Don't worry, you might get off the WL.ExpectLess wrote:Unusual does not mean holistic, and it gets old to hear people defend Berkeley as such. They reject plenty of people with stellar numbers and great softs (people who get into Stanford, Yale, etc.). They're just very URM heavy and very California heavy in admissions. That's not holistic, it's just different criteria.fish52 wrote:Tons of cross-admits. These are pretty much the only two schools that have legitimate holistic admissions processes (Boalt a bit more so than Stanford). Also, rivalries tend to be pretty consuming hahacardinals1989 wrote:Amusing moment of the day-Berkeley FB group is discussing SLS.
And to suggest that every other school is not holistic? And then to quantify the holistic-ness by saying that Boalt is "a bit more" holistic than Stanford? Pretty silly post.
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URM heavy? I thought Berkeley didn't even see the race/ethnicity of its applicants upon review of application for admittance (when I sent my app, that section automatically blanked out). They use a socio-economic questionnaire instead, which one might argue is more holistic.ExpectLess wrote:Unusual does not mean holistic, and it gets old to hear people defend Berkeley as such. They reject plenty of people with stellar numbers and great softs (people who get into Stanford, Yale, etc.). They're just very URM heavy and very California heavy in admissions. That's not holistic, it's just different criteria.fish52 wrote:Tons of cross-admits. These are pretty much the only two schools that have legitimate holistic admissions processes (Boalt a bit more so than Stanford). Also, rivalries tend to be pretty consuming hahacardinals1989 wrote:Amusing moment of the day-Berkeley FB group is discussing SLS.
And to suggest that every other school is not holistic? And then to quantify the holistic-ness by saying that Boalt is "a bit more" holistic than Stanford? Pretty silly post.
As for the California heavy thing, do you have data to support this? I'm not trying to argue, I'm merely interested in this information.
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Already withdrew.fish52 wrote:Don't worry, you might get off the WL.ExpectLess wrote:Unusual does not mean holistic, and it gets old to hear people defend Berkeley as such. They reject plenty of people with stellar numbers and great softs (people who get into Stanford, Yale, etc.). They're just very URM heavy and very California heavy in admissions. That's not holistic, it's just different criteria.fish52 wrote:Tons of cross-admits. These are pretty much the only two schools that have legitimate holistic admissions processes (Boalt a bit more so than Stanford). Also, rivalries tend to be pretty consuming hahacardinals1989 wrote:Amusing moment of the day-Berkeley FB group is discussing SLS.
And to suggest that every other school is not holistic? And then to quantify the holistic-ness by saying that Boalt is "a bit more" holistic than Stanford? Pretty silly post.

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They probably are California heavy... it's a state school. I'm sure Michigan and UVA have a higher proportion of in-state students, also. Schools that are heavily subsidized (granted, this is slowly becoming a thing of the past for Berkeley) have somewhat of an obligation to allow greater access to individuals from that state. I have no problem with this-- Berkeley serves the state of Californian and is still considered one of the best academic institutions in the world.BackToTheOldHouse wrote:URM heavy? I thought Berkeley didn't even see the race/ethnicity of its applicants upon review of application for admittance (when I sent my app, that section automatically blanked out). They use a socio-economic questionnaire instead, which one might argue is more holistic.ExpectLess wrote:Unusual does not mean holistic, and it gets old to hear people defend Berkeley as such. They reject plenty of people with stellar numbers and great softs (people who get into Stanford, Yale, etc.). They're just very URM heavy and very California heavy in admissions. That's not holistic, it's just different criteria.fish52 wrote:Tons of cross-admits. These are pretty much the only two schools that have legitimate holistic admissions processes (Boalt a bit more so than Stanford). Also, rivalries tend to be pretty consuming hahacardinals1989 wrote:Amusing moment of the day-Berkeley FB group is discussing SLS.
And to suggest that every other school is not holistic? And then to quantify the holistic-ness by saying that Boalt is "a bit more" holistic than Stanford? Pretty silly post.
As for the California heavy thing, do you have data to support this? I'm not trying to argue, I'm merely interested in this information.
Edit- Ugh I look like a Boalt troll. Nonetheless, Dean Deal please call me. haha
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Nope, all anecdotal, although they do have an unusually large percentage of the class as California residents. This may simply be due to self-selection, but check out LSN and the acceptance trend of California residents might surprise you. I definitely was too narrow in saying URM heavy--what I should have said was favorable toward those who, as revealed through their PS or SEC questionnaire, overcame significant hardship or were part of an underrepresented group generally.BackToTheOldHouse wrote:URM heavy? I thought Berkeley didn't even see the race/ethnicity of its applicants upon review of application for admittance (when I sent my app, that section automatically blanked out). They use a socio-economic questionnaire instead, which one might argue is more holistic.ExpectLess wrote:Unusual does not mean holistic, and it gets old to hear people defend Berkeley as such. They reject plenty of people with stellar numbers and great softs (people who get into Stanford, Yale, etc.). They're just very URM heavy and very California heavy in admissions. That's not holistic, it's just different criteria.fish52 wrote:Tons of cross-admits. These are pretty much the only two schools that have legitimate holistic admissions processes (Boalt a bit more so than Stanford). Also, rivalries tend to be pretty consuming hahacardinals1989 wrote:Amusing moment of the day-Berkeley FB group is discussing SLS.
And to suggest that every other school is not holistic? And then to quantify the holistic-ness by saying that Boalt is "a bit more" holistic than Stanford? Pretty silly post.
As for the California heavy thing, do you have data to support this? I'm not trying to argue, I'm merely interested in this information.
This was just my opinion about how Berkeley's process seems. My point was, however, that Berkeley has different criteria than other schools, and to simply call it holistic because it's different is to misuse the word.
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Berekeley has to rely on the diversity statement to guage URM-ness as a "soft" factor since they can't legally use race as a "hard" admissions factor.BackToTheOldHouse wrote:URM heavy? I thought Berkeley didn't even see the race/ethnicity of its applicants upon review of application for admittance (when I sent my app, that section automatically blanked out). They use a socio-economic questionnaire instead, which one might argue is more holistic.ExpectLess wrote:Unusual does not mean holistic, and it gets old to hear people defend Berkeley as such. They reject plenty of people with stellar numbers and great softs (people who get into Stanford, Yale, etc.). They're just very URM heavy and very California heavy in admissions. That's not holistic, it's just different criteria.fish52 wrote:Tons of cross-admits. These are pretty much the only two schools that have legitimate holistic admissions processes (Boalt a bit more so than Stanford). Also, rivalries tend to be pretty consuming hahacardinals1989 wrote:Amusing moment of the day-Berkeley FB group is discussing SLS.
And to suggest that every other school is not holistic? And then to quantify the holistic-ness by saying that Boalt is "a bit more" holistic than Stanford? Pretty silly post.
As for the California heavy thing, do you have data to support this? I'm not trying to argue, I'm merely interested in this information.
Its pretty clear that they have found a way to keep their URM numbers up, since they haven't declined substantially since the implementation of the non-discrimination legislation.
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DLS on status checker with no email or phone call is a rejection, correct? (very much expecting this one, not particularly traumatized, just want to make sure.)
Thanks!
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Unfortunately so. Sorry to hear it.cassidylane wrote:DLS on status checker with no email or phone call is a rejection, correct? (very much expecting this one, not particularly traumatized, just want to make sure.)
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On another note: Your profile pic really looks like the Carnegie Building at Pomona College. Is it?
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txl wrote:Unfortunately so. Sorry to hear it.cassidylane wrote:DLS on status checker with no email or phone call is a rejection, correct? (very much expecting this one, not particularly traumatized, just want to make sure.)
Thanks!
On another note: Your profile pic really looks like the Carnegie Building at Pomona College. Is it?
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I was '09. You?
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Will you please share with us what is your UR date?cassidylane wrote:DLS on status checker with no email or phone call is a rejection, correct? (very much expecting this one, not particularly traumatized, just want to make sure.)
Thanks!
Sorry for the rejection.

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SLS2011 wrote:Will you please share with us what is your UR date?cassidylane wrote:DLS on status checker with no email or phone call is a rejection, correct? (very much expecting this one, not particularly traumatized, just want to make sure.)
Thanks!
Sorry for the rejection.
Umm....I'm not sure what my UR date was, I think sometime in late January. My numbers are not spectacular for SLS, I applied based on practice LSATs when in fact I did a little worse on the actual test.
txl I pmed you so as not to burden the thread with Pomona talk

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I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.

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QFPSLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.
(You are welcome, all.)
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The lottery is a tax on people who can't do math. Good luck!SLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.
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Nice.SLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.

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The odd is 1 in 176 million (so apparently some people can do math). But, from time to time some people win.src42 wrote:The lottery is a tax on people who can't do math. Good luck!SLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.
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Hahaha. You better winSLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.

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Just saw the dreaded dls. Expected, but painful. Complete 1/31
Good luck to anyone still standing
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Sorry to hear thatDreamsInDigital wrote:Just saw the dreaded dls. Expected, but painful. Complete 1/31
Good luck to anyone still standing

Question (for anyone): Do you get an email when your status updates, or do you just have to discover that nice little surprise by checking your status checker?
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Status checker only, I believe.fish52 wrote:Sorry to hear thatDreamsInDigital wrote:Just saw the dreaded dls. Expected, but painful. Complete 1/31
Good luck to anyone still standing
Question (for anyone): Do you get an email when your status updates, or do you just have to discover that nice little surprise by checking your status checker?
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no email or anything. just the split second of confusion as I open up the status checker and it looks blank...then the sinking realization when I look up to the left hand corner and see that taunting message in red.fish52 wrote:Sorry to hear thatDreamsInDigital wrote:Just saw the dreaded dls. Expected, but painful. Complete 1/31
Good luck to anyone still standing
Question (for anyone): Do you get an email when your status updates, or do you just have to discover that nice little surprise by checking your status checker?
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In fact, unless I'm forgetting something, in this case, SLS2011 bought $1.13 of Expected Value for just $1. With 1/176M odds, a $200M payout, and a $1 ticket cost, the Net Expected Monetary Value of a the ticket is $0.13 ($1.136 - $1), so this is a good / mathematically sound bet. The stats people should be buying a ticket! Good luck SLS2011!SLS2011 wrote:The odd is 1 in 176 million (so apparently some people can do math). But, from time to time some people win.src42 wrote:The lottery is a tax on people who can't do math. Good luck!SLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.

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What does it say?DreamsInDigital wrote:no email or anything. just the split second of confusing as I open up the status checker and it looks blank...then the sinking realization when I look up to the left hand corner and see that taunting message in red.fish52 wrote:Sorry to hear thatDreamsInDigital wrote:Just saw the dreaded dls. Expected, but painful. Complete 1/31
Good luck to anyone still standing
Question (for anyone): Do you get an email when your status updates, or do you just have to discover that nice little surprise by checking your status checker?
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Going to sell one of my kidneys and buy some lotto tickets.JeNeRegretteRien wrote:In fact, unless I'm forgetting something, in this case, SLS2011 bought $1.13 of Expected Value for just $1. With 1/176M odds, a $200M payout, and a $1 ticket cost, the Net Expected Monetary Value of a the ticket is $0.13 ($1.136 - $1), so this is a good / mathematically sound bet. The stats people should be buying a ticket! Good luck SLS2011!SLS2011 wrote:The odd is 1 in 176 million (so apparently some people can do math). But, from time to time some people win.src42 wrote:The lottery is a tax on people who can't do math. Good luck!SLS2011 wrote:I just bought a Mega Million Lottery ticket. It's for $200 million. If I win, I will pay the entire tuition (including the cost of living) for the class of 2014.
BackToTheOldHouse, Knock, R6, and Cardinal: you will be part of the pack as well.
And yes, I will still go to SLS even after winning the jackpot.
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