penn but if you have a 4.0/180, I believe you'll just get WL.RamTitan wrote:Eh, the more I'm reading on this topic, the more I'm calling BS on proteinshakeRamTitan wrote:What if the person has a 4.0 and a 180 (theoretical person, definitely not me)?proteinshake wrote:it's not required, but don't expect to get in if you don't do it. I believe everyone, or close to everyone, who gets accepted writes one.RamTitan wrote:Is that a required essay?proteinshake wrote:waddup fam. anyone know any good sources that should help with crafting the Why UVA?
Is it typically advised to write a "why x" essay if a school asks for it?
I didn't know that schools cared about "Why X"s? Other than UVA and Penn, what other schools value those essays? Sorry...I know this is the UVA thread.
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Duke, Michigan, and I THINK Berkeley20171lhopeful wrote:proteinshake wrote:can you give my a link on why it's BS? I don't think it's as bad as Penn but if you have a 4.0/180, I believe you'll just get WL.RamTitan wrote:Eh, the more I'm reading on this topic, the more I'm calling BS on proteinshakeRamTitan wrote:What if the person has a 4.0 and a 180 (theoretical person, definitely not me)?proteinshake wrote:it's not required, but don't expect to get in if you don't do it. I believe everyone, or close to everyone, who gets accepted writes one.RamTitan wrote:Is that a required essay?proteinshake wrote:waddup fam. anyone know any good sources that should help with crafting the Why UVA?
Is it typically advised to write a "why x" essay if a school asks for it?
I didn't know that schools cared about "Why X"s? Other than UVA and Penn, what other schools value those essays? Sorry...I know this is the UVA thread.
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I'm applying to UVA, not sure if I will attend. I've lived in a college town for the last 6 years and I think I don't want to live in one any more... But we'll see!
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UVA LSAT median is up to 169, a one point increase.
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huh, on par with NYU now.proteinshake wrote:UVA LSAT median is up to 169, a one point increase.
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I have a feeling NYU will go up to 170.ayylmao wrote:huh, on par with NYU now.proteinshake wrote:UVA LSAT median is up to 169, a one point increase.
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So you think applications from highly qualified candidates to top law schools have hit their nadir and are starting to rebound now?proteinshake wrote:I have a feeling NYU will go up to 170.ayylmao wrote:huh, on par with NYU now.proteinshake wrote:UVA LSAT median is up to 169, a one point increase.
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according to Spivey they were up last year but he thinks it'll be about the same this year.ayylmao wrote:So you think applications from highly qualified candidates to top law schools have hit their nadir and are starting to rebound now?proteinshake wrote:I have a feeling NYU will go up to 170.ayylmao wrote:huh, on par with NYU now.proteinshake wrote:UVA LSAT median is up to 169, a one point increase.
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Original post updated with all the new info. Thanks for grabbing that.proteinshake wrote:UVA LSAT median is up to 169, a one point increase.
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The numbers overlap!ponderingmeerkat wrote:New poll
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patttt wrote:The numbers overlap!ponderingmeerkat wrote:New poll

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Shit! Don't drink and post kids.proteinshake wrote:patttt wrote:The numbers overlap!ponderingmeerkat wrote:New poll

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Starting to check in on these various threads in schools of interests. Gotta find those splitter friendly ones.
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They need to overlap though, otherwise someone with X and half years of WE won't have a category. If you have exactly X years of WE, then vote for the one where X is the ceiling I guess.ponderingmeerkat wrote:Shit! Don't drink and post kids.proteinshake wrote:patttt wrote:The numbers overlap!ponderingmeerkat wrote:New poll![]()
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Yea...if you look at that timestamp it was 10:45 PM on a Saturday night. Pretty sure you guys could've convinced me I fucked up any number of things.R. Jeeves wrote:They need to overlap though, otherwise someone with X and half years of WE won't have a category. If you have exactly X years of WE, then vote for the one where X is the ceiling I guess.ponderingmeerkat wrote:Shit! Don't drink and post kids.proteinshake wrote:patttt wrote:The numbers overlap!ponderingmeerkat wrote:New poll![]()
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Checking in. I'm 30 with marginal work experience. 169/3.2 so pretty classic splitter. UVA isn't my first choice but not too far behind.
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What kind of stats would an AA URM need to get scholarship money from UVA or is it too hard to predict? UVA is definitely my second choice.
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