Yale c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

[sanibella]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

I did but after looking into it further (stalking last year's thread) it doesn't seem to mean anything.

I elaborated on my college activities and added all the ones I omitted from my resume. It didn't look at all like just half my resume.

[clovis]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

Are you referring to the URM/LGBT packet?

[sanibella]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

Are you referring to the URM/LGBT packet?

Oh, if you are referring to that, disregard my pp.

[clovis]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

Are you referring to the URM/LGBT packet?

Oh, if you are referring to that, disregard my pp.

Wait, Sanibella, do you mean that you received a different packet, not the URM/LGBT packet, and that, having researched this other packet, you found that it doesn't mean anything? But that it still may be possible that the URM/LGBT packet does mean something?

[icantwait]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

Are you referring to the URM/LGBT packet?

Oh, if you are referring to that, disregard my pp.

Wait, Sanibella, do you mean that you received a different packet, not the URM/LGBT packet, and that, having researched this other packet, you found that it doesn't mean anything? But that it still may be possible that the URM/LGBT packet does mean something?

Yes - please expand. I also received the URM/LGBT packet. Catch is I'm not LGBT or URM. I am Hispanic but not PR or MA. Does this mean I could still get a potential bump?

[clovis]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

Are you referring to the URM/LGBT packet?

Oh, if you are referring to that, disregard my pp.

Wait, Sanibella, do you mean that you received a different packet, not the URM/LGBT packet, and that, having researched this other packet, you found that it doesn't mean anything? But that it still may be possible that the URM/LGBT packet does mean something?

Yes - please expand. I also received the URM/LGBT packet. Catch is I'm not LGBT or URM. I am Hispanic but not PR or MA. Does this mean I could still get a potential bump?

icantwait--While I am still unsure of whether the URM/LGBT packet really means anything, I would guess that, if it does mean anything to anyone, it would mean something to you, as long as you accurately filled out your info for the Candidate Referral Service. Yale is using that information to decide whom to include in this mailing. Remember of course for Yale, though, that diversity is about perspective as much as it is about the fact of one's ethnicity.

[sanibella]

Did anyone get a big packet in the mail from Yale too? I was surprised to get it since my numbers are low:

167/3.65 but top eng program in the country. plus WE and an MS.

Is the college activities section a half resume with JUST college activities/gpa?

I feel like I need to split my resume into college and post college.

Are you referring to the URM/LGBT packet?

Oh, if you are referring to that, disregard my pp.

Yes, that exactly. I received mine awhile ago and it was not specific to URM nor LGBT.

Wait, Sanibella, do you mean that you received a different packet, not the URM/LGBT packet, and that, having researched this other packet, you found that it doesn't mean anything? But that it still may be possible that the URM/LGBT packet does mean something?

[icantwait]

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[hindo]

Has anyone else gotten an email from YLS student? I feel bad for not having applied yet but my 250 essay is horrible

[lunixer]

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[oliverotis]

Has anyone else gotten an email from YLS student? I feel bad for not having applied yet but my 250 essay is horrible

Don't write something new. Just take your diversity statement and dramatically shorten it since you're not using it for Yale anyway.

This is horrible advice

[lunixer]

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[oliverotis]

Has anyone else gotten an email from YLS student? I feel bad for not having applied yet but my 250 essay is horrible

Don't write something new. Just take your diversity statement and dramatically shorten it since you're not using it for Yale anyway.

This is horrible advice

It's great advice and turned out very well and is also what my consultant asked me to do. Instead of just throwing shade why don't you give your advice?

Sorry, the 250 is supposed to be a unique, self-contained, cohesive essay, seems unlikely that an abridged DS would successfully fit that style. Obviously possible, but it doesn't seem like good advice in general. Seems like better advice would be to find a topic you find intellectually stimulating, maybe philosophically or ethically complex, and argue a position. There are a lot of ways to write a 250, I just don't think "shorten your DS" is going to be a good formula for most people. That said, if you're admitted (esp with your numbers) I will gladly eat my words

[jetsfan1]

Seems like there are about 65 members who aren't admins/deferrals. Almost half of those seem to have joined this past weekend, indicating there was a wave that we missed here (unless I missed something).

Thanks! Maybe the first batch of completed faculty reviews came in. YLS didn't tweet, but it could be that they only tweet before phone calls and not if they send out admission emails only.

Not sure how the Facebook group works, but if one needs to be approved, then I'd assume the joins this past weekend were due to the office getting around to approving new members. I don't see anyone on LSN or the spreadsheet indicating they were accepted since December.

That said, there was a set of calls on MLK day last year, so my fingers are crossed for a repeat!

I don't think so - I was in the last wave (in December) and was invited to join right away. I think they're pretty fast. That said, it could be a large group they forgot about or something.

Been thinking a lot about this possible "missed wave" lately, and my biased by irrational hope conclusion is that it's very unlikely they released decisions and it didn't show up on either LSN, their twitter feed, or TLS. I really doubt we would miss an entire wave. Sure, maybe later in the cycle when faculty review is going on and they admit like 2 people in a day. But as of now all the admits are Asha admits, no? And those are 1) waves with more people and 2) likely to be announced on twitter.

My impression is that faculty review doesn't come into play until after the app deadline. In other words, Asha admits her 80-100 and then after the app deadline sends out the chosen files to the profs. They're not sending out files to profs before that right? Cause that would give those who apply in February an advantage. (If they sent out files to profs in January with the Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan apps, then the competition would be lowered for those applying in Feb cause they're only being compared by the profs to other Febers). Correct me if I'm wrong on this analysis, cause I very well might be.

[lunixer]

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[GrayGamut]

Been thinking a lot about this possible "missed wave" lately, and my biased by irrational hope conclusion is that it's very unlikely they released decisions and it didn't show up on either LSN, their twitter feed, or TLS. I really doubt we would miss an entire wave. Sure, maybe later in the cycle when faculty review is going on and they admit like 2 people in a day. But as of now all the admits are Asha admits, no? And those are 1) waves with more people and 2) likely to be announced on twitter

Let's go with this bc I don't want to live in a world without reliable Asha tweets.

[EnderWiggin]

My impression is that faculty review doesn't come into play until after the app deadline. In other words, Asha admits her 80-100 and then after the app deadline sends out the chosen files to the profs. They're not sending out files to profs before that right? Cause that would give those who apply in February an advantage. (If they sent out files to profs in January with the Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan apps, then the competition would be lowered for those applying in Feb cause they're only being compared by the profs to other Febers). Correct me if I'm wrong on this analysis, cause I very well might be.

This post from the 203 Blog suggests that faculty review admits and presumptive admits from Asha are admitted both early and late in the process. We might infer that more (even most?) faculty review admits indeed come later in the process but we don't have a sense of what that scale looks like exactly. Excerpted below:

"There is no correlation between when you are admitted and whether you were a presumptive admit or read by faculty (I really don't see why this would make any difference once you are admitted, but anyway). Both I and the members of the faculty are reading files from early fall into April. So, it's entirely possible for an application to make it through a round of three faculty readers by December, just as it is possible for me to admit someone directly in the spring (it would be kind of odd, wouldn't it, if a must-have applicant applied on February 15 and I had no choice but to send the person to the faculty gamble?). In fact, I believe two years ago the very very very last file I read was a presumptive admit. Again: your chances of admission remain the same regardless of when you apply."

[jetsfan1]

My impression is that faculty review doesn't come into play until after the app deadline. In other words, Asha admits her 80-100 and then after the app deadline sends out the chosen files to the profs. They're not sending out files to profs before that right? Cause that would give those who apply in February an advantage. (If they sent out files to profs in January with the Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan apps, then the competition would be lowered for those applying in Feb cause they're only being compared by the profs to other Febers). Correct me if I'm wrong on this analysis, cause I very well might be.

This post from the 203 Blog suggests that faculty review admits and presumptive admits from Asha are admitted both early and late in the process. We might infer that more (even most?) faculty review admits indeed come later in the process but we don't have a sense of what that scale looks like exactly. Excerpted below:

"There is no correlation between when you are admitted and whether you were a presumptive admit or read by faculty (I really don't see why this would make any difference once you are admitted, but anyway). Both I and the members of the faculty are reading files from early fall into April. So, it's entirely possible for an application to make it through a round of three faculty readers by December, just as it is possible for me to admit someone directly in the spring (it would be kind of odd, wouldn't it, if a must-have applicant applied on February 15 and I had no choice but to send the person to the faculty gamble?). In fact, I believe two years ago the very very very last file I read was a presumptive admit. Again: your chances of admission remain the same regardless of when you apply."

Huh, yeah your definitely right on that. The thing I would love to know is how the apps sent to a certain professor are grouped. For instance, if its true that profs are reading apps from "early fall" onwards (which I think it is safe to assume means by the latest the end of November) that of course means in the faculty review process at that point they are only competing against other early apps.

TL;DR Since if you go to faculty review the group you are sent along with is crucially important (since you are being compared directly against them), how does YLS ensure that each different group has the same level of "difficulty"?

Sorry if no one cares about my ultimately useless ruminating. You can feel free to tell me to stop no hard feelings

[salander]

TL;DR Since if you go to faculty review the group you are sent along with is crucially important (since you are being compared directly against them), how does YLS ensure that each different group has the same level of "difficulty"?

Sorry if no one cares about my ultimately useless ruminating. You can feel free to tell me to stop no hard feelings

In other words, can this black box get any more black box-y?

And please don't stop. More ruminating = higher page counts for Yale! Hooray!

[texasellewoods]

TL;DR Since if you go to faculty review the group you are sent along with is crucially important (since you are being compared directly against them), how does YLS ensure that each different group has the same level of "difficulty"?

Sorry if no one cares about my ultimately useless ruminating. You can feel free to tell me to stop no hard feelings

In other words, can this black box get any more black box-y?

And please don't stop. More ruminating = higher page counts for Yale! Hooray!

All the ruminating is making me want to apply! Only applied to HS because Y seemed like too much of a stretch for a KJD with average softs (although one is quite unique and has been generating a lot of interest in interviews, it certainly isn't Y level prestigious). I've been stalking the thread a bit and now I'm wondering if it would be worth it.. the 250 seems killer and I'm super poor atm.

[salander]

All the ruminating is making me want to apply! Only applied to HS because Y seemed like too much of a stretch for a KJD with average softs (although one is quite unique and has been generating a lot of interest in interviews, it certainly isn't Y level prestigious). I've been stalking the thread a bit and now I'm wondering if it would be worth it.. the 250 seems killer and I'm super poor atm.

You should definitely apply! What if you regret this years down the road? Elle Woods should have gone to Yale

[texasellewoods]

All the ruminating is making me want to apply! Only applied to HS because Y seemed like too much of a stretch for a KJD with average softs (although one is quite unique and has been generating a lot of interest in interviews, it certainly isn't Y level prestigious). I've been stalking the thread a bit and now I'm wondering if it would be worth it.. the 250 seems killer and I'm super poor atm.

You should definitely apply! What if you regret this years down the road? Elle Woods should have gone to Yale

Elle didn't need backups - she was going to Harvard!
But in all seriousness... do KJDs stand a chance? Y seems like the one school that dgaf about my numbers and the rest of my app is normal since I haven't had time for much else.

[Hildegard15]

All the ruminating is making me want to apply! Only applied to HS because Y seemed like too much of a stretch for a KJD with average softs (although one is quite unique and has been generating a lot of interest in interviews, it certainly isn't Y level prestigious). I've been stalking the thread a bit and now I'm wondering if it would be worth it.. the 250 seems killer and I'm super poor atm.

You should definitely apply! What if you regret this years down the road? Elle Woods should have gone to Yale

You should def apply. What do you have to lose?! And besides, if you get in and decide to go there, you can send an email to HLS asking them to take pity on me....

[salander]

All the ruminating is making me want to apply! Only applied to HS because Y seemed like too much of a stretch for a KJD with average softs (although one is quite unique and has been generating a lot of interest in interviews, it certainly isn't Y level prestigious). I've been stalking the thread a bit and now I'm wondering if it would be worth it.. the 250 seems killer and I'm super poor atm.

You should definitely apply! What if you regret this years down the road? Elle Woods should have gone to Yale

Elle didn't need backups - she was going to Harvard!
But in all seriousness... do KJDs stand a chance? Y seems like the one school that dgaf about my numbers and the rest of my app is normal since I haven't had time for much else.

I suspect there's more to your app than is immediately apparent. Yes, KJDs do stand a chance. Just take a look at this year's 1L class. Over a fifth came straight from undergrad.

[lemonparty]

All the ruminating is making me want to apply! Only applied to HS because Y seemed like too much of a stretch for a KJD with average softs (although one is quite unique and has been generating a lot of interest in interviews, it certainly isn't Y level prestigious). I've been stalking the thread a bit and now I'm wondering if it would be worth it.. the 250 seems killer and I'm super poor atm.

Definitely do it! I'm KJD and my numbers aren't as high as yours but I figured why not, you'll never know if you don't try! I think you def have a shot!