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mst · Post by **mst** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:40 pm

champsound wrote:
jpk5372 wrote:I initially read that as "bedazzled" and it made me really happy.
I read that as "Beadazzled"... which is the name of a store near my house which sells beads. It made me kind of confused.

Does this store stay in business? Or is it a mafia front? I just can't imagine that being successful.

moneko · Post by **moneko** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:41 pm

mst wrote:
law_monkey wrote:
timmna wrote:
law_monkey wrote:
Thanks for answering! And I like what I hear! That's another tally in the NYU column.
Is penguin going to be our word for the March 31 ASW?
It doesn't sound like it's working though. I think it should we should notice a loose "thread" on our shirt or something. And yes I am this cheesy IRL.
Depending on the schedule I'm down for a lunch or something prior to this to avoid having to scream penguin in large crowds of fellow peers.

all those in favor of a penguin-themed TLS meetup say aye... or penguin?

c_dubya_s · Post by **c_dubya_s** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:41 pm

mst wrote:
champsound wrote:
jpk5372 wrote:I initially read that as "bedazzled" and it made me really happy.
I read that as "Beadazzled"... which is the name of a store near my house which sells beads. It made me kind of confused.
Does this store stay in business? Or is it a mafia front? I just can't imagine that being successful.

It's been there as long as I can remember (approx. 4 years). Dupont Circle has a number of stores that I can't believe stay in business.

EDIT: Dupont Circle in Washington DC. Just in case there's another Dupont Circle out there somewhere.

forward · Post by **forward** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:46 pm

pixytree wrote: i read somewhere that they sometimes give $$ to finalists, even if they don't get the full tuition scholly.

Can anyone speak to this?

law_monkey · Post by **law_monkey** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 pm

moneko wrote:
all those in favor of a penguin-themed TLS meetup say aye... or penguin?

I'm all for a meetup, penguin-themed or otherwise!

forward wrote:
pixytree wrote: i read somewhere that they sometimes give $$ to finalists, even if they don't get the full tuition scholly.

Can anyone speak to this?

I've only heard secondhand info about this, but there's no way they can dangle a full ride in front of us and then go straight to nothing. From what I hear they do take care of their finalists.

cawquette · Post by **cawquette** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:35 pm

SOMEONE WHO WENT TO ASW TODAY PLEEEEEEEEEASE TELL US DETAILS! share highlights, outfits, vibe of the students...! pleeease please please

subtle · Post by **subtle** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:47 pm

cawquette wrote:SOMEONE WHO WENT TO ASW TODAY PLEEEEEEEEEASE TELL US DETAILS! share highlights, outfits, vibe of the students...! pleeease please please

+1 Especially, because I'm not sure if I'll be able to visit.

sgtgrumbles · Post by **sgtgrumbles** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:52 pm

Reporting back from day 1 of ASW #1.

I won't be too long-winded, as I had quite a few beers at the pizza and beer party they threw for us. I'll just let that sink in for a minute: pizza and keg beer... in grandiose Vanderbilt Hall... at NYU Law... where I might be taking classes next year. Okay.

The student panel was good, aside from the 2L claiming that anybody who wanted biglaw could get it. In his defense, that guy seemed cool otherwise, and his panel-mates were as skeptical as the crowd about that claim.

I went to Burt Neuborne's Evidence class. Neuborne was lively and engaging and didn't employ the Socratic method. All the admitted student guests were sitting in the back, and maybe some self-selection goes into who lurks in the back of class, but the students in front of me were definitely perusing Gawker, Facebook and the New York Times website, so class shouldn't get in the way of your web-browsing.

The student organizations panel was great. I plan on doing PI, so it was nice to be able to go directly to the people working in the issue areas I want. I chatted with a few students about their organizations, public interest opportunities and top-law-schools.com in general.

After that was a panel with recent alumni. NYU was obviously trying to cover all the bases, so they naturally had one clerk, one biglaw associate and one Legal Aid attorney. The focus of the panel was work-life balance. The panelists had different takes on what that balance was, but unsurprisingly they all endorsed NYU as a very collegial and non-stressful place.

After that was beer and pizza, and after that a nearby bar, though I left before the NYU Law cover band took the stage.

On the whole, the day was very impressive. I got the impression that the students were exceedingly smart and accomplished yet down to earth. There really does seem to be a more relaxed air to the school, but not at the expense of rigor.

Also, the administrators were excellent. They were incredibly helpful whenever I had questions and exuded enthusiasm and professionalism. This was a well-planned day and they're surely owed the credit for it.

Feel free to ask questions, or PM me.

birdlaw117 · Post by **birdlaw117** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:25 pm

cawquette wrote:SOMEONE WHO WENT TO ASW TODAY PLEEEEEEEEEASE TELL US DETAILS! share highlights, outfits, vibe of the students...! pleeease please please

Okay, well I just got back to my hotel. I left the bar early (pretty much free drinks and a lot of fun) cuz I have to meet my girlfriend at Penn Station in a few minutes.

The theme of the visit so far seems to be PI and collegial atmosphere. Almost nobody, meaning current and former students plus administration, has talked about firm work before big law. I think they push PI so much that it reduces the percentage o students trying for big law and in turn improves the odds for students going big law or bust. That's just my take on it though.

I'm on my phone so i dont feel like being too lengthy. However, if anyone has specific questions I'd love to help.

cawquette · Post by **cawquette** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:38 pm

thanks for providing feedback! =) enjoy nyc to all those who are there

Stanford4Me · Post by **Stanford4Me** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:08 am

I hope everyone enjoyed their day/night.

If you met me (which you probably wouldn't know if you did or not), I hope I wasn't a huge douche bag.

I hope there weren't NYU students who felt the need to talk down other schools. If there were, I apologize.

I hope you had lots of beer and pizza, and hopefully the cover bands weren't too bad.

If you didn't enjoy your day, I (genuinely) hope you find a school where you feel comfortable!

Edit: Also, to the admits who insisted that my friends and I take multiple shots with you - S4M of tomorrow curses you.

incompetentia · Post by **incompetentia** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:10 am

birdlaw117 wrote: The theme of the visit so far seems to be PI and collegial atmosphere. Almost nobody, meaning current and former students plus administration, has talked about firm work before big law. I think they push PI so much that it reduces the percentage o students trying for big law and in turn improves the odds for students going big law or bust. That's just my take on it though.

This.

As pointed out before, things that were stressed include things like the fact that your section-mates are your friends (not food), and that it's ridiculously easy to connect with alumni all over the place, especially if you're looking at PI. Students were pretty accessible the entire time, which was nice. (Also, it appears law students are assumed to be 21 no matter what.)

I apologize for being so awkward in the first part of the day! I hate loud places with lots of people so things got kind of dicey for me there. Tomorrow looks like it's going to be fun (especially judging by how much some of those people were drinking).

nerdherder · Post by **nerdherder** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:35 am

c_dubya_s wrote:
mst wrote:
champsound wrote:
jpk5372 wrote:I initially read that as "bedazzled" and it made me really happy.
I read that as "Beadazzled"... which is the name of a store near my house which sells beads. It made me kind of confused.
Does this store stay in business? Or is it a mafia front? I just can't imagine that being successful.
It's been there as long as I can remember (approx. 4 years). Dupont Circle has a number of stores that I can't believe stay in business.

EDIT: Dupont Circle in Washington DC. Just in case there's another Dupont Circle out there somewhere.

Oh my god I remember going to a Beadazzled in Baltimore once when I was five. Most random store ever, for the record.

mst · Post by **mst** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:59 am

nerdherder wrote:
c_dubya_s wrote:
mst wrote:
champsound wrote:
I read that as "Beadazzled"... which is the name of a store near my house which sells beads. It made me kind of confused.
Does this store stay in business? Or is it a mafia front? I just can't imagine that being successful.
It's been there as long as I can remember (approx. 4 years). Dupont Circle has a number of stores that I can't believe stay in business.

EDIT: Dupont Circle in Washington DC. Just in case there's another Dupont Circle out there somewhere.
Oh my god I remember going to a Beadazzled in Baltimore once when I was five. Most random store ever, for the record.

Oh god the mafia front is expanding.

c_dubya_s · Post by **c_dubya_s** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:32 am

nerdherder wrote:
c_dubya_s wrote:
mst wrote:
champsound wrote: I read that as "Beadazzled"... which is the name of a store near my house which sells beads. It made me kind of confused.
Does this store stay in business? Or is it a mafia front? I just can't imagine that being successful.
It's been there as long as I can remember (approx. 4 years). Dupont Circle has a number of stores that I can't believe stay in business.

EDIT: Dupont Circle in Washington DC. Just in case there's another Dupont Circle out there somewhere.
Oh my god I remember going to a Beadazzled in Baltimore once when I was five. Most random store ever, for the record.

Just looked it up because I can't believe they have more than one store. They have THREE.
http://www.beadazzled.net/

jpk5372 · Post by **jpk5372** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:38 am

champsound wrote:

Just looked it up because I can't believe they have more than one store. They have THREE.
http://www.beadazzled.net/

I think I just figured out how to fund law school..... anyone want in on starting up a bead store?

mst · Post by **mst** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:45 pm

jpk5372 wrote:
champsound wrote:

Just looked it up because I can't believe they have more than one store. They have THREE.
http://www.beadazzled.net/
I think I just figured out how to fund law school..... anyone want in on starting up a bead store?

Can we just sell kitten mittens instead???

Is your cat making TOO MUCH NOISE?

jpk5372 · Post by **jpk5372** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:01 pm

mst wrote:
jpk5372 wrote:
champsound wrote:

Just looked it up because I can't believe they have more than one store. They have THREE.
http://www.beadazzled.net/
I think I just figured out how to fund law school..... anyone want in on starting up a bead store?
Can we just sell kitten mittens instead???

Is your cat making TOO MUCH NOISE?

If they are bedazzled kitten mittens, I'm there!!! We local business owners/cat enthusiasts need to stick together!

LinzerTorte · Post by **LinzerTorte** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:24 pm

Stuck at work and VERY JELLY of all of you ASW-attenders...pizza and a keg IN the law building sounds awesome.

law_monkey · Post by **law_monkey** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:26 pm

LinzerTorte wrote:Stuck at work and VERY JELLY of all of you ASW-attenders...pizza and a keg IN the law building sounds awesome.

Are you going to one of the other ASWs? I feel like they'll probably do the same for all of us. Otherwise I will be jealous!

timmna · Post by **timmna** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:29 pm

law_monkey wrote:
LinzerTorte wrote:Stuck at work and VERY JELLY of all of you ASW-attenders...pizza and a keg IN the law building sounds awesome.
Are you going to one of the other ASWs? I feel like they'll probably do the same for all of us. Otherwise I will be jealous!

I heard for the March 31 ASW it's a party at the Statue of Liberty...

law_monkey · Post by **law_monkey** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:42 pm

timmna wrote:
law_monkey wrote:
LinzerTorte wrote:Stuck at work and VERY JELLY of all of you ASW-attenders...pizza and a keg IN the law building sounds awesome.
Are you going to one of the other ASWs? I feel like they'll probably do the same for all of us. Otherwise I will be jealous!
I heard for the March 31 ASW it's a party at the Statue of Liberty...

Seeing as how this is the webz so it's hard to gauge tone, I'm going to guess this is sarcasm here. But that is not going to prevent me from being idiotically gullible and hoping this is true. Minus the fact that I don't think the Statue of Liberty people will ever let a bunch of pre-law students party there. That'd be too freaking awesome!

nerdherder · Post by **nerdherder** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:28 pm

law_monkey wrote:
timmna wrote:
law_monkey wrote:
LinzerTorte wrote:Stuck at work and VERY JELLY of all of you ASW-attenders...pizza and a keg IN the law building sounds awesome.
Are you going to one of the other ASWs? I feel like they'll probably do the same for all of us. Otherwise I will be jealous!
I heard for the March 31 ASW it's a party at the Statue of Liberty...
Seeing as how this is the webz so it's hard to gauge tone, I'm going to guess this is sarcasm here. But that is not going to prevent me from being idiotically gullible and hoping this is true. Minus the fact that I don't think the Statue of Liberty people will ever let a bunch of pre-law students party there. That'd be too freaking awesome!

We can still dream...

birdlaw117 · Post by **birdlaw117** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:05 pm

So I figures I would give you guys a quick summary of day 2. It started with breakfast and mingling with some professors and then a sort of welcome speech/sales pitch from Dean Revesz. He had a lot of great things to say and discussed how they have been able to lure great professors away from other top schools. All in all that was a very impressive speech.

After that I checked out a corporate law panel and then a tax law class. Both were interesting but not terribly entertaining (I'm planning on going into tax law).

After this we had guided tours (it's a very cool area). Following that I had lunch where we ate with professors. I spoke with this professor about international law and it was very informative (I'd love to answer specific questions if you guys have any).

In the afternoon there was a panel with two current judges and they discussed topics varying from mentoring to how to best position yourself for a clerkship. This was perhaps the most interesting thing I attended in my two days. Hearing the career path and stories from these judges was truly impressive and pretty inspiring.

I also attended a presentation/discussion with professor Richard Epstein. He was very impressive. He is just one of those individuals you walk away from going "wow, he is an absolutely brilliant person." he's taught like 30+ different courses and just seems to be able to relate everything to everything else.

It finished up with a little reception and we got to chat with some more current students. Overall I had a lot of fun and definitely think NYU will probably he where I end up. Feel free to PM me questions or ask them in here and I can try to answer them as best I can

incompetentia · Post by **incompetentia** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:14 am

Second day had a LOT more variety than the first. I pretty much attended nothing listed above by birdlaw after the dean's schtick at the beginning...started out with a con law class (historical basis or lack thereof for the decision, as well as pros and cons of having to deal on the court for a unanimous decision), followed by a panel on clerkships (somebody remarked that we were all future gunners, probably not that far from the truth considering some of the people asking some of the questions). Prof on the panel was working with national security and various policy issues (vaguely something I'm interested in) and was hilarious as hell.

Had lunch with a professor who worked primarily with contracts (and was a previous graduate), and she made the entire experience sound extremely non-threatening (seems to be a theme for NYU that they stress like crazy). She was working with the updating of contracts due to technological advances, which is not really my interest at all, but she made it sound like there will be something to latch onto fairly quickly in school even if you have no idea what you want.

Afterward, a couple students talked about their experiences (supposedly a tour, but when the campus is 2 buildings); one did mention that because of the high PI component of the school (20%+ compared to maybe 5-8%), the 43% number in NLJ250 placement is slightly deflated.

I had a session on the LRAP that NYU offers...holy balls prospective law students cannot math AT ALL. Although potentially not as exciting as the current judges, this was extremely informative for somebody who may be ending up in one of the repayment programs.

Thecilent made my residence hall tour really awkward with a well-placed comment, and I'll leave it at that.

Finally, I attended a session hosted by the public interest law people, which was great. Seems like there is a ridiculous amount of support for all students to get into something that is interesting to them (as early as first-semester 1L even), and that the alumni network in terms of placing into a PI job afterward is pretty extensive.

NYU was probably near-even with CLS going in, but after stopping in at Columbia and then attending this thing, the scales may be starting to tip.

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