dean wu is not one to mess around.apollo2015 wrote:They are serious about cutting back on class size this year? I'd expected that to be the kind of thing that would be perpetually postponed.Lasers wrote:congrats on everyone who has been admitted and good luck to those waiting/on the waitlist.
your class will be the first to be reduced by around 20% so it seems there will be less acceptances.
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I read that in his Strategic Plan. LOL. (My mom would love for me to have a strategic plan, too.) Is that tailored towards improving rankings? Smaller professor to student ratio?Lasers wrote:dean wu is not one to mess around.apollo2015 wrote:They are serious about cutting back on class size this year? I'd expected that to be the kind of thing that would be perpetually postponed.Lasers wrote:congrats on everyone who has been admitted and good luck to those waiting/on the waitlist.
your class will be the first to be reduced by around 20% so it seems there will be less acceptances.
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yes, aimed at improving rankings.aliceydu wrote:I read that in his Strategic Plan. LOL. (My mom would love for me to have a strategic plan, too.) Is that tailored towards improving rankings? Smaller professor to student ratio?Lasers wrote:dean wu is not one to mess around.apollo2015 wrote:They are serious about cutting back on class size this year? I'd expected that to be the kind of thing that would be perpetually postponed.Lasers wrote:congrats on everyone who has been admitted and good luck to those waiting/on the waitlist.
your class will be the first to be reduced by around 20% so it seems there will be less acceptances.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
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Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
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FYI-just returned home from the Irvine Alumni meet & greet. Met some neat people, got great insight, Dean Wu gives a nice little speech. It was fairly formal--most alums & staff were in suits. Women wore dresses & suits in case anyone's wondering. They provided drinks & some yummy appetizers...but i didn't get to eat since it's hard to eat while conversing...haha. 

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i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
i'll just leave it at that.
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Don't leave it hanging after a tease like that. Put out.Lasers wrote: i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.
i'll just leave it at that.
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I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.
FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
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to be honest, dean wu is awesome. incredible speaker, and really, really smart. i feel he'll change hastings for the better, but it will take a few years.calawdude wrote:I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.
FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
i've seen him walking outside hastings in full motorcycle gear, helmet in tow, on his way to the parking lot. great guy.
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I'm considering Hastings but unfortunately I am working outside of CA right now and cannot attend any of the alumni events / admitted student events.calawdude wrote:I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.
FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
Would you mind sharing some (or all) of the points Dean Wu made in his speech?
TYia
ps. go bears(?) !
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wait please go into more detail about LEOP here or PM me about it...
i had no idea what it was but one of my friends messaged me on facebook and asked if I got into hastings via LEOP. I didnt even know what it was, then I looked it up and was all ¿wtf mate?
i had no idea what it was but one of my friends messaged me on facebook and asked if I got into hastings via LEOP. I didnt even know what it was, then I looked it up and was all ¿wtf mate?
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Sure. FYI: I actually arrived about 50 minutes late (even though I had started driving 3 hours earlier!), so I'm sure I missed some points. Prior to the event, I had already decided I wanted a lot of options when it came time to study abroad. Dean Wu talked about Hastings being very "international" given its student body and its exchange programs with schools overseas. He talked about California being part of the Pacific rim (which is great for trade) and how Hastings students can benefit from this "international" culture. Being able to speak a foreign language is important to me, so I compared the options Hastings had with some other law schools and had already decided on Hastings for this very reason. Also, if you want to get into public service, Hastings is a great place to start because it's centrally located in a big city and the school has a history/culture of community involvement. There will be tons of opportunities and the experience will be invaluable.bobloblaw'slawblog wrote:I'm considering Hastings but unfortunately I am working outside of CA right now and cannot attend any of the alumni events / admitted student events.calawdude wrote:I agree. If Hastings did anything with LEOP, it wouldn't be Hastings anymore, and the school stands for a lot of good things.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
Good thing we're keeping it civil, though. No need for bad blood in this thread. It's all love. Haha.
FYI: I went to the Irvine alumni event. Dean Wu is an amazing speaker. He made a lot of good points about Hastings that won me over, but much of it I had already realized when I was comparing schools. I suggest you guys go to the event closest to you if you can.
Would you mind sharing some (or all) of the points Dean Wu made in his speech?
TYia
ps. go bears(?) !
Before I sound anymore like a brochure, those of you who were also there, please feel free to chime in. As I had mentioned earlier, I was 50 minutes late. Haha.
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I'm creating a facebook group for students who are attending and who will be in the class of 2015. Add me on Facebook if you're definitely attending cause it won't let me create the group without selecting friends!
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I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.Lasers wrote:i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
i'll just leave it at that.
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You are my heroaarias11 wrote: I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.

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aarias11 wrote: I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.

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Any LEOP admits (or even non-LEOP admits) here interested in organizing and starting some sort of organization for law students from underprivileged backgrounds? I was looking through all the student organizations and all of them seemed to focus on race, ethnicity, or legal interest. It would be nice to get together with people with similar backgrounds.
If there's already an organization like this, please let me know; otherwise, if we start one, our organization might actually be the first of its kind (an organization based on class).
If there's already an organization like this, please let me know; otherwise, if we start one, our organization might actually be the first of its kind (an organization based on class).
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I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.[/quote]
Great. Stuff.
Went to the LA reception. Met some wonderful alumni and the assistant dean of admissions. Had a great time and it really had me liking Hastings. Planning to visit campus soon, hopefully for Admitted Students Day.
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I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.[/quote]
Great. Stuff.
Went to the LA reception. Met some wonderful alumni and the assistant dean of admissions. Had a great time and it really had me liking Hastings. Planning to visit campus soon, hopefully for Admitted Students Day.
-Random dude who is ruining hastings because I was admitted via LEOP
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I just added you~ (I think it's you). I'm not 100% sure about attending yet, but since Davis has a group already, Hastings should have one, too.melissaraffalow wrote:I'm creating a facebook group for students who are attending and who will be in the class of 2015. Add me on Facebook if you're definitely attending cause it won't let me create the group without selecting friends!

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As a non-LEOP admit from a Lower Class background, I like the sound of this.calawdude wrote:Any LEOP admits (or even non-LEOP admits) here interested in organizing and starting some sort of organization for law students from underprivileged backgrounds? I was looking through all the student organizations and all of them seemed to focus on race, ethnicity, or legal interest. It would be nice to get together with people with similar backgrounds.
If there's already an organization like this, please let me know; otherwise, if we start one, our organization might actually be the first of its kind (an organization based on class).
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my early bet is on you to be in the top 10% of the class should you attend hastings. your stats indicate you are capable + what LEOP offers... it is borderline unfair. i've heard they scaled back the advantages slightly, but that really doesn't matter.aarias11 wrote:I got accepted through LEOP I have an LSAT of 167 and major G.P.A of 3.85 do you guys think I'm going to bring down the medians? I wouldn't want to ruin anybody's law school experience.Lasers wrote:i don't want to get into it here, but LEOP is a totally unfair advantage. i know people in the program...it's pretty insane what they got first semester. i'm all for what LEOP represents, but they went too far, imo.ilovesf wrote:Yeah, LEOP really hurts the stats, but I really like the idea of the program. I would feel really shitty about hastings if they stopped it just for the rankings though.Lasers wrote: yes, aimed at improving rankings.
i believe smaller class size means student/faculty ratio goes up, less students to account for in terms of employment, likely better stats for the incoming class. if they were smart, they would curtail LEOP admissions more than the regular admissions.
i'll just leave it at that.
enjoy your good fortune.
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just to clarify, LEOP is a great program and i'm all for it. my gripe with it is that once school starts, they go a bit too far in providing certain...advantages. they have altered it slightly from what i have heard this semester, so it's a step in the right direction.
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Blumpbeef wrote:At graduation, not 9 months after.aliceydu wrote:OMG the new law school ranking is out! Hastings dropped two spots to 44Davis also dropped to 29.
US News says employment at graduation 40%... is that a joke?! Davis is at 80-something%.
Ohmygawwwwd...
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... -law-03015
even if it's not 9 months after... isn't that still sort of concerning? =/ less than half the class have jobs at graduation
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If you can keep it...non-offensive. I'd like to hear about the advantages that LEOP students are given and why you think it's so unfair.Lasers wrote:just to clarify, LEOP is a great program and i'm all for it. my gripe with it is that once school starts, they go a bit too far in providing certain...advantages. they have altered it slightly from what i have heard this semester, so it's a step in the right direction.
I didn't apply for the program I'm just asking out of curiosity.
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