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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Lasers » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:18 pm

apollo2015 wrote:
Lasers wrote:congrats on everyone who has been admitted and good luck to those waiting/on the waitlist.

your class will be the first to be reduced by around 20% so it seems there will be less acceptances.
They are serious about cutting back on class size this year? I'd expected that to be the kind of thing that would be perpetually postponed.
dean wu is not one to mess around.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by aliceydu » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:24 am

Lasers wrote:
apollo2015 wrote:
Lasers wrote:congrats on everyone who has been admitted and good luck to those waiting/on the waitlist.

your class will be the first to be reduced by around 20% so it seems there will be less acceptances.
They are serious about cutting back on class size this year? I'd expected that to be the kind of thing that would be perpetually postponed.
dean wu is not one to mess around.
I read that in his Strategic Plan. LOL. (My mom would love for me to have a strategic plan, too.) Is that tailored towards improving rankings? Smaller professor to student ratio?

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Lasers » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:04 pm

aliceydu wrote:
Lasers wrote:
apollo2015 wrote:
Lasers wrote:congrats on everyone who has been admitted and good luck to those waiting/on the waitlist.

your class will be the first to be reduced by around 20% so it seems there will be less acceptances.
They are serious about cutting back on class size this year? I'd expected that to be the kind of thing that would be perpetually postponed.
dean wu is not one to mess around.
I read that in his Strategic Plan. LOL. (My mom would love for me to have a strategic plan, too.) Is that tailored towards improving rankings? Smaller professor to student ratio?
yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by ilovesf » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:35 pm

Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.

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Post by ttnguyen » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:36 pm

FYI-just returned home from the Irvine Alumni meet & greet. Met some neat people, got great insight, Dean Wu gives a nice little speech. It was fairly formal--most alums & staff were in suits. Women wore dresses & suits in case anyone's wondering. They provided drinks & some yummy appetizers...but i didn't get to eat since it's hard to eat while conversing...haha. :)

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Lasers » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:44 pm

ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.

i'll just leave it at that.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by splitsplat » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:18 am

Lasers wrote: i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.

i'll just leave it at that.
Don't leave it hanging after a tease like that. Put out.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by calawdude » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:17 am

ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.

Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.

FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Lasers » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:32 pm

calawdude wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.

Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.

FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
to be honest, dean wu is awesome. incredible speaker, and really, really smart. i feel he'll change hastings for the better, but it will take a few years.

i've seen him walking outside hastings in full motorcycle gear, helmet in tow, on his way to the parking lot. great guy.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by bobloblaw'slawblog » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:39 pm

calawdude wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.

Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.

FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
I'm considering Hastings but unfortunately I am working outside of CA right now and cannot attend any of the alumni events / admitted student events.

Would you mind sharing some (or all) of the points Dean Wu made in his speech?

TYia

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by lakers3peat » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:47 pm

wait please go into more detail about LEOP here or PM me about it...


i had no idea what it was but one of my friends messaged me on facebook and asked if I got into hastings via LEOP. I didnt even know what it was, then I looked it up and was all ¿wtf mate?

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by calawdude » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:14 pm

bobloblaw'slawblog wrote:
calawdude wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.

Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.

FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
I'm considering Hastings but unfortunately I am working outside of CA right now and cannot attend any of the alumni events / admitted student events.

Would you mind sharing some (or all) of the points Dean Wu made in his speech?

TYia

ps. go bears(?) !
Sure. FYI: I actually arrived about 50 minutes late (even though I had started driving 3 hours earlier!), so I'm sure I missed some points. Prior to the event, I had already decided I wanted a lot of options when it came time to study abroad. Dean Wu talked about Hastings being very "international" given its student body and its exchange programs with schools overseas. He talked about California being part of the Pacific rim (which is great for trade) and how Hastings students can benefit from this "international" culture. Being able to speak a foreign language is important to me, so I compared the options Hastings had with some other law schools and had already decided on Hastings for this very reason. Also, if you want to get into public service, Hastings is a great place to start because it's centrally located in a big city and the school has a history/culture of community involvement. There will be tons of opportunities and the experience will be invaluable.

Before I sound anymore like a brochure, those of you who were also there, please feel free to chime in. As I had mentioned earlier, I was 50 minutes late. Haha.

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Post by melissaraffalow » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:19 pm

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Post by aarias11 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:46 pm

Lasers wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.

i'll just leave it at that.
I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.

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Post by lawgeekgrl » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:53 pm

aarias11 wrote: I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.
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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by ilovesf » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:04 pm

aarias11 wrote: I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.
:lol:

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Post by calawdude » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:26 pm

Any LEOP admits (or even non-LEOP admits) here interested in organizing and starting some sort of organization for law students from underprivileged backgrounds? I was looking through all the student organizations and all of them seemed to focus on race, ethnicity, or legal interest. It would be nice to get together with people with similar backgrounds.

If there's already an organization like this, please let me know; otherwise, if we start one, our organization might actually be the first of its kind (an organization based on class).

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Post by Robst » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:29 pm

[/quote]
I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.[/quote]
Great. Stuff.

Went to the LA reception. Met some wonderful alumni and the assistant dean of admissions. Had a great time and it really had me liking Hastings. Planning to visit campus soon, hopefully for Admitted Students Day.

-Random dude who is ruining hastings because I was admitted via LEOP

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by aliceydu » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:07 pm

melissaraffalow wrote:I'm creating a facebook group for students who are attending and who will be in the class of 2015. Add me on Facebook if you're definitely attending cause it won't let me create the group without selecting friends!
I just added you~ (I think it's you). I'm not 100% sure about attending yet, but since Davis has a group already, Hastings should have one, too. :)

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Post by apollo2015 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:53 pm

calawdude wrote:Any LEOP admits (or even non-LEOP admits) here interested in organizing and starting some sort of organization for law students from underprivileged backgrounds? I was looking through all the student organizations and all of them seemed to focus on race, ethnicity, or legal interest. It would be nice to get together with people with similar backgrounds.

If there's already an organization like this, please let me know; otherwise, if we start one, our organization might actually be the first of its kind (an organization based on class).
As a non-LEOP admit from a Lower Class background, I like the sound of this.

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Lasers » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:18 am

aarias11 wrote:
Lasers wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.

i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.
i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.

i'll just leave it at that.
I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.
my early bet is on you to be in the top 10% of the class should you attend hastings. your stats indicate you are capable + what LEOP offers... it is borderline unfair. i've heard they scaled back the advantages slightly, but that really doesn't matter.

enjoy your good fortune.
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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Lasers » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:22 am

just to clarify, LEOP is a great program and i'm all for it. my gripe with it is that once school starts, they go a bit too far in providing certain...advantages. they have altered it slightly from what i have heard this semester, so it's a step in the right direction.

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Post by tropicanax » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:31 am

Blumpbeef wrote:
aliceydu wrote:OMG the new law school ranking is out! Hastings dropped two spots to 44 :( Davis also dropped to 29.
US News says employment at graduation 40%... is that a joke?! Davis is at 80-something%.
Ohmygawwwwd...
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... -law-03015
At graduation, not 9 months after.

even if it's not 9 months after... isn't that still sort of concerning? =/ less than half the class have jobs at graduation

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Re: Hastings 2011-2012 Cycle

Post by Pleasye » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:13 am

Lasers wrote:just to clarify, LEOP is a great program and i'm all for it. my gripe with it is that once school starts, they go a bit too far in providing certain...advantages. they have altered it slightly from what i have heard this semester, so it's a step in the right direction.
If you can keep it...non-offensive. I'd like to hear about the advantages that LEOP students are given and why you think it's so unfair.

I didn't apply for the program I'm just asking out of curiosity.

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