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What Stage are you at?

No JS1
62
42%
Pre-Waitlist JS1
30
20%
Post-Waitlist JS1
14
9%
Pre-Waitlist JS1 and Rejection
0
No votes
Pre-Waitlist JS1 and JS1b
2
1%
Pre-Waitlist JS1 and JS2
17
11%
Rejection
3
2%
Post Waitlist JS1 Rejection
1
1%
Post Waitlist JS1 and JS2
20
13%
 
Total votes: 149

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by leslieknope » Thu May 07, 2015 4:25 am

Hikari wrote: So there are no interview slots? I can't sleep here.
I counted and there are 46 interview slots open next week, so I bet a big wave is coming in the next day or two. Good luck, guys!

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by qwertyTLS » Thu May 07, 2015 5:05 am

46?!?! that's a lot. i remember in the regular thread a few months ago a busy week for interviews was around 50. this is awesome. i HOPE it means they expect to have to dig deep into the waitlist this year...

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by andthenIwaslike » Thu May 07, 2015 5:15 am

qwertyTLS wrote:46?!?! that's a lot. i remember in the regular thread a few months ago a busy week for interviews was around 50. this is awesome. i HOPE it means they expect to have to dig deep into the waitlist this year...
50 interviews or 50 slots? Not to be that person parsing everything way too deeply (too late), but they must open up way more slots than interview offers they extend, since most people have jobs and school and stuff and would need options for scheduling.

Although, it is Harvard...

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by qwertyTLS » Thu May 07, 2015 5:24 am

andthenIwaslike wrote:
qwertyTLS wrote:46?!?! that's a lot. i remember in the regular thread a few months ago a busy week for interviews was around 50. this is awesome. i HOPE it means they expect to have to dig deep into the waitlist this year...
50 interviews or 50 slots? Not to be that person parsing everything way too deeply (too late), but they must open up way more slots than interview offers they extend, since most people have jobs and school and stuff and would need options for scheduling.

Although, it is Harvard...
I could be wrong, but I thought it was slots. i'm not sure how people would have been able to find out how many interviews were actually conducted, but they could see the number of slots available (similar to now)

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by Hikari » Thu May 07, 2015 12:07 pm

Do JS1 go out on Thursdays? Or Fridays only?

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by MustaphaMond » Thu May 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Mack.Hambleton wrote:
Eladriel wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:
mimiquestionmark wrote:Interview slots open for every day next week. I don't know when they went up but I noticed them earlier this evening.
STOP PLAYING WITH US HARVARD
U need to calm down bro
I c what I did there
lololol

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by MustaphaMond » Thu May 07, 2015 12:29 pm

Hikari wrote:Do JS1 go out on Thursdays? Or Fridays only?
Can't answer that -- indeterminable during the regular cycle (they've gone out on both Thurs and on Fri, and on other days), and I think that, now that we're on to the WL, data from the regular cycle is not informative anyways. Probably a high likelihood that it'll come out this week though. Maybe reasonable to guess that they're coming tomorrow, since it's 12:30 EST already and JS1s usually come out in the morning (but, as I said, I don't know if what they "usually" do is relevant at this point). Or could be Monday, who knows.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by trynalaw123 » Thu May 07, 2015 12:42 pm

MustaphaMond wrote:
Hikari wrote:Do JS1 go out on Thursdays? Or Fridays only?
Can't answer that -- indeterminable during the regular cycle (they've gone out on both Thurs and on Fri, and on other days), and I think that, now that we're on to the WL, data from the regular cycle is not informative anyways. Probably a high likelihood that it'll come out this week though. Maybe reasonable to guess that they're coming tomorrow, since it's 12:30 EST already and JS1s usually come out in the morning (but, as I said, I don't know if what they "usually" do is relevant at this point). Or could be Monday, who knows.
I agree, but I would hope they would send at least some out before Monday since there are interview slots open for that day

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by Four Winds » Thu May 07, 2015 12:43 pm

I'm going to stick with assuming they are coming out Literally Never to protect my heart.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by Comma.Split » Thu May 07, 2015 12:45 pm

Four Winds wrote:I'm going to stick with assuming they are coming out Literally Never to protect my heart.
Here's to WL--->JS2.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by everton125 » Thu May 07, 2015 1:31 pm

everton125 wrote:I am trying to assess what kind of financial aid I should expect from Harvard before deciding whether or not to withdraw from the waitlist, and I just want to make sure I understand what Harvard means by "protect 50% of the value of these assets" in the language below. Do they mean that if a student has money in a retirement account, they only expect the student to contribute 50% of the total value of that account towards paying for Harvard? So, for example, if you have $20,000 in your retirement account, then the expected student contribution would only go up by $10,000 rather than $20,000?

Personally, if I am understanding this correctly, I think this is pretty much straight BS, as I don't think they should be assessing my retirement account at all in determining my expected student contribution, particularly considering Harvard's massive endowment. If I am being charitable, I suppose they are trying to prevent people from throwing all their savings into retirement accounts in order to decrease expected student contributions, when they otherwise would not have moved that money into their retirement account at all. Regardless, I am not a fan, and not just because it screws me over a bit.

**Retirement Assets

Retirement assets (401K, 403B, IRA, Roth IRA, and any other type of retirement account) are treated somewhat differently from other assets. We ask that you report the total current value of any retirement assets regardless of their type. We do, however, protect 50% of the value of these assets in recognition of the fact that their liquidation may incur an additional tax burden and/or penalties for early withdrawal of these funds. More importantly, we strongly encourage our students to save for retirement and believe that this type of asset protection is in keeping with that philosophy.
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EDIT: Also, to clarify, despite Harvard avoiding outright mentioning liabilities in the below description (such as, e.g., mortgages and debt, though the former may be captured in home equity for all I know), for the purpose of calculating parental contribution, net worth is the total of all the below minus all liabilities, correct?

•your parents’ net worth (from all investments excluding savings in qualified retirement accounts, plus home equity, plus other savings, trusts, business value, and real estate equity) falls within the range typical for the HLS Grant recipient population, which is $0 to $500,000
Hi all,

So I called the financial aid office, and I confirmed (1) that my above understanding of how they assess retirement accounts in determining student contributions is accurate; (2) Harvard does take into account liabilities when determining parental net worth, despite lacking language to that effect; and (3) the medians for parental contributions for each income range are for each year, not all three years combined.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by kamehameha » Thu May 07, 2015 2:08 pm

is it even possible to go WL-->JS2 without a JS1?

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by qwertyTLS » Thu May 07, 2015 2:19 pm

kamehameha wrote:is it even possible to go WL-->JS2 without a JS1?
nope :P

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by RandomDude » Thu May 07, 2015 2:20 pm

kamehameha wrote:is it even possible to go WL-->JS2 without a JS1?
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/admissions ... wait-list/
ARE INTERVIEWS OFFERRED TO STUDENTS WHO ARE ON THE WAIT LIST?
Yes. To be admitted to HLS, students must complete an interview. The interview remains by invitation only. We will continue to interview students throughout the summer as we finalize the class.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by andthenIwaslike » Thu May 07, 2015 2:28 pm

qwertyTLS wrote:
andthenIwaslike wrote:
qwertyTLS wrote:46?!?! that's a lot. i remember in the regular thread a few months ago a busy week for interviews was around 50. this is awesome. i HOPE it means they expect to have to dig deep into the waitlist this year...
50 interviews or 50 slots? Not to be that person parsing everything way too deeply (too late), but they must open up way more slots than interview offers they extend, since most people have jobs and school and stuff and would need options for scheduling.

Although, it is Harvard...
I could be wrong, but I thought it was slots. i'm not sure how people would have been able to find out how many interviews were actually conducted, but they could see the number of slots available (similar to now)
I thought maybe it was self-reported on TLS, people reporting that they'd done interviews and someone tallying it. I'm pretty sure that was being done at some point.

But at any rate, I'm going to have to agree that the most likely scenario is that the slots disappear again tomorrow and reappear Literally Never.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by calmboat » Thu May 07, 2015 2:39 pm

JS1!

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by mccartney11 » Thu May 07, 2015 2:46 pm

calmboat wrote:JS1!
Congratulations and godspeed! I had my JS1 in January and, once it started, it wasn't nearly as nerve-racking as I was expecting it to be.

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by Hikari » Thu May 07, 2015 2:47 pm

calmboat wrote:JS1!
For real?

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by qwertyTLS » Thu May 07, 2015 2:48 pm

andthenIwaslike wrote:I thought maybe it was self-reported on TLS, people reporting that they'd done interviews and someone tallying it. I'm pretty sure that was being done at some point.
no you're also right, there were two sets of data being tallied for the number of interviews. 1 via the interview portal, counting available slots, and the other by interview invitations reported in the thread

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by Hikari » Thu May 07, 2015 2:48 pm

calmboat wrote:JS1!
Congrats!!!

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by The thinker » Thu May 07, 2015 2:50 pm

Ah neurotic email checking, my old friend, you return

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by qwertyTLS » Thu May 07, 2015 2:51 pm

wow alright, here we go - congrats, and good luck everyone!

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Post by Mack.Hambleton » Thu May 07, 2015 2:52 pm

JS1 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Harvard Law School c/o 2018 Waitlist

Post by Hikari » Thu May 07, 2015 2:54 pm

The thinker wrote:Ah neurotic email checking, my old friend, you return
Lol same here.
Can't go back to PT'in now.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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