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Post by Pozzo » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:36 pm

Keilz wrote:I can't do basic math anymore :( what's the formula to solve how many applicants had each specific score last year based on this years applicants and the percentage change?
# this year / (1 + % change this year)

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Post by Keilz » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:39 pm

Monday wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Formula
Last Year # = Current Year # / (1 + XX/100), where XX is the percentage change.
Thanks all Lolol I was multiplying instead of dividing

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Post by hellohalo » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:41 pm

Keilz wrote:I can't do basic math anymore :( what's the formula to solve how many applicants had each specific score last year based on this years applicants and the percentage change?
(#17-#16)/#16=%

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Post by dclaw93 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:43 pm

Based on latest data, 170+ group is down -3.3%, but if you take out the high number of 170 scorers, 171+ group is down -17.3%.

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Post by Thelaw23 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:45 pm

Based on the latest data, the number of law schools who told me to go screw myself with my 174+ LSAT score has risen by 50%

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Post by Mr_Chukes » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:41 pm

Thelaw23 wrote:Based on the latest data, the number of law schools who told me to go screw myself with my 174+ LSAT score has risen by 50%
This just doesn't seem right. They should all welcome you with open arms lol.

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Post by shotgunheist » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:10 pm

Looking at schools I applied to on the lawschoolnumbers graph it really hurts me seeing that a lot of schools auto admits are some lsat line and then 3.7 and up gpas... when i have a low 160's lsat and a 3.68 it hurts. Look at BU, WUSTL, Emory for examples.

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Post by Litt1tUp » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:20 pm

shotgunheist wrote:Looking at schools I applied to on the lawschoolnumbers graph it really hurts me seeing that a lot of schools auto admits are some lsat line and then 3.7 and up gpas... when i have a low 160's lsat and a 3.68 it hurts. Look at BU, WUSTL, Emory for examples.
Yeah a year ago I was set on applying with my 162 as I thought it was an auto admit to BU and BC... I wonder how they are gonna maintain their numbers when they are not accepting their previous target populations

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Post by RParadela » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:21 pm

Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds

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Post by brinicolec » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:37 pm

RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.

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Post by amberb94 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:38 pm

RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
Cornell is being pretty rude

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Post by haley12 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:52 pm

brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
Yes and YES! What happened to this cycle being a splitter's game??

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Post by brinicolec » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:57 pm

haley12 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
Yes and YES! What happened to this cycle being a splitter's game??
I think it might've ended up being a better cycle for reverse splitters than traditional splitters, but I'm not sure because I haven't been looking at reverse splitters' cycles lol.

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Post by Nightwing » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:10 pm

brinicolec wrote:
haley12 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
Yes and YES! What happened to this cycle being a splitter's game??
I think it might've ended up being a better cycle for reverse splitters than traditional splitters, but I'm not sure because I haven't been looking at reverse splitters' cycles lol.
For Cornell at least, absolutely, this has been more of a reverse splitters' cycle.

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Post by brinicolec » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:15 pm

Nightwing wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
haley12 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
Yes and YES! What happened to this cycle being a splitter's game??
I think it might've ended up being a better cycle for reverse splitters than traditional splitters, but I'm not sure because I haven't been looking at reverse splitters' cycles lol.
For Cornell at least, absolutely, this has been more of a reverse splitters' cycle.
Part of the reason I'm not liking the idea of sitting out a cycle is if top schools are starting to lean more towards GPA than LSAT and it's only gonna get worse, the longer I wait, the more screwed I'll be lol

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Post by RParadela » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:19 pm

brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
URM cycles are so weird sometimes. I see URMs with very pedestrian numbers that absolutely crush it and then there are ones that don't seem like they got much of a boost.

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Post by theboringest » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:21 pm

RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
Honestly I think I'm outperforming my numbers...I've been loving this cycle. Seems pretty feast or famine from what I'm seeing. People doing well are crushing it, or people are getting nothing. Not a lot of middle ground.

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Post by brinicolec » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:28 pm

RParadela wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
URM cycles are so weird sometimes. I see URMs with very pedestrian numbers that absolutely crush it and then there are ones that don't seem like they got much of a boost.
yeah, I agree. Like I said, T15-25 are showing me love and it's nice but T14s are more like "Meh" or "No" or "Yeah, okay, if you're willing to foot this bill yourself [I'm not]"

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Post by S.Picquery » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:32 pm

brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
RParadela wrote:Is it me or does this cycle seem pretty unfavorable to people in general? I see a lot more people with good numbers being rejected than people with poor numbers getting in against the odds
It's been pretty unfavorable TOWARDS ME!!!!! lol. Just kidding. It's really just the T14 being hard to break into for me. T15-T25 has been very receptive lol.
URM cycles are so weird sometimes. I see URMs with very pedestrian numbers that absolutely crush it and then there are ones that don't seem like they got much of a boost.
yeah, I agree. Like I said, T15-25 are showing me love and it's nice but T14s are more like "Meh" or "No" or "Yeah, okay, if you're willing to foot this bill yourself [I'm not]"
I want to agree with what y'all are saying but I have some great acceptances but only one school that I haven't already decided against has given me final FinAid and it is not a good amount. 288k upon repayment is a cruel consideration IMO.

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Post by theboringest » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:38 pm

dclaw93 wrote:Based on latest data, 170+ group is down -3.3%, but if you take out the high number of 170 scorers, 171+ group is down -17.3%.
Combine that with 169's being down 40% (which is insane) and you're looking at some serious median hits for T14.

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Post by Kopetz » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:45 pm

theboringest wrote:
dclaw93 wrote:Based on latest data, 170+ group is down -3.3%, but if you take out the high number of 170 scorers, 171+ group is down -17.3%.
Combine that with 169's being down 40% (which is insane) and you're looking at some serious median hits for T14.
Maybe not as seriously as we're all hoping. The increase in 170s partially offsets the drop in 169s -- it's a difference of about 89 fewer applicants with 169/170 scores. That averages to about ten fewer median-level applicants for each T14 with a median of 169 or higher.

Of course, the drop in >170 scores probably amplifies the pressure on school medians, especially in the 171-174 range where we see some pretty big dropoffs. I have to think that's more of a headache for HYSCCN than for the rest of the T14, though.

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Post by theboringest » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:48 pm

Kopetz wrote:
theboringest wrote:
dclaw93 wrote:Based on latest data, 170+ group is down -3.3%, but if you take out the high number of 170 scorers, 171+ group is down -17.3%.
Combine that with 169's being down 40% (which is insane) and you're looking at some serious median hits for T14.
Maybe not as seriously as we're all hoping. The increase in 170s partially offsets the drop in 169s -- it's a difference of about 89 fewer applicants with 169/170 scores. That averages to about ten fewer median-level applicants for each T14 with a median of 169 or higher.

Of course, the drop in >170 scores probably amplifies the pressure on school medians, especially in the 171-174 range where we see some pretty big dropoffs. I have to think that's more of a headache for HYSCCN than for the rest of the T14, though.
I think that will just push the pressure down- HYSCCN will compete more fiercely for, and get more of, the 170+ pie, leaving less for the lower T14, who are going to have to each get a higher yield of the 169/170 scorers than usual to keep their 75ths...pressure on their 75ths puts pressure on the medians...it just trickles down. Especially since it seems a lot of the current medians are maintained by pretty razor margins.

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