NYU c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017) Forum

[Assasindowntheavenue]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

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I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

[Thelaw23]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

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I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

[mtf612]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

Feeling this. Did poorly in HS for personal reasons, went to my local private LAC, and something "clicked" and I graduated near the top of my class. Some people with my numbers received HLS this year, meanwhile I am WL at Chicago, Held at CLS, and radio silent from NYU. I'm certain that is partially due to applying late (Dec/Jan) but I have no doubt that the fact that adcomms had to Google my undergrad has hurt me as well.

[Thelaw23]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

Feeling this. Did poorly in HS for personal reasons, went to my local private LAC, and something "clicked" and I graduated near the top of my class. Some people with my numbers received HLS this year, meanwhile I am WL at Chicago, Held at CLS, and radio silent from NYU. I'm certain that is partially due to applying late (Dec/Jan) but I have no doubt that the fact that adcomms had to Google my undergrad has hurt me as well.

In Columbia's admitted student program, they had your undergrad institution in big letters next to the name tag you wore around your neck. You had to find yours propped up on the table. I literally was astounded by all the top 20 school name tags surrounding my little poor regional school.

It might be a different correlation though, meaning most students who can score 168 and up tend to be from T20 undergrad schools.

[mtf612]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

Feeling this. Did poorly in HS for personal reasons, went to my local private LAC, and something "clicked" and I graduated near the top of my class. Some people with my numbers received HLS this year, meanwhile I am WL at Chicago, Held at CLS, and radio silent from NYU. I'm certain that is partially due to applying late (Dec/Jan) but I have no doubt that the fact that adcomms had to Google my undergrad has hurt me as well.

In Columbia's admitted student program, they had your undergrad institution in big letters next to the name tag you wore around your neck. You had to find yours propped up on the table. I literally was astounded by all the top 20 school name tags surrounding my little poor regional school.

It might be a different correlation though, meaning most students who can score 168 and up tend to be from T20 undergrad schools.

Oh I'm certain that there is a correlation/causation flaw here in my own reasoning (to some extent). In reviewing my CAS report, my school produced a disproportionate number of under under 50th percentile LSAT scores in addition to a dearth of 85th percentile and higher scores. I'm sure at top 20 undergrads that trend would be inverted.

[hellohalo]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

Feeling this. Did poorly in HS for personal reasons, went to my local private LAC, and something "clicked" and I graduated near the top of my class. Some people with my numbers received HLS this year, meanwhile I am WL at Chicago, Held at CLS, and radio silent from NYU. I'm certain that is partially due to applying late (Dec/Jan) but I have no doubt that the fact that adcomms had to Google my undergrad has hurt me as well.

In Columbia's admitted student program, they had your undergrad institution in big letters next to the name tag you wore around your neck. You had to find yours propped up on the table. I literally was astounded by all the top 20 school name tags surrounding my little poor regional school.

It might be a different correlation though, meaning most students who can score 168 and up tend to be from T20 undergrad schools.

Haha. Everybody around me is from like Harvard Brown Columbia Georgetown etc. And I'm from a regional school in a foreign country with a long name... There were literally people staring at my tag confused and walking away.

[Thelaw23]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

Feeling this. Did poorly in HS for personal reasons, went to my local private LAC, and something "clicked" and I graduated near the top of my class. Some people with my numbers received HLS this year, meanwhile I am WL at Chicago, Held at CLS, and radio silent from NYU. I'm certain that is partially due to applying late (Dec/Jan) but I have no doubt that the fact that adcomms had to Google my undergrad has hurt me as well.

In Columbia's admitted student program, they had your undergrad institution in big letters next to the name tag you wore around your neck. You had to find yours propped up on the table. I literally was astounded by all the top 20 school name tags surrounding my little poor regional school.

It might be a different correlation though, meaning most students who can score 168 and up tend to be from T20 undergrad schools.

Haha. Everybody around me is from like Harvard Brown Columbia Georgetown etc. And I'm from a regional school in a foreign country with a long name... There were literally people staring at my tag confused and walking away.

And I don't know what it was but absolutely everybody at that admitted student program wanted to do PI... I felt embarrassed to answer when people asked me what law/path I wanted to do after graduation haha

[Assasindowntheavenue]

And I don't know what it was but absolutely everybody at that admitted student program wanted to do PI... I felt embarrassed to answer when people asked me what law/path I wanted to do after graduation haha

I don't get why you would go to a top school and incur massive debt if you want to do PI. Why not go somewhere with little debt and actually do what makes you happy (assuming PI does that) even if it's not a t-14?

[gargleblaster]

can we get another "be patient" email plz

[Thelaw23]

And I don't know what it was but absolutely everybody at that admitted student program wanted to do PI... I felt embarrassed to answer when people asked me what law/path I wanted to do after graduation haha

I don't get why you would go to a top school and incur massive debt if you want to do PI. Why not go somewhere with little debt and actually do what makes you happy (assuming PI does that) even if it's not a t-14?

Well, there are the forgiveness programs that people can utilize. Also, many PI jobs are very hard to get and coming from a higher ranked school puts you in a better position to get them.

[VA2lawschool]

And I don't know what it was but absolutely everybody at that admitted student program wanted to do PI... I felt embarrassed to answer when people asked me what law/path I wanted to do after graduation haha

I don't get why you would go to a top school and incur massive debt if you want to do PI. Why not go somewhere with little debt and actually do what makes you happy (assuming PI does that) even if it's not a t-14?

Well, there are the forgiveness programs that people can utilize. Also, many PI jobs are very hard to get and coming from a higher ranked school puts you in a better position to get them.

^Yup. Also, there's a difference between your local PD office and working for the ACLU. I would venture to say that the higher you go up, the less reasonable it becomes to go for a higher ranking because of Biglaw, and much much more important for the most competitive PI jobs.

[erwuxvcm]

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[jessmeesh]

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It's called the academic summary report. Go to your LSAC account. Apply> Transcripts > Academic summary report

[ashrice13]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

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I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

I definitely think the prestige of UG matters. a 3.9x at an Ivy is simply more impressive than a 3.9X from an unknown state school. I'll be the first to admit that I probably didn't have to work as hard for my GPA as someone from an Ivy. That's not to say that my 3.9x means NOTHING...because no matter what school you go to a high GPA requires hard work and a goog grasp of a wide range of material. I think numbers still matter most of all...the 3.9x will get them to look at your app in the first place but the school name could very well be the difference between acceptance and WL if you have a borderline LSAT

[TexasENG]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

I definitely think the prestige of UG matters. a 3.9x at an Ivy is simply more impressive than a 3.9X from an unknown state school. I'll be the first to admit that I probably didn't have to work as hard for my GPA as someone from an Ivy. That's not to say that my 3.9x means NOTHING...because no matter what school you go to a high GPA requires hard work and a goog grasp of a wide range of material. I think numbers still matter most of all...the 3.9x will get them to look at your app in the first place but the school name could very well be the difference between acceptance and WL if you have a borderline LSAT

I've actually heard ivys tend to have more grade inflation than your average undergrade institutions. Like they figure if you are there they grade a Little easier. Idk though never bothered to see if there is actual evidence for this

[Thelaw23]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

I definitely think the prestige of UG matters. a 3.9x at an Ivy is simply more impressive than a 3.9X from an unknown state school. I'll be the first to admit that I probably didn't have to work as hard for my GPA as someone from an Ivy. That's not to say that my 3.9x means NOTHING...because no matter what school you go to a high GPA requires hard work and a goog grasp of a wide range of material. I think numbers still matter most of all...the 3.9x will get them to look at your app in the first place but the school name could very well be the difference between acceptance and WL if you have a borderline LSAT

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

[gargleblaster]

Numbers twin with the same UR2 date got in just now.

...

I hate today.

My numbers twin has had an amazing cycle. She went to an ivy and I went to a shit state school though so it's kind of like watching what could have been if I was smarter.

Lmao. This happened to me this cycle too. Rough life.

I don't care what they say, but the prestige of your undergrad institution absolutely plays a big part in the process.

So much for it being just a numbers game lol

I definitely think the prestige of UG matters. a 3.9x at an Ivy is simply more impressive than a 3.9X from an unknown state school. I'll be the first to admit that I probably didn't have to work as hard for my GPA as someone from an Ivy. That's not to say that my 3.9x means NOTHING...because no matter what school you go to a high GPA requires hard work and a goog grasp of a wide range of material. I think numbers still matter most of all...the 3.9x will get them to look at your app in the first place but the school name could very well be the difference between acceptance and WL if you have a borderline LSAT

I've actually heard ivys tend to have more grade inflation than your average undergrade institutions. Like they figure if you are there they grade a Little easier. Idk though never bothered to see if there is actual evidence for this

Anecdotally, i had an undergrad professor who used to teach at Harvard. He said in a particular department they would give the students two grades. The official grade was always an A - because anything else would hurt the student employability wise. The unofficial grade would give actual feedback as to how the student was doing in the class but would never be recorded. He was not a fan - we got graded harshly

[Leliana]

Isn't there a statistic somewhere that's like 1/3rd of YLS went to HYP for undergrad?

[ashrice13]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

[SmallK]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

I've always heard the same -- that any grad program works as a reset button (to an extent). People focus more on any grad degree than previous (unrelated) work experience, undergrad, etc.

[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

Gotta be especially true of Law School right? Like what does the UG matter except as a data point in associate bios?

[AllHailKingMao]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

Gotta be especially true of Law School right? Like what does the UG matter except as a data point in associate bios?

I have a masters from Harvard and decent numbers, and I'm having a terrible cycle. So I would say no.

[goldenbear2020]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

Gotta be especially true of Law School right? Like what does the UG matter except as a data point in associate bios?

I've heard anecdata in the law employment forum that, at the margins, UG prestige could play a small role for the "associate bio" reason. For example, if you and another guy are both in the bottom 20% at CLS but he has an Ivy UG...

[LegallyBlackJD]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

Gotta be especially true of Law School right? Like what does the UG matter except as a data point in associate bios?

I have a masters from Harvard and decent numbers, and I'm having a terrible cycle. So I would say no.

Agree with Mao. I also have a Master's from an Ivy and another Master's from a top school. I don't think it means shit. Cycle has been unpredictable lol.

[laqueredup]

I also can't help but wonder if this will affect me in the future too. Meaning, will employers look at someone also from CLS but from an ivy league undergrad different than me?

I heard a report that if you go to any type of grad school, the grad school you went to matters much more than the UG you went to. I heard this a few years ago so I don't have the source to back it up but I think it makes sense to me.

Gotta be especially true of Law School right? Like what does the UG matter except as a data point in associate bios?

I have a masters from Harvard and decent numbers, and I'm having a terrible cycle. So I would say no.

Agree with Mao. I also have a Master's from an Ivy and another Master's from a top school. I don't think it means shit. Cycle has been unpredictable lol.

I think the original comment was referring to employers, not Law Schools, I don't think my MS has been much more than a thumb on the scale for law school either.