Harvard 2010! Forum

[notanumber]

looks like you have a good bit of work experience as well though

Work? Me work? Perish the thought!

But seriously, I know I'm in a good spot. But I do have some significant potentially negative factors that might work against me and I'll remain on pins and needles until I'm accepted.

[BenJ]

looks like you have a good bit of work experience as well though

Work? Me work? Perish the thought!

But seriously, I know I'm in a good spot. But I do have some significant potentially negative factors that might work against me and I'll remain on pins and needles until I'm accepted.

"Significant potentially negative factors" sounds really sinister.

[notanumber]

"Significant potentially negative factors" sounds really sinister.

Sinister? Perhaps. But nothing I'm ashamed of. I didn't shoot a man just to watch him die.

But I do have things on my resume that adcoms might react poorly towards. And I'm not 100% sure that my LORs were particularly strong (long story that I'll be happy to share post-decisions).

[DoubleChecks]

"Significant potentially negative factors" sounds really sinister.

Sinister? Perhaps. But nothing I'm ashamed of. I didn't shoot a man just to watch him die.

But I do have things on my resume that adcoms might react poorly towards. And I'm not 100% sure that my LORs were particularly strong (long story that I'll be happy to share post-decisions).

huh. did you shoot a man for any other reason?

[crackberry]

"What are your qualifications for this job?"

"Well, I've never killed a man."

Can anyone name that movie? Pretty obscure reference I know.

[notanumber]

huh. did you shoot a man for any other reason?

No comment.

[Nom Sawyer]

"Significant potentially negative factors" sounds really sinister.

Sinister? Perhaps. But nothing I'm ashamed of. I didn't shoot a man just to watch him die.

But I do have things on my resume that adcoms might react poorly towards. And I'm not 100% sure that my LORs were particularly strong (long story that I'll be happy to share post-decisions).

huh. did you shoot a man for any other reason?

when I saw that i was like... lol of course you didn't, you shot him because that dirty cheater had to pay.. "nobody rips me off and gets away with it" right?

[chopsticks3092]

Okay kids. Legally Blonde showed in my mail today (Netflix). I sense that this is a premonition. I'll watch it tonight as I'm going to bed and Harvard will offer me a phone interview tomorrow.

You heard it here first.

She got the same LSAT score I did and she got into Harvard, so I hope that helps me.

But don't forget that she had a 4.0 and was a friend to the animals!

[Dignan]

"What are your qualifications for this job?"

"Well, I've never killed a man."

Can anyone name that movie? Pretty obscure reference I know.

This is from a movie that I didn't watch closely (it was on cable at a friend's house), but I vaguely remember a scene where Benicio Del Toro is being interviewed at a sperm bank, and he kept insisting that the fact that he never killed anybody was a relevant qualification. Am I close?

[Kronk]

"What are your qualifications for this job?"

"Well, I've never killed a man."

Can anyone name that movie? Pretty obscure reference I know.

This is from a movie that I didn't watch closely (it was on cable at a friend's house), but I vaguely remember a scene where Benicio Del Toro is being interviewed at a sperm bank, and he kept insisting that the fact that he never killed anybody was a relevant qualification. Am I close?

Very close.

[Sogui]

everyone ready for another round of jr1s tomm?

ohgodohgodohgod

[nattybro]

everyone ready for another round of jr1s tomm?

yes please

[somewhatwayward]

question for you all-- has anyone seen any evidence outside of the TLS/LSN world indicating the change we sense JR and the economy have brought? like, did JR ever drop a line somewhere saying they intend to overtake yale in gpa this year, or that their admissions philosophies have changed, or anything?

the quartiles for those admitted this cycle on LSN so far are 3.87/3.97/3.98 and 173/175/176. the spreads are narrower than usual for LSN, and gpa's don't dip as low as usual for LSN. speculation, anyone?

jesus christ, no wonder i never got a JR2 at 171/3.9 with average softs. i know that the quartiles will be lower for those who actually attend but still.....

[somewhatwayward]

"What are your qualifications for this job?"

"Well, I've never killed a man."

Can anyone name that movie? Pretty obscure reference I know.

the way of the gun

[Consigliere]

"What are your qualifications for this job?"

"Well, I've never killed a man."

Can anyone name that movie? Pretty obscure reference I know.

This is from a movie that I didn't watch closely (it was on cable at a friend's house), but I vaguely remember a scene where Benicio Del Toro is being interviewed at a sperm bank, and he kept insisting that the fact that he never killed anybody was a relevant qualification. Am I close?

Very close.

Is that from the Way of the Gun? Edit: Damn, beat me to it

that movie has the second best opening sequence of all time, right after Super Troopers

[englawyer]

question for you all-- has anyone seen any evidence outside of the TLS/LSN world indicating the change we sense JR and the economy have brought? like, did JR ever drop a line somewhere saying they intend to overtake yale in gpa this year, or that their admissions philosophies have changed, or anything?

the quartiles for those admitted this cycle on LSN so far are 3.87/3.97/3.98 and 173/175/176. the spreads are narrower than usual for LSN, and gpa's don't dip as low as usual for LSN. speculation, anyone?

jesus christ, no wonder i never got a JR2 at 171/3.9 with average softs. i know that the quartiles will be lower for those who actually attend but still.....

hmm it would be a good idea to compute the LSN quartiles from last year and compare IMO

[georgina]

hmm it would be a good idea to compute the LSN quartiles from last year and compare IMO

LSN only, outright admits only:

09-10 173/175/177 3.87/3.94/3.98
08-09 172/175/177 3.8175/3.905/3.96
07-08 173/175/177 3.8/3.91/3.98
06-07 172/175/177 3.8/3.91/3.96
05-06 172/174/177 3.8/3.89/3.955

yes, i really do have nothing better to do with my time. jk, excel made it easy.

[somewhatwayward]

why did your other post say 3.87/3.97/3.98 for this year and now it says 3.94 for median? yesterday's admits?

geez, the rise of that 25th percentile GPA is pretty phenomenal; it is bad news for both traditional splitters and for us 'soft' reverse splitters.....actually, i guess it is worse for us bc for traditional splitters their GPA will be below median no matter what but their LSAT will be way above whereas for 'soft' reverse splitters now our GPAs are may be barely above the 25th percentile and our LSATs significantly below 25th percentile

i think this data suggests that traditional splitters are going to be in a better position for acceptance in the next couple months.

[CoaltoNewCastle]

That data makes me happy because the LSAT scores don't seem to have gotten better. You people need to stop freaking out though. The admissions cycle isn't over and those GPA's are going to go down as they admit more borderline applicants. A better way to do this would be to analyze the quartiles of people admitted up to this date in each cycle. And even that would be flawed.

[$1.99]

question for you all-- has anyone seen any evidence outside of the TLS/LSN world indicating the change we sense JR and the economy have brought? like, did JR ever drop a line somewhere saying they intend to overtake yale in gpa this year, or that their admissions philosophies have changed, or anything?

the quartiles for those admitted this cycle on LSN so far are 3.87/3.97/3.98 and 173/175/176. the spreads are narrower than usual for LSN, and gpa's don't dip as low as usual for LSN. speculation, anyone?

jesus christ, no wonder i never got a JR2 at 171/3.9 with average softs. i know that the quartiles will be lower for those who actually attend but still.....

i envy you for even having had the chance to hear JR's voice on the phone, i have same stats and was held.

[mh7777]

The admissions cycle isn't over and those GPA's are going to go down as they admit more borderline applicants.

This.

Those numbers give me hope, because it shows that we shouldn't expect such a big jump.

[georgina]

why did your other post say 3.87/3.97/3.98 for this year and now it says 3.94 for median? yesterday's admits?

oh, uhh 3.97 was a typo and should have been 3.94. sorry, will go edit. i did add all of yesterday's people, but they didn't change the GPA numbers. this time it's copy/pasted from excel, so no typos.

[of Benito Cereno]

why did your other post say 3.87/3.97/3.98 for this year and now it says 3.94 for median? yesterday's admits?

geez, the rise of that 25th percentile GPA is pretty phenomenal; it is bad news for both traditional splitters and for us 'soft' reverse splitters.....actually, i guess it is worse for us bc for traditional splitters their GPA will be below median no matter what but their LSAT will be way above whereas for 'soft' reverse splitters now our GPAs are may be barely above the 25th percentile and our LSATs significantly below 25th percentile

i think this data suggests that traditional splitters are going to be in a better position for acceptance in the next couple months.

or it just means that higher numbers are admitted earlier.
here is the really important issue: harvard has only admitted around 60% as many applicants so far on lsn as it did last year: ~105 this year and around 165 last year. Thing is, looking at lsn there aren't very many january applicants with autoadmit numbers (most really qualified applicants apply earlier on). What's clear is that Harvard has held way more applicants this year than before and that many of these holds are going to be admitted. As I discussed earlier on the hold thread, it seems like holds might make up around 20% of the total admits. Even if thats generous I think due to new dean etc Harvard has mostly only accepted autoadmit applicants on a rolling basis and is waiting until later to get to its borderline-admits. There's no reason to think the 25th will be higher this year; it just seems that increased holds mean that Harvard is holding on to its numerically weaker admits until later in the cycle.

[somewhatwayward]

question for you all-- has anyone seen any evidence outside of the TLS/LSN world indicating the change we sense JR and the economy have brought? like, did JR ever drop a line somewhere saying they intend to overtake yale in gpa this year, or that their admissions philosophies have changed, or anything?

the quartiles for those admitted this cycle on LSN so far are 3.87/3.97/3.98 and 173/175/176. the spreads are narrower than usual for LSN, and gpa's don't dip as low as usual for LSN. speculation, anyone?

jesus christ, no wonder i never got a JR2 at 171/3.9 with average softs. i know that the quartiles will be lower for those who actually attend but still.....

i envy you for even having had the chance to hear JR's voice on the phone, i have same stats and was held.

i was held, too.....just after several agonizing mondays with no JR2.

[scribelaw]

I don't see much motivation for HLS to increase its numbers, either. If they really wanted to make a run at Yale for No. 1, they'd just cut the class size down to 400.