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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Comma.Split » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:45 pm

ek5dn wrote:
HorseThief wrote:
dreamandy wrote:Any idea as to when the next js1 wave will be?
Went complete early december, not a peep since then- i can't handle the suspense anymore! :(
Probably not for a while. There are still 12 slots open for this week, but no other openings in the future.
:(((( Complete 2/12 and silence since (I know that's not too long, but I keep holding my breath for a JS1)
Any speculations on why they're rejecting some and not others without JS1s?
A) The bloodbath will continue and we are just (un)lucky to be at the bottom of the pile.
B) Potential WL candidates
C) They are being very careful and slow on purpose to keep all options open in case the medians get shaky.
D) It means we are in for sure, so go open a bottle of the fanciest Champaign you got.

Pick whichever you like. My guess is A but my hope is with B.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by whosinthehousejc » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:00 pm

HorseThief wrote:
dreamandy wrote:Any idea as to when the next js1 wave will be?
Went complete early december, not a peep since then- i can't handle the suspense anymore! :(
Probably not for a while. There are still 12 slots open for this week, but no other openings in the future.
So how do we reconcile this ~600 JS1s-to-date figure + the approx. 1000-1200 JS1s necessary to yield ~800-900 admits & ~570 matriculating with the fact that it looks like we've passed the final big JS1 wave?

I think this data suggests there has to be more big JS1 waves on the way, and that this cycle could go well into April.

Or our JS1-to-date data is off, which I doubt. HorseThief is a pro.

Thoughts?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by nosocat » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:08 pm

Comma.Split wrote:
ek5dn wrote::(((( Complete 2/12 and silence since (I know that's not too long, but I keep holding my breath for a JS1)
Any speculations on why they're rejecting some and not others without JS1s?
A) The bloodbath will continue and we are just (un)lucky to be at the bottom of the pile.
B) Potential WL candidates
C) They are being very careful and slow on purpose to keep all options open in case the medians get shaky.

Pick whichever you like. My guess is A but my hope is with B.
There's likely a mixture of all three of those among us still waiting, but there's also option D) More JS1s will be scheduled and they just haven't set up the time slots yet.

e: Hey, where'd that other option D come from? Whatever, close enough. Champagne for all!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Comma.Split » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:22 pm

nosocat wrote:
Comma.Split wrote:
ek5dn wrote::(((( Complete 2/12 and silence since (I know that's not too long, but I keep holding my breath for a JS1)
Any speculations on why they're rejecting some and not others without JS1s?
A) The bloodbath will continue and we are just (un)lucky to be at the bottom of the pile.
B) Potential WL candidates
C) They are being very careful and slow on purpose to keep all options open in case the medians get shaky.

Pick whichever you like. My guess is A but my hope is with B.
There's likely a mixture of all three of those among us still waiting, but there's also option D) More JS1s will be scheduled and they just haven't set up the time slots yet.
The question is why spend time on sending out rejections right now when you can focus on JS1s? Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on picking people for JS1s to give yourself more time to select JS2s among the JS1s? But instead, they chose to send out rejections, which, from what I understand (I have very limited understanding skills), can certainly clear some space on your desk, but doesn't really do much in terms of forming a class.

It is also possible that they want to cut the corners before they start looking at the borderline candidates. But that also doesn't make sense because there are dozens of people with stellar numbers who have been rejected. I am sure there is a good reason for what they are doing. We are just missing a crucial piece of the puzzle and that's why we can't put it all together.
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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by HorseThief » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:29 pm

whosinthehousejc wrote:
HorseThief wrote:
dreamandy wrote:Any idea as to when the next js1 wave will be?
Went complete early december, not a peep since then- i can't handle the suspense anymore! :(
Probably not for a while. There are still 12 slots open for this week, but no other openings in the future.
So how do we reconcile this ~600 JS1s-to-date figure + the approx. 1000-1200 JS1s necessary to yield ~800-900 admits & ~570 matriculating with the fact that it looks like we've passed the final big JS1 wave?

I think this data suggests there has to be more big JS1 waves on the way, and that this cycle could go well into April.

Or our JS1-to-date data is off, which I doubt. HorseThief is a pro.

Thoughts?
If there is a flaw in our theory, I think this is it. There's no way my count has been accurate. I feel like I must have missed a few hundred somehow.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Four Winds » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:31 pm

Comma.Split wrote: The question is why spend time on sending out rejections right now when you can focus on JS1s? Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on picking people for JS1s to give yourself more time to select JS2s among the JS1s? But instead, they chose to send out rejections, which, from what I understand (I have very limited understanding skills), can certainly clear some space on your desk, but doesn't really do much in terms of forming a class.

It is also possible that they want to cut the corners before they start looking at the borderline candidates. But that also doesn't make sense because there are dozens of people with stellar numbers who have been rejected. I am sure there is a good reason for what they are doing. We are just missing a crucial piece of the puzzle and that's why we can't put it all together.
From what I can tell the dings with stellar numbers are all post-JS1 rejections, which to me means something happened after the file moved to faculty review. So far all of the non-JS1 dings I've seen have been some combination of LSAT < 170 and/or GPA < 3.7.

This is gathered purely from observation of LSN and is mostly wild speculation.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Comma.Split » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:35 pm

Four Winds wrote:
Comma.Split wrote: The question is why spend time on sending out rejections right now when you can focus on JS1s? Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on picking people for JS1s to give yourself more time to select JS2s among the JS1s? But instead, they chose to send out rejections, which, from what I understand (I have very limited understanding skills), can certainly clear some space on your desk, but doesn't really do much in terms of forming a class.

It is also possible that they want to cut the corners before they start looking at the borderline candidates. But that also doesn't make sense because there are dozens of people with stellar numbers who have been rejected. I am sure there is a good reason for what they are doing. We are just missing a crucial piece of the puzzle and that's why we can't put it all together.
From what I can tell the dings with stellar numbers are all post-JS1 rejections, which to me means something happened after the file moved to faculty review. So far all of the non-JS1 dings I've seen have been some combination of LSAT < 170 and/or GPA < 3.7.

This is gathered purely from observation of LSN and is mostly wild speculation.
Assuming your wild speculations are true, my second theory fits perfectly. More corner cutting to come then.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by rseaney » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:37 pm

important to consider the administrative convenience of having exclusive lists too, yknow? like if they want to set up a JS2 wave with, say, 230 acceptances soon, it makes sense that they go thru their batch of ~300 post-JS1 folk and weed out the ones they don't want. That way (all guesses) JS has an exclusive and exhaustive list of who she's calling that day.

in that light it makes sense to ding (make a decision about) the post-JS1s ASAP, because they require the most discernment.
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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by rseaney » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:40 pm

Comma.Split wrote:
nosocat wrote:
Comma.Split wrote:
ek5dn wrote::(((( Complete 2/12 and silence since (I know that's not too long, but I keep holding my breath for a JS1)
Any speculations on why they're rejecting some and not others without JS1s?
A) The bloodbath will continue and we are just (un)lucky to be at the bottom of the pile.
B) Potential WL candidates
C) They are being very careful and slow on purpose to keep all options open in case the medians get shaky.

Pick whichever you like. My guess is A but my hope is with B.
There's likely a mixture of all three of those among us still waiting, but there's also option D) More JS1s will be scheduled and they just haven't set up the time slots yet.
The question is why spend time on sending out rejections right now when you can focus on JS1s? Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on picking people for JS1s to give yourself more time to select JS2s among the JS1s? But instead, they chose to send out rejections, which, from what I understand (I have very limited understanding skills), can certainly clear some space on your desk, but doesn't really do much in terms of forming a class.

It is also possible that they want to cut the corners before they start looking at the borderline candidates. But that also doesn't make sense because there are dozens of people with stellar numbers who have been rejected. I am sure there is a good reason for what they are doing. We are just missing a crucial piece of the puzzle and that's why we can't put it all together.
plus i don't think it's too demanding to issue the rejection once the decision has been rendered. pretty much just involves queuing up their email (i'd suspect) so i don't think it's necessarily a bad use of time or anything.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by FloridaCoastalorbust » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:07 pm

Status: Application Complete

Current Status Date: 10/15/2014


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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Auxilio » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:11 pm

I feel like the 173rd page would have been a good mark for Harvard to release a wave of JS2s :)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by wonka » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:45 pm

is it bad juju to ask about the waitlist?

do they waitlist everyone at once? anybody know about when that happens?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by whosinthehousejc » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:01 pm

mwonka wrote:is it bad juju to ask about the waitlist?

do they waitlist everyone at once? anybody know about when that happens?
~April 1 and pretty much.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by wonka » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:06 pm

whosinthehousejc wrote:
mwonka wrote:is it bad juju to ask about the waitlist?

do they waitlist everyone at once? anybody know about when that happens?
~April 1 and pretty much.
thank you!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by DiniMae » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:10 pm

af0890 wrote:do they WL people who didn't interview?
They did last year.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by meyer5541 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:13 pm

All wait lists occur on April 1?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by whompwhomp » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:15 pm

meyer5541 wrote:All wait lists occur on April 1?
if you look at the LSN data from last year, there was a huge WL wave on 3/28 and then a mixed bag of WL/acceptances/dings trickled out the few days after.

http://harvard.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants/1314

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ub3r » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:40 pm

Sometimes I feel like complaining about the lack of application progress.

Then I see posts like this.
FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Status: Application Complete

Current Status Date: 10/15/2014


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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Mack.Hambleton » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:07 pm

curlietop86 wrote:Current Status: Application Complete

Current Status Date: 10/31/2014

sometimes i really like that yale doesn't have a status checker... it gives me one less thing i check repeatedly!
Same, hoping for a WL

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by middlebear » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:18 pm

Complete 10/1. Just amazed I haven't been dinged yet - this is the last one and then my cycle's done.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Oskosh » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:55 pm

But at this point, we can't CONCLUSIVELY say those of us who have been passed over are certain WLs/dings, right? Surely there remain some positive news for some of us.

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Post by Comma.Split » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:14 pm

Oskosh wrote:But at this point, we can't CONCLUSIVELY say those of us who have been passed over are certain WLs/dings, right? Surely there remain some positive news for some of us.
I don't think we can conclusively say anything at this point. However, do you guys (meaning those of us who have been passed over) know anyone on LSN with the exact same/better stats (both LSAT and GPA) AND later complete day who have been rejected? If yes, then I think it may be a good sign. If not, then we can't make ANY conclusions.

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