TLS c/o 2020 - In #Squad We Trust Forum

[Mr_Chukes]

i noticed that Berk has a median LSAT of just 166, much lower than other schools nearby in ranking. it's 25% lsat is only 163. it seems clearly Berk could improve its lsat numbers and thus its ranking but chooses not to. this is very much unlike the very numbers-driven process at other t14. why then B doesn't try to improve ranking by increasing its lsat median?

another school in t14 where it's true to a slightly lesser extent is Stan, which has lsat median of 171, lower than HY. it's 25% lsat is a low 168. why then Stan doesn't do it too? do Berk and Stan not want to improve their ranking through lsat medians?

ps: leaving yale out of this issue because even though i think they could improve their lsat median further if they want to, they have already highest lsat median of 173 and no incentive to improve ranking as they are 1.

Berkeley doesn't really care about boosting their ranking. They care about the quality of students. So they will admit some people who don't have killer GPA and LSAT scores if they really like your application. They try to build a class of human beings not numbers.

[somedeadman]

I think we've established that getting email notifications is not childish (he might've been referring to the wearable gadget though).

This

[somedeadman]

I just check my email like a fucking g. Once a day.

How is this even possible? I get notifications on my watch every time I get an email so I'm checking it constantly.

That sounds childish lmao

Not really sure how something related to email is childish? Some people receive (non-law school related) email that needs to be immediately checked. I have work and person email on my phone, I check each notification because they could be work, I dont see how that's childish

I get 75+ work emails a day (except weekends usually more manageable 20 or so a day). Most emails expect a pretty quick response so I have to be on top of it. I get both notifications on my watch since work emails hit my phone prior to the computer since our network sucks.

I hate getting work emails on my phone over LTE with an asap turn around but the attachment is unusable on phone so I have to just sit there waiting for it to come to my computer whenever it wants

Lol, I didn't say checking your email was childish; relax

[Colonel_funkadunk]

I just check my email like a fucking g. Once a day.

How is this even possible? I get notifications on my watch every time I get an email so I'm checking it constantly.

That sounds childish lmao

Not really sure how something related to email is childish? Some people receive (non-law school related) email that needs to be immediately checked. I have work and person email on my phone, I check each notification because they could be work, I dont see how that's childish

I get 75+ work emails a day (except weekends usually more manageable 20 or so a day). Most emails expect a pretty quick response so I have to be on top of it. I get both notifications on my watch since work emails hit my phone prior to the computer since our network sucks.

I hate getting work emails on my phone over LTE with an asap turn around but the attachment is unusable on phone so I have to just sit there waiting for it to come to my computer whenever it wants

Lol, I didn't say checking your email was childish; relax

this is a worthwhile discussion that i hope continues

[TexasENG]

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[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

this is a worthwhile discussion that i hope continues

We need a new poll on this, who took over as op

[TexasENG]

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[RParadela]

i noticed that Berk has a median LSAT of just 166, much lower than other schools nearby in ranking. it's 25% lsat is only 163. it seems clearly Berk could improve its lsat numbers and thus its ranking but chooses not to. this is very much unlike the very numbers-driven process at other t14. why then B doesn't try to improve ranking by increasing its lsat median?

another school in t14 where it's true to a slightly lesser extent is Stan, which has lsat median of 171, lower than HY. it's 25% lsat is a low 168. why then Stan doesn't do it too? do Berk and Stan not want to improve their ranking through lsat medians?

ps: leaving yale out of this issue because even though i think they could improve their lsat median further if they want to, they have already highest lsat median of 173 and no incentive to improve ranking as they are 1.

They go for the GPA instead. Idk why, but that's what they do lol

they aren't really "going for" the gpa. their median gpa is merely not abnormally low. Berk c/o 2019 has median gpa of 3.79. it's lower than the schools ranked right above it by a good 0.11. 4 schools ranked below berk are MVDN. all 4 have higher median LSAT >= 2 points. out of these 4, two even have higher median GPA with the other two's median gpa quite close to Berk. so it's not like Berk made up for its loss in median LSAT through GPA, when 2 schools below it have both higher median GPA and LSAT.

this same reasoning applies to Stan also to a lesser extent.

Berkley is a lot more focused on softs than other law schools

[Colonel_funkadunk]

jeeves where u @

[RParadela]

jeeves where u @

Jeeves has gotten decisions from everywhere so he peaced from this thread

[appind]

i noticed that Berk has a median LSAT of just 166, much lower than other schools nearby in ranking. it's 25% lsat is only 163. it seems clearly Berk could improve its lsat numbers and thus its ranking but chooses not to. this is very much unlike the very numbers-driven process at other t14. why then B doesn't try to improve ranking by increasing its lsat median?

another school in t14 where it's true to a slightly lesser extent is Stan, which has lsat median of 171, lower than HY. it's 25% lsat is a low 168. why then Stan doesn't do it too? do Berk and Stan not want to improve their ranking through lsat medians?

ps: leaving yale out of this issue because even though i think they could improve their lsat median further if they want to, they have already highest lsat median of 173 and no incentive to improve ranking as they are 1.

Berkeley doesn't really care about boosting their ranking. They care about the quality of students. So they will admit some people who don't have killer GPA and LSAT scores if they really like your application. They try to build a class of human beings not numbers.

that was the q, why don't they care about ranking?

[appind]

Berkley is a lot more focused on softs than other law schools

why?

[Mr_Chukes]

i noticed that Berk has a median LSAT of just 166, much lower than other schools nearby in ranking. it's 25% lsat is only 163. it seems clearly Berk could improve its lsat numbers and thus its ranking but chooses not to. this is very much unlike the very numbers-driven process at other t14. why then B doesn't try to improve ranking by increasing its lsat median?

another school in t14 where it's true to a slightly lesser extent is Stan, which has lsat median of 171, lower than HY. it's 25% lsat is a low 168. why then Stan doesn't do it too? do Berk and Stan not want to improve their ranking through lsat medians?

ps: leaving yale out of this issue because even though i think they could improve their lsat median further if they want to, they have already highest lsat median of 173 and no incentive to improve ranking as they are 1.

Berkeley doesn't really care about boosting their ranking. They care about the quality of students. So they will admit some people who don't have killer GPA and LSAT scores if they really like your application. They try to build a class of human beings not numbers.

that was the q, why don't they care about ranking?

They have history so they will always be regarded as a top school. Plus they place very well in the job market. Top scholars want to come there and so do top students. So they don't need to gun to the top.

[appind]

i noticed that Berk has a median LSAT of just 166, much lower than other schools nearby in ranking. it's 25% lsat is only 163. it seems clearly Berk could improve its lsat numbers and thus its ranking but chooses not to. this is very much unlike the very numbers-driven process at other t14. why then B doesn't try to improve ranking by increasing its lsat median?

another school in t14 where it's true to a slightly lesser extent is Stan, which has lsat median of 171, lower than HY. it's 25% lsat is a low 168. why then Stan doesn't do it too? do Berk and Stan not want to improve their ranking through lsat medians?

ps: leaving yale out of this issue because even though i think they could improve their lsat median further if they want to, they have already highest lsat median of 173 and no incentive to improve ranking as they are 1.

Berkeley doesn't really care about boosting their ranking. They care about the quality of students. So they will admit some people who don't have killer GPA and LSAT scores if they really like your application. They try to build a class of human beings not numbers.

that was the q, why don't they care about ranking?

They have history so they will always be regarded as a top school. Plus they place very well in the job market. Top scholars want to come there and so do top students. So they don't need to gun to the top.

all of your quote can be said about Harvard, Yale and many other top schools. why then others don't do that?

[Mr_Chukes]

i noticed that Berk has a median LSAT of just 166, much lower than other schools nearby in ranking. it's 25% lsat is only 163. it seems clearly Berk could improve its lsat numbers and thus its ranking but chooses not to. this is very much unlike the very numbers-driven process at other t14. why then B doesn't try to improve ranking by increasing its lsat median?

another school in t14 where it's true to a slightly lesser extent is Stan, which has lsat median of 171, lower than HY. it's 25% lsat is a low 168. why then Stan doesn't do it too? do Berk and Stan not want to improve their ranking through lsat medians?

ps: leaving yale out of this issue because even though i think they could improve their lsat median further if they want to, they have already highest lsat median of 173 and no incentive to improve ranking as they are 1.

Berkeley doesn't really care about boosting their ranking. They care about the quality of students. So they will admit some people who don't have killer GPA and LSAT scores if they really like your application. They try to build a class of human beings not numbers.

that was the q, why don't they care about ranking?

They have history so they will always be regarded as a top school. Plus they place very well in the job market. Top scholars want to come there and so do top students. So they don't need to gun to the top.

all of your quote can be said about Harvard, Yale and many other top schools. why then others don't do that?

The Dean is different. He is focused on creating a class of well rounded happy people. Not competing with other top schools for the number one spot. Berkeley will continue to do well off legacy. Plus stats aren't the only thing that boost your ranking.

[RParadela]

Berkley is a lot more focused on softs than other law schools

why?

Lol I have no idea dude. They probably think it's a better indicator of a student then other schools do. Berkley has always done thing differently, even with UG and other grad schools

[appind]

i mean the deans don't stay forever, right. it's the school at B that itself seems to act differently wrt ranking than the other top schools without any solid reason, not that it's a bad thing. Schools like H Y Col Chi are all top schools but they care about lsat median.

[Alexandros]

i mean the deans don't stay forever, right. it's the school at B that itself seems to act differently wrt ranking than the other top schools without any solid reason, not that it's a bad thing. Schools like H Y Col Chi are all top schools but they care about lsat median.

I wonder if Berk's stinginess might account for the lower numbers. I'm not 100% convinced they're that holistic.
Also the ranking thing might have something to do with the fact that the only other t14 in the vicinity is Stanford.
All pure speculation, though.

[theboringest]

Has anyone else started doing financial calculations with scholarships and shit? I'm having a goddamn panic attack looking at some of these numbers.

[RParadela]

Has anyone else started doing financial calculations with scholarships and shit? I'm having a goddamn panic attack looking at some of these numbers.

Just look at the salary of 1st year associates in BigLaw and it'll make you feel better

[theboringest]

Has anyone else started doing financial calculations with scholarships and shit? I'm having a goddamn panic attack looking at some of these numbers.

Just look at the salary of 1st year associates in BigLaw and it'll make you feel better

biglaw sucks tho

[Mr_Chukes]

Has anyone else started doing financial calculations with scholarships and shit? I'm having a goddamn panic attack looking at some of these numbers.

Just look at the salary of 1st year associates in BigLaw and it'll make you feel better

biglaw sucks tho

That's life bro. We all have jobs we don't love just to earn the money. Then hopefully one day we move into something we like better when we are more comfortable. Hey who knows, you actually might love BigLaw later.

[TexasENG]

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[RParadela]

Surprised at the wearable hate in here. I figured with all the Apple fanbois there's be people rocking apple watches or at least fitbits

The GoPro on my dick option put it over the top

[Mr_Chukes]

Surprised at the wearable hate in here. I figured with all the Apple fanbois there's be people rocking apple watches or at least fitbits

The GoPro on my dick option put it over the top

So you could play that back in slow mo!