On Reserve at Cornell c/o 2017 Forum

[lwschool2014]

I've been PMed by 5 others so far thanking me for posting that because they were too worried that adcomms would match their account to their profile. So no, I don't think calming down is the answer. The Cornell adcomm should know that many reserve students are fed up with the process. I don't care if NU is worse, what Cornell has been doing is pathetic. Refusing to accept reject or WL people past June is outrageous and we all deserve apologies and/or refunds if this continues.

Just because some on here are privileged enough to wait on an INITIAL DECISION this long doesn't mean the rest of us are.

[SteelPenguin]

Isn't reserve just Cornell's version of an initial waitlist? Also, this is nothing new to admissions. Columbia is refusing to even tell people whether or not they have been placed on reserve/waitlists.

[moralsentiments]

I've been PMed by 5 others so far thanking me for posting that because they were too worried that adcomms would match their account to their profile. So no, I don't think calming down is the answer. The Cornell adcomm should know that many reserve students are fed up with the process. I don't care if NU is worse, what Cornell has been doing is pathetic. Refusing to accept reject or WL people past June is outrageous and we all deserve apologies and/or refunds if this continues.

Just because some on here are privileged enough to wait on an INITIAL DECISION this long doesn't mean the rest of us are.

Then stop being a pussy and call the adcomms and tell them how pathetic they are, remove yourself from the reserve list, and demand your money back. Adcomms aren't lurking TLS to try to figure out how to make the admissions process better by listening to the whining of little babies on their reserve list. They know exactly what they're doing, and everyone else in this thread who is on reserve seems to have a pretty good understanding as well (hence no one else crying like a douche). Hell, I applied in September, was reserved in February, and have not heard a thing since. So, consider yourself lucky you have waited 4 months less than me.

Also, people on here aren't privileged enough to wait on an initial decision, they are smart enough to have already made a decision based on the acceptances they already have, and are only keeping Cornell an option if they get accepted off reserve/offered enough scholarship. So maybe hold off on the well thought out judgements there.

You should just stop bitching....whether or not people are thanking you via PM doesn't change the fact that your whining, name calling, and foul language isn't accomplishing anything.

[lwschool2014]

Also, people on here aren't privileged enough to wait on an initial decision, they are smart enough to have already made a decision based on the acceptances they already have, and are only keeping Cornell an option if they get accepted off reserve/offered enough scholarship. So maybe hold off on the well thought out judgements there.

being privileged has nothing to do with smarts, the point is that under privileged people don't have the resources to put multiple deposits down and also afford to wait and sign a lease on a moments notice somewhere halfway across the country. Honestly check yourself before you wreck yourself. Your ignorance is laughable.

[bombaysippin]

retake, get a better score, get yourself out of this mess, stop bitching.

ETA: Or rather this should've been the solution, since it's too late to do anything for this year's cycle.

[lwschool2014]

retake, get a better score, get yourself out of this mess, stop bitching.

That's irrelevant to the topic I'm bringing up of a school literally refusing to give people a decision within 9, 8, and 4 months despite the fact that they paid $80 for that exact decision. Stop defending these whimps for the sake of being a pretentious TLS asshole and realize an injustice when you see it.

[bombaysippin]

Lol...you do realize a bunch of schools do this. You should also realize you're the one who is trying to get admitted (along with others of course) and so you're not really in much of a position to be demanding a decision. When they get back to you, they get back to you. If you don't like it, then just withdraw.

You come off sounding super entitled...not a good luck buddy.

[moralsentiments]

Also, people on here aren't privileged enough to wait on an initial decision, they are smart enough to have already made a decision based on the acceptances they already have, and are only keeping Cornell an option if they get accepted off reserve/offered enough scholarship. So maybe hold off on the well thought out judgements there.

being privileged has nothing to do with smarts, the point is that under privileged people don't have the resources to put multiple deposits down and also afford to wait and sign a lease on a moments notice somewhere halfway across the country. Honestly check yourself before you wreck yourself. Your ignorance is laughable.

Listen Ice Cube, how about not applying to schools where your numbers are likely to land you on a wait list if you're not willing to wait...no one said anything about multiple deposits. If you know anything about wait lists you should know that they can literally take you up until the week before classes start, so you should treat a wait list as if it's a ding. Pick ONE school from your acceptances that you would be happy to go to and deposit there. In the event you get in off a wait list, you're going to have to make the decision for yourself if it's worth last minute lease and forfeiting your previous deposits, but that's just the way it goes. I'm inclined to believe you knew this before going in to this process.

Privilege has nothing to do with anything, you just sound stupid. If you don't like the process as it currently is, there are things YOU can do to change it for yourself.

1. Call the adcomms and tell them how pathetic they are, remove yourself from the wait list (reserve), and demand your money back.
2. Retake the LSAT so you get higher than a 168 making it less likely to land on a wait list and reapply next cycle.
3. Apply earlier in the cycle. January isn't "late" necessarily, but if you retake and get a 170+ and apply in November, you'll be in a better position to avoid wait lists.
4. Stop crying, complaining about how under privileged you are, cursing, name calling, insulting, and quoting 90's rappers, and find another profession.

[NYSprague]

retake, get a better score, get yourself out of this mess, stop bitching.

That's irrelevant to the topic I'm bringing up of a school literally refusing to give people a decision within 9, 8, and 4 months despite the fact that they paid $80 for that exact decision. Stop defending these whimps for the sake of being a pretentious TLS asshole and realize an injustice when you see it.

You should probably assume it's a no and make your decision accordingly. You are deciding to remain on the waitlist. Maybe it will work out, but you can't count on it.

I do think you have a valid point about the money not being an object for some people,while for other people the cost of wasting money is too high. This isn't relevant to the timetable of the law school admissions, if they are waiting on decisions from people higher up on the list.

[lwschool2014]

Lol...you do realize a bunch of schools do this. You should also realize you're the one who is trying to get admitted (along with others of course) and so you're not really in much of a position to be demanding a decision. When they get back to you, they get back to you. If you don't like it, then just withdraw.

You come off sounding super entitled...not a good luck buddy.

Yes I am in a position of entitlement to get a decision after I paid $80 for one. At least WL people, don't just step away from the batters box and wait till you think your school can make better decisions. Its so unreasonable to ask students to put deposits down elsewhere (because I want to go to law school next fall, as is my right) and then wait till nearly July to hear back on AN INTIAL DECISION before they can sign a lease at another school. Normal people don't have the money to afford that. If you do, congrats. But that doesn't justify the absurd treatment they are giving people.

Also again, I'm not the only one complaining. As I said many people (6, now) have pm'ed me with the exact same frustrations.

[NYSprague]

I don't understand about initial decision. Aren't you on the wait list?

[moralsentiments]

Lol...you do realize a bunch of schools do this. You should also realize you're the one who is trying to get admitted (along with others of course) and so you're not really in much of a position to be demanding a decision. When they get back to you, they get back to you. If you don't like it, then just withdraw.

You come off sounding super entitled...not a good luck buddy.

Yes I am in a position of entitlement to get a decision after I paid $80 for one. At least WL people, don't just step away from the batters box and wait till you think your school can make better decisions. Its so unreasonable to ask students to put deposits down elsewhere (because I want to go to law school next fall, as is my right) and then wait till nearly July to hear back on AN INTIAL DECISION before they can sign a lease at another school. Normal people don't have the money to afford that. If you do, congrats. But that doesn't justify the absurd treatment they are giving people.

Also again, I'm not the only one complaining. As I said many people (6, now) have pm'ed me with the exact same frustrations.

Not once did I or anyone else say that the process is awesome. It SUCKS, we all know that. You think I like waiting 9 months for a decision? I don't have the money to put multiple deposits willy nilly. But it's the way it goes, and this is a process we voluntarily entered knowing that reality. By the way, they did give you an INITIAL DECISION...it's called reserve....what you're waiting on is their final decision.

[lwschool2014]

Lol...you do realize a bunch of schools do this. You should also realize you're the one who is trying to get admitted (along with others of course) and so you're not really in much of a position to be demanding a decision. When they get back to you, they get back to you. If you don't like it, then just withdraw.

You come off sounding super entitled...not a good luck buddy.

Yes I am in a position of entitlement to get a decision after I paid $80 for one. At least WL people, don't just step away from the batters box and wait till you think your school can make better decisions. Its so unreasonable to ask students to put deposits down elsewhere (because I want to go to law school next fall, as is my right) and then wait till nearly July to hear back on AN INTIAL DECISION before they can sign a lease at another school. Normal people don't have the money to afford that. If you do, congrats. But that doesn't justify the absurd treatment they are giving people.

Also again, I'm not the only one complaining. As I said many people (6, now) have pm'ed me with the exact same frustrations.

Not once did I or anyone else say that the process is awesome. It SUCKS, we all know that. You think I like waiting 9 months for a decision? I don't have the money to put multiple deposits willy nilly. But it's the way it goes, and this is a process we voluntarily entered knowing that reality. By the way, they did give you an INITIAL DECISION...it's called reserve....what you're waiting on is their final decision.

If "we can't make a decision at this point" is your version of an initial decision then good luck. I paid $80 for more than a fucking balk. If reserved is a WL then they ought say that. Reserve, from how they described it, is not a WL it's a lack of judgement. It's pathetic. I can't afford to lose my first deposit money, $1000 is not something that we should brush off as a sunk cost.

TLS, you're better than this.

[Nucky]

I think the guys knocking the impatient lad should take it easy as much as he should.

Hopefully we get decisions soon so we can stop virtually cannibalizing one another.

[BullShitWithBravado]

Lol...you do realize a bunch of schools do this. You should also realize you're the one who is trying to get admitted (along with others of course) and so you're not really in much of a position to be demanding a decision. When they get back to you, they get back to you. If you don't like it, then just withdraw.

You come off sounding super entitled...not a good luck buddy.

Yes I am in a position of entitlement to get a decision after I paid $80 for one. At least WL people, don't just step away from the batters box and wait till you think your school can make better decisions. Its so unreasonable to ask students to put deposits down elsewhere (because I want to go to law school next fall, as is my right) and then wait till nearly July to hear back on AN INTIAL DECISION before they can sign a lease at another school. Normal people don't have the money to afford that. If you do, congrats. But that doesn't justify the absurd treatment they are giving people.

Also again, I'm not the only one complaining. As I said many people (6, now) have pm'ed me with the exact same frustrations.

Not once did I or anyone else say that the process is awesome. It SUCKS, we all know that. You think I like waiting 9 months for a decision? I don't have the money to put multiple deposits willy nilly. But it's the way it goes, and this is a process we voluntarily entered knowing that reality. By the way, they did give you an INITIAL DECISION...it's called reserve....what you're waiting on is their final decision.

If "we can't make a decision at this point" is your version of an initial decision then good luck. I paid $80 for more than a fucking balk. If reserved is a WL then they ought say that. Reserve, from how they described it, is not a WL it's a lack of judgement. It's pathetic. I can't afford to lose my first deposit money, $1000 is not something that we should brush off as a sunk cost.

TLS, you're better than this.

You won't lose your $1,000 if you go to whatever school you got accepted to. Problem solved.

[moralsentiments]

I think the guys knocking the impatient lad should take it easy as much as he should.

Hopefully we get decisions soon so we can stop virtually cannibalizing one another.

I agree, maybe I took it too far. Whining just grinds my gears. Sounds to me like only real option lwschool2014 is giving him/herself is to withdraw. If you can't afford to lose $1,000 then don't.

[lwschool2014]

Yes I am in a position of entitlement to get a decision after I paid $80 for one. At least WL people, don't just step away from the batters box and wait till you think your school can make better decisions. Its so unreasonable to ask students to put deposits down elsewhere (because I want to go to law school next fall, as is my right) and then wait till nearly July to hear back on AN INTIAL DECISION before they can sign a lease at another school. Normal people don't have the money to afford that. If you do, congrats. But that doesn't justify the absurd treatment they are giving people.

Also again, I'm not the only one complaining. As I said many people (6, now) have pm'ed me with the exact same frustrations.

Not once did I or anyone else say that the process is awesome. It SUCKS, we all know that. You think I like waiting 9 months for a decision? I don't have the money to put multiple deposits willy nilly. But it's the way it goes, and this is a process we voluntarily entered knowing that reality. By the way, they did give you an INITIAL DECISION...it's called reserve....what you're waiting on is their final decision.

If "we can't make a decision at this point" is your version of an initial decision then good luck. I paid $80 for more than a fucking balk. If reserved is a WL then they ought say that. Reserve, from how they described it, is not a WL it's a lack of judgement. It's pathetic. I can't afford to lose my first deposit money, $1000 is not something that we should brush off as a sunk cost.

TLS, you're better than this.

You won't lose your $1,000 if you go to whatever school you got accepted to. Problem solved.

Spoken like a true TLS privileged fuck.
Everyday I MUBU and, still, that $80 app fee is something that deserved an actual decision for. I can't believe people are defending Cornell.

[Nucky]

Fwiw, I deposited at another school, and if Cornell accepts me I may lose it... But that's fine. I applied with lesser than auto-admit numbers and I'd consider it a priceless and wonderful opportunity to be admitted at this point.

If you guys have better options then get off the reserve list. I think most of us are here for the same reason I am. We've deposited at a top school, and are waiting to see if our lotto number gets called. If it does, great! I'll gladly lose my first deposit if it means getting into Cornell. If not, well hey, were all on reserve at a T14 so I'm sure we all have other solid options.

I certainly would've loved an earlier decision, that'd make our lives easier. But I hardly think were in a position to demand anything. Personally, I'm planning to attend the school I've deposited at and if were fortunate enough to be admitted, then we pivot.

The dividends of a Cornell degree will make up for any transgression, in my opinion. But I do think you shouldn't count on it. Our chances of admission are less than they were as a regular applicant in January. It's a lottery at this point.

[moralsentiments]

No one is defending Cornell. You're going to get your $80 decision. Probably this coming week, just the same as all of us. That's why people are telling you to relax. We don't disagree that it sucks, and it's a crappy situation we're all in, but cussing and getting all pissed off isn't going to make the situation any better.

[rahulg91]

That was an interesting tangent...

How many LOCIs has everyone sent in? I want to send in more but don't want to annoy them...

[Nucky]

Cornell has to deal with the fact that the T14ers who get in to HYSCCNVBM may jump ship if they get off a WL. I hardly think it's due to any nefarious intentions. Just plan out your Fall given the options you have and consider it a blessing if you get off reserve. Simple as that.

The wait sucks, no doubt. But there's a reason behind it.

ETA: I've sent off 3.

[NYSprague]

Isn't reserve a waitlist by another name? Cornell doesn't have another list called wait list do they? It is just semantics.

Just assume it is a no because you can't afford to wait any more? I don't know what other advice to give you. Losing $1000 isn't a smart idea for anyone, but schools make decisions off who gives them a deposit.

Maybe you need to retake and reapply if you want Cornell more than any other school? You could save up some more money as well.

[Lavitz]

Isn't reserve a waitlist by another name? Cornell doesn't have another list called wait list do they? It is just semantics.

Technically, they do, but it's basically them just changing the name from "reserve" to "waitlist" in late July. So yes, semantics.

[NYSprague]

Isn't reserve a waitlist by another name? Cornell doesn't have another list called wait list do they? It is just semantics.

Technically, they do, but it's basically them just changing the name from "reserve" to "waitlist" in late July. So yes, semantics.

So it is the same people? Do they cut the list at all?

What advice do you have for people on reserve Lavitz? You understand this system.

[Lavitz]

Isn't reserve a waitlist by another name? Cornell doesn't have another list called wait list do they? It is just semantics.

Technically, they do, but it's basically them just changing the name from "reserve" to "waitlist" in late July. So yes, semantics.

So it is the same people? Do they cut the list at all?

What advice do you have for people on reserve Lavitz? You understand this system.

As far as I can tell, they did not ding anyone the day they moved everyone from reserve to the waitlist. I don't know if they rejected anyone before then. The last two rejections I see on LSN last cycle occurred in May. If anyone feels like it, they can just read the end of last year's thread to see what happened.

I was never reserved so I don't know what I can say to help people get in. I know my friend RetakeFrenzy basically went scorched earth on the admissions office and sent at least 1 LOCI a month starting from when he got reserved until he got in. No idea if that's necessary. But I guess send an LOCI if you don't get in this week? Not much else you can really do.

Only other advice I'd like to give is to watch what you say on here. I'm not talking about adcomms--I've criticized the admissions office in the past myself--I'm talking about lashing out at your potential future classmates. It was very easy for me to figure out almost every TLSer's identity no matter how little they posted. You don't want the word to get out that you called your classmates assholes because they asked you to calm down. I've been on TLS for 4 years and I've never seen anyone react like this in the waitlist threads. I know it's frustrating, but that's how waitlists are. So chill.