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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by guynourmin » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:18 am

jjcorvino wrote:What are the average numbers for ED acceptances? Do they not like splitters for ED?
Last time I looked (a while ago), I don't think any non-URM splitters got it last year.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by jjcorvino » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:23 am

guybourdin wrote:
jjcorvino wrote:What are the average numbers for ED acceptances? Do they not like splitters for ED?
Last time I looked (a while ago), I don't think any non-URM splitters got it last year.
I just looked and see that so far this year there were two 171/3.5 acceptances. Maybe they have a hard 3.5 floor for ED? I have a 3.4 but a higher LSAT.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by nerdylsat » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:39 pm

EinassA wrote:Y'all I can't even hide my saltiness. I just want an answer...good, bad, ugly, idc. SOMETHING. It's Friday. Where are their hearts?!
+1.

This was really mean on their part. :/

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 88234 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:42 pm

nerdylsat wrote:
EinassA wrote:Y'all I can't even hide my saltiness. I just want an answer...good, bad, ugly, idc. SOMETHING. It's Friday. Where are their hearts?!
+1.

This was really mean on their part. :/
Yeah, I am not a fan of how this was done.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 2000andBeyond » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:49 pm

[edited] It makes it a little easier though. It makes their rejection of you a little easier to swallow LOL
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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 2000andBeyond » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:50 pm

And of course if you're reading this NU, and you planned on accepting me/deferring me...I take everything back. I still love you :lol:

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by nerdylsat » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:52 pm

Technically they have until the end of the calendar year to give out their decisions so its not like they're at fault or anything.

Although not having any sort of update after people are getting accepted is definitely be nerve-wracking (and possibly a sign of bad news?).

I'm not losing faith tho :lol:

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 2000andBeyond » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:57 pm

nerdylsat wrote:Technically they have until the end of the calendar year to give out their decisions so its not like they're at fault or anything.

Although not having any sort of update after people are getting accepted is definitely be nerve-wracking (and possibly a sign of bad news?).

I'm not losing faith tho :lol:
Thank you for being a voice of reason lol

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by notsolawful » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:58 pm

88234 wrote:
nerdylsat wrote:
EinassA wrote:Y'all I can't even hide my saltiness. I just want an answer...good, bad, ugly, idc. SOMETHING. It's Friday. Where are their hearts?!
+1.

This was really mean on their part. :/
Yeah, I am not a fan of how this was done.
In c/o 2017, the admits were on Friday the 13th. The hold/Rejects didn't find out until the 19th.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by CPA-->JD » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:01 pm

Do you guy read anything into the tweet that "ed decisions round one are being loaded" meaning there are multiple rounds?

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by jjcorvino » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:02 pm

notsolawful wrote:
88234 wrote:
nerdylsat wrote:
EinassA wrote:Y'all I can't even hide my saltiness. I just want an answer...good, bad, ugly, idc. SOMETHING. It's Friday. Where are their hearts?!
+1.

This was really mean on their part. :/
Yeah, I am not a fan of how this was done.
In c/o 2017, the admits were on Friday the 13th. The hold/Rejects didn't find out until the 19th.
That is ridiculous. If you know who you are going to accept in the ED pile, you should know who you are holding/rejecting. Seems like they could easily all be sent simultaneously unless they are more admits than the first wave.

Edit: I also don't want to come off to harsh, there must be a reason that we don't know. I can't imagine they stress people out for fun. Just seems crazy from the outside looking in.
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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by notsolawful » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:03 pm

CPA-->JD wrote:Do you guy read anything into the tweet that "ed decisions round one are being loaded" meaning there are multiple rounds?
Yes but the later rounds have always been holds/rejects :(

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by jjcorvino » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:07 pm

CPA-->JD wrote:Do you guy read anything into the tweet that "ed decisions round one are being loaded" meaning there are multiple rounds?
I am not sure, but I just read through his old tweets and saw this:

https://twitter.com/tweetsbyjohann/stat ... 33?lang=en

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 88234 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:08 pm

jjcorvino wrote:
notsolawful wrote:
88234 wrote:
nerdylsat wrote:
EinassA wrote:Y'all I can't even hide my saltiness. I just want an answer...good, bad, ugly, idc. SOMETHING. It's Friday. Where are their hearts?!
+1.

This was really mean on their part. :/
Yeah, I am not a fan of how this was done.
In c/o 2017, the admits were on Friday the 13th. The hold/Rejects didn't find out until the 19th.
That is ridiculous. If you know who you are going to accept in the ED pile, you should know who you are holding/rejecting. Seems like they could easily all be sent simultaneously unless they are more admits than the first wave.

I reiterate: I am not a fan of how this was done.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by CPA-->JD » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:09 pm

notsolawful wrote:
CPA-->JD wrote:Do you guy read anything into the tweet that "ed decisions round one are being loaded" meaning there are multiple rounds?
Yes but the later rounds have always been holds/rejects :(
In the past all of the acceptances have been on the same day?

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by Keilz » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:10 pm

most schools release acceptances before rejections

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by guynourmin » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:20 pm

stress level in this thread is getting a touch high. If you thought you might get $150,000 from NU, you're going to have a good cycle even if you don't get the NU ED money! You might not have great news to give your families for the holidays, but I think we're all going to be fine.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 2000andBeyond » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:27 pm

guybourdin wrote:stress level in this thread is getting a touch high. If you thought you might get $150,000 from NU, you're going to have a good cycle even if you don't get the NU ED money! You might not have great news to give your families for the holidays, but I think we're all going to be fine.
Yeah, it's definitely palpable. Maybe because we aren't squaded the way other ED groups are? I feel there aren't that many of us?

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by jjcorvino » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:01 pm

guybourdin wrote:stress level in this thread is getting a touch high. If you thought you might get $150,000 from NU, you're going to have a good cycle even if you don't get the NU ED money! You might not have great news to give your families for the holidays, but I think we're all going to be fine.
You are right of course. Sorry that I have contributed to that. Of course I will get into some great schools, probably even NU still. Just sucks to have that dream of living almost debt free crushed.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by sp5000 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:11 pm

Another data point... I guess the dust hasn't fully settled at this point, but I'm deferred I assume.

172/3.42, STEM BS and MS, 2 years W/E, good alumnus interview

~~~~~~~ Speculation Below ~~~~~~~~~

I have been following this thread and was suprised to see JJCorvino not get in (again, working under the assumption that all acceptances are out). We have identical GPAs, but I expected the 177 LSAT to pull some weight. It seems we are identical from an admissions perspective: GPA < 25th and LSAT > 75th.

My guess is that this year (and possibly previous cyles? I'm not fully informed) NU used the ED program to try to move the 25th percentile GPA while trying to maintain the LSAT median and 75th. To go a step further, I think the play this year is to let the 75th fall back to a 169 and push the 25th percentile GPA back up from a 3.43 into a ~3.5 like the two previous cycles. This would explain the potential 3.5 floor for ED. And since high LSATs seem to be down, at least at this point in the cycle, NU may have decided to not even bother competing for the 170 75th. So a 169 is as good as a 177.

If anybody has an acceptance with numbers that contradict this, please share.

Changes in this year from last year LSAT scores for 170+ scores from the Spivey blog.

170 291 46.0%
171 267 -28.5%
172 227 -15.9%
173 165 -6.7%
174 147 -22.4%
175 90 -13.3%
176 72 -62.5%
177 59 -15.3%
178 31 -9.7%
179 13 38.5%
180 22 -40.9%

And the 2016 NU entering JD class

LSAT 25th, Median, 75th: 163, 168, 170.
GPA 25th, Median, 75th: 3.43, 3.81, 3.89

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 88234 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:19 pm

sp5000 wrote:Another data point... I guess the dust hasn't fully settled at this point, but I'm deferred I assume.

172/3.42, STEM BS and MS, 2 years W/E, good alumnus interview

~~~~~~~ Speculation Below ~~~~~~~~~

I have been following this thread and was suprised to see JJCorvino not get in (again, working under the assumption that all acceptances are out). We have identical GPAs, but I expected the 177 LSAT to pull some weight. It seems we are identical from an admissions perspective: GPA < 25th and LSAT > 75th.

My guess is that this year (and possibly previous cyles? I'm not fully informed) NU used the ED program to try to move the 25th percentile GPA while trying to maintain the LSAT median and 75th. To go a step further, I think the play this year is to let the 75th fall back to a 169 and push the 25th percentile GPA back up from a 3.43 into a ~3.5 like the two previous cycles. This would explain the potential 3.5 floor for ED. And since high LSATs seem to be down, at least at this point in the cycle, NU may have decided to not even bother competing for the 170 75th. So a 169 is as good as a 177.

If anybody has an acceptance with numbers that contradict this, please share.

Changes in this year from last year LSAT scores for 170+ scores from the Spivey blog.

170 291 46.0%
171 267 -28.5%
172 227 -15.9%
173 165 -6.7%
174 147 -22.4%
175 90 -13.3%
176 72 -62.5%
177 59 -15.3%
178 31 -9.7%
179 13 38.5%
180 22 -40.9%

And the 2016 NU entering JD class

LSAT 25th, Median, 75th: 163, 168, 170.
GPA 25th, Median, 75th: 3.43, 3.81, 3.89
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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by hellohalo » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:22 pm

no offense but that 169=177 speculation makes the law school admission process look so pathetic

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by jjcorvino » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:27 pm

sp5000 wrote:Another data point... I guess the dust hasn't fully settled at this point, but I'm deferred I assume.

172/3.42, STEM BS and MS, 2 years W/E, good alumnus interview

~~~~~~~ Speculation Below ~~~~~~~~~

I have been following this thread and was suprised to see JJCorvino not get in (again, working under the assumption that all acceptances are out). We have identical GPAs, but I expected the 177 LSAT to pull some weight. It seems we are identical from an admissions perspective: GPA < 25th and LSAT > 75th.

My guess is that this year (and possibly previous cyles? I'm not fully informed) NU used the ED program to try to move the 25th percentile GPA while trying to maintain the LSAT median and 75th. To go a step further, I think the play this year is to let the 75th fall back to a 169 and push the 25th percentile GPA back up from a 3.43 into a ~3.5 like the two previous cycles. This would explain the potential 3.5 floor for ED. And since high LSATs seem to be down, at least at this point in the cycle, NU may have decided to not even bother competing for the 170 75th. So a 169 is as good as a 177.

If anybody has an acceptance with numbers that contradict this, please share.

Changes in this year from last year LSAT scores for 170+ scores from the Spivey blog.

170 291 46.0%
171 267 -28.5%
172 227 -15.9%
173 165 -6.7%
174 147 -22.4%
175 90 -13.3%
176 72 -62.5%
177 59 -15.3%
178 31 -9.7%
179 13 38.5%
180 22 -40.9%

And the 2016 NU entering JD class

LSAT 25th, Median, 75th: 163, 168, 170.
GPA 25th, Median, 75th: 3.43, 3.81, 3.89
That would actually make a lot of sense.

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Re: Northwestern c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by 88234 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:27 pm

hellohalo wrote:no offense but that 169=177 speculation makes the law school admission process look so pathetic
Relying 90% on two numbers is kind of pathetic in itself; while I think you're right to call into question not differentiating a 177 from a 169, I think his general logic probably stands.

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