WUSTL c/o 2018 Applicants Forum

[chuckbass]

Question for Scotti et al--
(Sorry for intruding, but I don't know anyone else who got 1L SA.)

If you applied on 12/1 and if you did get a 1L SA (which you did obv.), BUT say you had gotten bad grades in your 1L year, is it better to try to trade down at OCI in August to a firm that has a more realistic chance of giving you an offer at a job after graduation?

Also is LGI still a student here? He's not planning to transfer? (Sorry if this has been mentioned itt already.)

@Chingwoo, anyone applying 12/1 is still generally going to have to show first semester grades before getting hired, or at least my friends at other T14s that got 1L SAs had to. You apply 12/1 just so that you get your app in, and again, there are usually quick deadlines.

@Laws you shouldn't trade down, no. Fwiw more 1L SAs on average actually make you go through the recruiting process again, i.e. most of the diversity programs specifically say in the application that you are not directly considered for a 2L offer and would have to interview again. Granted, doing a 1L SA at the firm can really only help you and you should be good if you want to stay at the firm granted you don't fuck up too much over the summer. Also for firms that do give offers for their 1Ls to return, depending on the timing, you may have to do OCI even if you want to stay at your firm depending on when the firm gives out offers. You don't want to assume you're getting an offer and then skip OCI, only to not receive an offer and miss out on OCI. As for grade drops, unless you drop from something like top 5% to median I don't think it's much of a problem when it comes to offers, even if you're just a 1L hoping for a 2L offer then full time offer after that. Granted I'm in a bit of a unique situation, but I updated my firm with my spring grades after receiving/accepting a 2L offer, and my grades dropped a bit and it's not an issue and it won't come up in a year when they're looking at making the full time offer.

[LawsRUs]

Thank you, all. That makes sense.

[chuckbass]

Thank you, all. That makes sense.

But again, don't worry about 1L SAs. Worry about grades.

But also it's summer before your 1L year so go to the beach and don't worry about anything right now and enjoy your free time.

[RareExports]

I've spent my evenings after work this summer working on my OCI body. Obviously need to slim and trim for well-fitted suits. Way more effective than reading E&Es. Thoughts??

[chuckbass]

I've spent my evenings after work this summer working on my OCI body. Obviously need to slim and trim for well-fitted suits. Way more effective than reading E&Es. Thoughts??

Your appearance actually matters a lot. Like you don't have to be fit, but I mean tbh if someone is very obese that will affect their results.

[RareExports]

I've spent my evenings after work this summer working on my OCI body. Obviously need to slim and trim for well-fitted suits. Way more effective than reading E&Es. Thoughts??

Your appearance actually matters a lot. Like you don't have to be fit, but I mean tbh if someone is very obese that will affect their results.

I told my girlfriend on our run last night that I was getting in shape a) for her and b) for OCI.

[LET'S GET IT]

I've spent my evenings after work this summer working on my OCI body. Obviously need to slim and trim for well-fitted suits. Way more effective than reading E&Es. Thoughts??

Your appearance actually matters a lot. Like you don't have to be fit, but I mean tbh if someone is very obese that will affect their results.

I told my girlfriend on our run last night that I was getting in shape a) for her and b) for OCI.

You have your priorities mixed up, but least you have the right things on the list, albeit out of order.

[chuckbass]

I've spent my evenings after work this summer working on my OCI body. Obviously need to slim and trim for well-fitted suits. Way more effective than reading E&Es. Thoughts??

Your appearance actually matters a lot. Like you don't have to be fit, but I mean tbh if someone is very obese that will affect their results.

I told my girlfriend on our run last night that I was getting in shape a) for her and b) for OCI.

You have your priorities mixed up, but least you have the right things on the list, albeit out of order.

Yeah she wants the $$$ bro.

[legit]

Haha, I like the "OCI body" catchphrase.

For events that are designated business casual, do people go with the flow or suit up?

Description of business casual: http://www.forbes.com/sites/reneesylves ... ss-casual/

[chuckbass]

Haha, I like the "OCI body" catchphrase.

For events that are designated business casual, do people go with the flow or suit up?

Description of business casual: http://www.forbes.com/sites/reneesylves ... ss-casual/

Um, what kind of events? All of orientation besides the first day was "business casual" but like lol at that. Whenever I showed up I was in shorts and a tee.

[legit]

Haha, I like the "OCI body" catchphrase.

For events that are designated business casual, do people go with the flow or suit up?

Description of business casual: http://www.forbes.com/sites/reneesylves ... ss-casual/

Um, what kind of events? All of orientation besides the first day was "business casual" but like lol at that. Whenever I showed up I was in shorts and a tee.

Didn't have orientation in mind, just wondering in general.

[chuckbass]

Haha, I like the "OCI body" catchphrase.

For events that are designated business casual, do people go with the flow or suit up?

Description of business casual: http://www.forbes.com/sites/reneesylves ... ss-casual/

Um, what kind of events? All of orientation besides the first day was "business casual" but like lol at that. Whenever I showed up I was in shorts and a tee.

Didn't have orientation in mind, just wondering in general.

Are you male or female?

ETA: if the dress code is business casual, dress in business casual. Suiting up would be unchill and you should not be unchill.

[legit]

Haha, I like the "OCI body" catchphrase.

For events that are designated business casual, do people go with the flow or suit up?

Description of business casual: http://www.forbes.com/sites/reneesylves ... ss-casual/

Um, what kind of events? All of orientation besides the first day was "business casual" but like lol at that. Whenever I showed up I was in shorts and a tee.

Didn't have orientation in mind, just wondering in general.

Are you male or female?

ETA: if the dress code is business casual, dress in business casual. Suiting up would be unchill and you should not be unchill.

Female. Agreed.

[chuckbass]

Ah ok yeah if you're a female I can't really give you any other advice than that. You have more leeway kind of but it's also just more difficult for a female to do business casual, considering a guy just wears shoes, pants, belt, and a button up.

[lososos]

Haha, I like the "OCI body" catchphrase.

For events that are designated business casual, do people go with the flow or suit up?

Description of business casual: http://www.forbes.com/sites/reneesylves ... ss-casual/

Um, what kind of events? All of orientation besides the first day was "business casual" but like lol at that. Whenever I showed up I was in shorts and a tee.

Didn't have orientation in mind, just wondering in general.

Are you male or female?

ETA: if the dress code is business casual, dress in business casual. Suiting up would be unchill and you should not be unchill.

Female. Agreed.

business casual can be absurdly difficult for us ladies, unfortunately. but i agree with scotti, you don't want to be unchill (that said, though, i think it's always better to be overdressed than underdressed if you can't be just right lol). without knowing what kind of events, it's hard to give specific ideas, but in general you'll do fine with like a dress under a blazer/jacket, or pants or a skirt and a nice blouse/shirt. another handy trick is to do pants or skirt + nice top with a jacket on, which you can take off if it makes you feel overdressed once you get to the event. and avoid particularly loud makeup or jewelry

[valen]

It'd be cool if sections could be assigned soon

[RareExports]

May we all receive B.

[Jmart082]

May we all receive B.

I pity the section that gets Greenfield. He was the worst ever.

[legit]

Any strategies for mass mailing? Does Career Services have a running list of firms who will look at us? Did any of you reach out to alumni strangers? Or just go down the Vault rankings?

[Jmart082]

Any strategies for mass mailing? Does Career Services have a running list of firms who will look at us? Did any of you reach out to alumni strangers? Or just go down the Vault rankings?

It's a numbers game. The more firms that you reach out to, the better. Where you apply is totally dependent on where/what you want to practice (you probably shouldn't know the answer to the latter question until you have substantive coursework/grades under your belt). And yes, CSO has a wealth of information about our alumni that you can use advantageously should you chose.

[PourMeTea]

I'd mass mail literally every firm in your target market.

[Jmart082]

I'd mass mail literally every firm in your target market.

[chuckbass]

I'd mass mail anywhere you wouldn't hate living.

[legit]

How serious is LinkedIn in law school?

[chuckbass]

How serious is LinkedIn in law school?

What do you mean by serious? Like as in, do you need to have it or what?