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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by GBURGLAW » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:59 pm

Does anyone know if Fordham negotiates scholarships?? I just received my acceptance email, but there was no scholarship one to follow so I'm assuming I got nothing. I received $20000 from W&L and was hoping I could maybe get 5-8k from Fordham? Thoughts?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by NYC Law » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:00 am

GBURGLAW wrote:Does anyone know if Fordham negotiates scholarships?? I just received my acceptance email, but there was no scholarship one to follow so I'm assuming I got nothing. I received $20000 from W&L and was hoping I could maybe get 5-8k from Fordham? Thoughts?
Yep, they do. I did last cycle, PM for details.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by Killingly » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:01 am

GBURGLAW wrote:Does anyone know if Fordham negotiates scholarships?? I just received my acceptance email, but there was no scholarship one to follow so I'm assuming I got nothing. I received $20000 from W&L and was hoping I could maybe get 5-8k from Fordham? Thoughts?
Just wait. They give themselves a two week window from your acceptance. Some people found out the same day, others much later.

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Post by cgomez » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:13 am

thanks for birthday wishes.

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Post by Gotti » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:15 am

tagging...i'm also a 1L at fordham. loving it! good luck everyone.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by GBURGLAW » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:14 am

Well, assuming I get nothing from Fordham, do you guys think it's justifiable to pay sticker for Fordham and turn down $20,000 from W&L?? I want to do BigLaw (like everyone else applying to law school) and would prefer to work in NY over somewhere like DC. Thoughts???

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Post by Cornelius » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:28 am

GBURGLAW wrote:Well, assuming I get nothing from Fordham, do you guys think it's justifiable to pay sticker for Fordham and turn down $20,000 from W&L?? I want to do BigLaw (like everyone else applying to law school) and would prefer to work in NY over somewhere like DC. Thoughts???
I would definitely try to negotiate first if you've received money from similarly-ranked schools. Evaluate the decision after that.

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Post by tennisking88 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:35 am

GBURGLAW wrote:Well, assuming I get nothing from Fordham, do you guys think it's justifiable to pay sticker for Fordham and turn down $20,000 from W&L?? I want to do BigLaw (like everyone else applying to law school) and would prefer to work in NY over somewhere like DC. Thoughts???
I think the TLS consensus from previous threads is: absolutely do not pay ~225k to go to Fordham.

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Post by NYDCKid2014 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:32 pm

to all those on the wait list I spoke with the admissions director and she said they are hoping to look at the wait list starting in February.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by MrAnon » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:46 pm

GBURGLAW wrote:Well, assuming I get nothing from Fordham, do you guys think it's justifiable to pay sticker for Fordham and turn down $20,000 from W&L?? I want to do BigLaw (like everyone else applying to law school) and would prefer to work in NY over somewhere like DC. Thoughts???
If you want biglaw you should reapply with better numbers to other schools. If you are willing to take a 25% chance that you will get biglaw and a 75% chance that you will not then proceed to Fordham or W&L. Fordham is definitely not worth full tuition because you are getting the same education as any other school without any enhanced income earning ability. They will say, oh you are in NYC, but that does not translate to better jobs or quality of life. W&L on the other hand--I cannot speak for the job prospects, but its in the middle of nowhere and it I think you assume its a washington DC feeder school. Many employers in washington DC will have no clue where the school is even located. You know a lot of progressive people who identify with and show their appreciation for Robert E. Lee, namesake of the school?

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Post by tennisking88 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:56 pm

MrAnon wrote: You know a lot of progressive people who identify with and show their appreciation for Robert E. Lee, namesake of the school?
This is just dumb. My friend (a liberal) is at WL and he says the atmosphere is just fine & there are plenty of progressive/LGBT students there.

But yeah, agree with the sticker price thing. I mean, even if you get like 8K, you will still come out with 200k in debt. Unless you get major financial assistance, Fordham is not worth that.

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Post by MrAnon » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:10 pm

tennisking88 wrote:
MrAnon wrote: You know a lot of progressive people who identify with and show their appreciation for Robert E. Lee, namesake of the school?
This is just dumb. My friend (a liberal) is at WL and he says the atmosphere is just fine & there are plenty of progressive/LGBT students there.

But yeah, agree with the sticker price thing. I mean, even if you get like 8K, you will still come out with 200k in debt. Unless you get major financial assistance, Fordham is not worth that.

Its not "just dumb". There may very well be tons of LGBT and progressives and I'm sure they have tons and tons of exchange students nowadays too at all levels of W&L. Fact remains, it aint a DC powerhouse at undergrad or grad level, and its a conservative school no matter how they spin it. You'll find that southern fratboy atmosphere prevails, surely not in grad school, but generally on campus. You're just as well off going to George Mason for a law job in DC. Think of it this way--did you consider W&L undergrad for a second? No? Well then why would you consider the law school. Just because it is a T1? If trying to justify it, of course you can always find evidence, but particularly strong evidence?

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Post by tennisking88 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:17 pm

MrAnon wrote:
tennisking88 wrote:
MrAnon wrote: You know a lot of progressive people who identify with and show their appreciation for Robert E. Lee, namesake of the school?
This is just dumb. My friend (a liberal) is at WL and he says the atmosphere is just fine & there are plenty of progressive/LGBT students there.

But yeah, agree with the sticker price thing. I mean, even if you get like 8K, you will still come out with 200k in debt. Unless you get major financial assistance, Fordham is not worth that.

Its not "just dumb". There may very well be tons of LGBT and progressives and I'm sure they have tons and tons of exchange students nowadays too at all levels of W&L. Fact remains, it aint a DC powerhouse at undergrad or grad level, and its a conservative school no matter how they spin it. You'll find that southern fratboy atmosphere prevails, surely not in grad school, but generally on campus. You're just as well off going to George Mason for a law job in DC. Think of it this way--did you consider W&L undergrad for a second? No? Well then why would you consider the law school. Just because it is a T1? If trying to justify it, of course you can always find evidence, but particularly strong evidence?
Haha, the GM faculty and student body is probably 5 times as conservative as WL's. The only advantage to GM is in state tuition (if you're from VA) and location, though the COL is much higher. Even if GM is closer, I still think, from living/working in DC, WL carries more weight.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by AbLSAT » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:35 pm

Got an email from Fordham saying im in, no money mentioned. Do they send that later? Also when is a good time to start negotiating? I got a full ride to Cardozo hope that gives me some leverage with them?

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Post by JenDarby » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:33 am

Gotti wrote:tagging...i'm also a 1L at fordham. loving it! good luck everyone.

feel free to PM me with any questions
Exactly this. I will also drop in here and contribute when possible.

I was waitlisted and later accepted with a scholarship. So for those of you WL'ed, don't lose hope. I did not write a LOCI, but received an unsolicited email inquiring about a couple things on my application. Two days later I was accepted, and the next day I received the scholarship email. If anyone has any related questions feel free to PM me.

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Post by clee33 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:32 pm

JenDarby wrote:
Gotti wrote:tagging...i'm also a 1L at fordham. loving it! good luck everyone.

feel free to PM me with any questions
Exactly this. I will also drop in here and contribute when possible.

I was waitlisted and later accepted with a scholarship. So for those of you WL'ed, don't lose hope. I did not write a LOCI, but received an unsolicited email inquiring about a couple things on my application. Two days later I was accepted, and the next day I received the scholarship email. If anyone has any related questions feel free to PM me.
Hey what have you (or anyone else currently at Fordham for that matter) heard about the new building? Is everything still on schedule?

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Post by JenDarby » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:11 pm

clee33 wrote:Hey what have you (or anyone else currently at Fordham for that matter) heard about the new building? Is everything still on schedule?
I haven't really heard anything about the new building. What I will say is there is a rendition of it in the lobby, and they are serious about pushing its future existence, so they will probably work to keep it on schedule. On the other hand the building site looks pretty stagnant.

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Post by NYC Law » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:14 pm

JenDarby wrote:
clee33 wrote:Hey what have you (or anyone else currently at Fordham for that matter) heard about the new building? Is everything still on schedule?
I haven't really heard anything about the new building. What I will say is there is a rendition of it in the lobby, and they are serious about pushing its future existence, so they will probably work to keep it on schedule. On the other hand the building site looks pretty stagnant.
Not really, I'm *lucky enough* to have a view of the site from my dorm. In the beginning of the semester it was just dirt, they're currently on the third floor or so, with the basement done as well. But that could be slow by NY standards.

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Post by cogitoergosum » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:04 pm

clee33 wrote:
JenDarby wrote:
Gotti wrote:tagging...i'm also a 1L at fordham. loving it! good luck everyone.

feel free to PM me with any questions
Exactly this. I will also drop in here and contribute when possible.

I was waitlisted and later accepted with a scholarship. So for those of you WL'ed, don't lose hope. I did not write a LOCI, but received an unsolicited email inquiring about a couple things on my application. Two days later I was accepted, and the next day I received the scholarship email. If anyone has any related questions feel free to PM me.
Hey what have you (or anyone else currently at Fordham for that matter) heard about the new building? Is everything still on schedule?
Yeah, this is actually quite relevant to my interests... I suppose it wouldn't actually change my mind either way, but it would be a huge plus to be in that building for 3L. I've been checking in every couple of days on the Fordham site to watch it going up.

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Post by cogitoergosum » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:06 pm

I also feel like the new building will give Fordham at least a little boost in rankings/general prestige.

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Post by JenDarby » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:08 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:Yeah, this is actually quite relevant to my interests... I suppose it wouldn't actually change my mind either way, but it would be a huge plus to be in that building for 3L. I've been checking in every couple of days on the Fordham site to watch it going up.
The Fordham building blows, but in all honesty in really doesn't make a difference. I go there for class, it serves its purpose, and I leave. I would do this even if it were cleaner, more technologically advanced, etc.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Post by Pleasye » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:21 pm

Waitlisted as of today.

I'm just happy I didn't get denied :lol:

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Post by Jante05 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:40 pm

Pleasye wrote:Waitlisted as of today.

I'm just happy I didn't get denied :lol:
Sent my app last week for pt program keeping my fingers X (btw nice pic) LOL :P
so if your waitlisted how long should you wait?

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Post by Pleasye » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:54 pm

Jante05 wrote:Sent my app last week for pt program keeping my fingers X (btw nice pic) LOL :P
so if your waitlisted how long should you wait?
Thanks :P

I have no idea. Judging from the past few pages it looks like they've been waitlisting and then admitting people pretty quickly?

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Post by JenDarby » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:01 am

I was WL'ed in Feb and accepted mid-May last year. So if you don't hear back quickly, don't give up hope! (I also didn't write a LOCI, so that might speed up the process)

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