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Best of luck!scottidsntknow wrote:WUSTL will survive.
But yes, for those that don't know, I will be transferring to GULC in the fall. WUSTL is a great school and provided me with lots of opportunities and I had a great time during 1L. I didn't attend WUSTL planning to transfer, but after first semester grades came out I became interested in leaving. Despite knowing better, I was biglaw or bust, and realized that transferring would be my best bet for biglaw with good but not exceptional grades. I wouldn't advise most people to transfer up so slightly from WUSTL to GULC, but I'm actually transferring to GULC specifically for health reasons. If anyone has any questions about this feel free to post/PM.
Good luck over there, @scottidsntknow! My best wishesscottidsntknow wrote:WUSTL will survive.
But yes, for those that don't know, I will be transferring to GULC in the fall. WUSTL is a great school and provided me with lots of opportunities and I had a great time during 1L. I didn't attend WUSTL planning to transfer, but after first semester grades came out I became interested in leaving. Despite knowing better, I was biglaw or bust, and realized that transferring would be my best bet for biglaw with good but not exceptional grades. I wouldn't advise most people to transfer up so slightly from WUSTL to GULC, but I'm actually transferring to GULC specifically for health reasons. If anyone has any questions about this feel free to post/PM.
Good luck at GULC Scotti! Thanks for all the help you gave in this thread!scottidsntknow wrote:WUSTL will survive.
But yes, for those that don't know, I will be transferring to GULC in the fall. WUSTL is a great school and provided me with lots of opportunities and I had a great time during 1L. I didn't attend WUSTL planning to transfer, but after first semester grades came out I became interested in leaving. Despite knowing better, I was biglaw or bust, and realized that transferring would be my best bet for biglaw with good but not exceptional grades. I wouldn't advise most people to transfer up so slightly from WUSTL to GULC, but I'm actually transferring to GULC specifically for health reasons. If anyone has any questions about this feel free to post/PM.
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Best of luck. WUSTL certainly won't be the same, although GULC gained a hell of a human.scottidsntknow wrote:WUSTL will survive.
But yes, for those that don't know, I will be transferring to GULC in the fall. WUSTL is a great school and provided me with lots of opportunities and I had a great time during 1L. I didn't attend WUSTL planning to transfer, but after first semester grades came out I became interested in leaving. Despite knowing better, I was biglaw or bust, and realized that transferring would be my best bet for biglaw with good but not exceptional grades. I wouldn't advise most people to transfer up so slightly from WUSTL to GULC, but I'm actually transferring to GULC specifically for health reasons. If anyone has any questions about this feel free to post/PM.
ljllegit wrote:Just curious, do you guys think that the "cream rises to the top" at Wash U?
If so, who (background and characteristics, not names) do you consider to be in the "cream" clique?
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Yeah I think so. All the people I know who did really well, like top 5%, are people you aren't surprised about their being there. They are all really smart and they all worked really hard. I think to do that well you have to be both of those things. You can do well lacking one of the other, but not really well, imo. Now, I don't know who all is top 5%, but of the ones I do know, they are all very smart and work very hard. You could probably be lacking in one of the two (either very smart or very hardworking) and make up for it to an extent with the other, but probably not to the extent that lands you in the top 5%.legit wrote:Just curious, do you guys think that the "cream rises to the top" at Wash U?
If so, who (background and characteristics, not names) do you consider to be in the "cream" clique?
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Yeah I don't think law school grading is random, moreso I think who has the skill of writing law school exams well can be random.LET'S GET IT wrote:Yeah I think so. All the people I know who did really well, like top 5%, are people you aren't surprised about their being there. They are all really smart and they all worked really hard. I think to do that well you have to be both of those things. You can do well lacking one of the other, but not really well, imo. Now, I don't know who all is top 5%, but of the ones I do know, they are all very smart and work very hard. You could probably be lacking in one of the two (either very smart or very hardworking) and make up for it to an extent with the other, but probably not to the extent that lands you in the top 5%.legit wrote:Just curious, do you guys think that the "cream rises to the top" at Wash U?
If so, who (background and characteristics, not names) do you consider to be in the "cream" clique?
And I can already hear people screaming that law school grading is random, but that's only maybe true in the middle of the curve. The 10% at either end I don't think is random at all and would be the same almost regardless of anything else.
I agree. Being smart doesn't automatically translate into being good at law school, but it definitely helps.scottidsntknow wrote:Yeah I don't think law school grading is random, moreso I think who has the skill of writing law school exams well can be random.LET'S GET IT wrote:Yeah I think so. All the people I know who did really well, like top 5%, are people you aren't surprised about their being there. They are all really smart and they all worked really hard. I think to do that well you have to be both of those things. You can do well lacking one of the other, but not really well, imo. Now, I don't know who all is top 5%, but of the ones I do know, they are all very smart and work very hard. You could probably be lacking in one of the two (either very smart or very hardworking) and make up for it to an extent with the other, but probably not to the extent that lands you in the top 5%.legit wrote:Just curious, do you guys think that the "cream rises to the top" at Wash U?
If so, who (background and characteristics, not names) do you consider to be in the "cream" clique?
And I can already hear people screaming that law school grading is random, but that's only maybe true in the middle of the curve. The 10% at either end I don't think is random at all and would be the same almost regardless of anything else.
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Scotti have you already done OCI? I thought OCI was usually later? Or did you land your job another way?scottidsntknow wrote:Law school is a gamble though, and honestly I'd think long and hard about it depending on your goals at WUSTL. I loved the school and got my dream job, but you really should be content with the job prospects of a median WUSTL student if you go there.
I'm a bit of an anomaly. I got a 1L SA for this summer, developed health problems which have kept me from working, but the firm has been great and made me a 2L offer early which I accepted.LadyProspero wrote:Scotti have you already done OCI? I thought OCI was usually later? Or did you land your job another way?scottidsntknow wrote:Law school is a gamble though, and honestly I'd think long and hard about it depending on your goals at WUSTL. I loved the school and got my dream job, but you really should be content with the job prospects of a median WUSTL student if you go there.
Either way though, congrats! It would feel great to have a job lined up coming out of 1L.
That's awesome (that the firm offered and worked with you, not the health problems). Congrats on the great outcome!scottidsntknow wrote:I'm a bit of an anomaly. I got a 1L SA for this summer, developed health problems which have kept me from working, but the firm has been great and made me a 2L offer early which I accepted.LadyProspero wrote:Scotti have you already done OCI? I thought OCI was usually later? Or did you land your job another way?scottidsntknow wrote:Law school is a gamble though, and honestly I'd think long and hard about it depending on your goals at WUSTL. I loved the school and got my dream job, but you really should be content with the job prospects of a median WUSTL student if you go there.
Either way though, congrats! It would feel great to have a job lined up coming out of 1L.
Thanks. Honestly I cared much more about the job than the health problems, so I'm happy. But again a lot of this was luck and I had good enough grades first semester to get the job. Tbf though I was surprised by how many people in my class got 1L SAs. There are quite a few spots at STL firms (if you have good grades and strong STL ties generally, otherwise there were a few diversity kids with little/no ties and not top grades that also got them), but also several friends that had both good grades and diversity got 1L SAs, usually in their home markets. No one from any school should expect to land a 1L SA, but if you are diverse and do well first semester, you really should try.LadyProspero wrote:That's awesome (that the firm offered and worked with you, not the health problems). Congrats on the great outcome!scottidsntknow wrote:I'm a bit of an anomaly. I got a 1L SA for this summer, developed health problems which have kept me from working, but the firm has been great and made me a 2L offer early which I accepted.LadyProspero wrote:Scotti have you already done OCI? I thought OCI was usually later? Or did you land your job another way?scottidsntknow wrote:Law school is a gamble though, and honestly I'd think long and hard about it depending on your goals at WUSTL. I loved the school and got my dream job, but you really should be content with the job prospects of a median WUSTL student if you go there.
Either way though, congrats! It would feel great to have a job lined up coming out of 1L.
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At least 5% of the class ended up with one, probably closer to 10%. The people I know were generally top 10-20%, and maybe someone else can speak to what usually landed the STL firms, which was probably similar. I was only top 25% and got a 1L SA in a large east coast market where I had ties.RareExports wrote:If you had to estimate--what fraction of those who wanted a 1L SA were able to get one? Are these all/mostly to STL firms? And can it be done without diversity/STL ties?
ETA: Obviously it can be done. And obviously top 5% puts you in great running. I'm wondering more about 10%, 20%, 25%, etc.
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