WUSTL c/o 2018 Applicants Forum

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[edawg212]

is the the waiver/invitation to go down selective/indicative at all?

[chuckbass]

In my "why wustl" essay I talk about specific courses and clinics I'm interested in, and a little about the location. Do you guys think there is anything else I should add?

I think that is basically what they want to hear. You should be good. There are always other things you could add, but I would stay with the things that sincerely interest you in WASHU.

I agree, sounds good to me!

Thanks both! Would either of you be willing to read through my essay and call me out on anything that sounds insincere or bullsh*t?

Copy and paste it in to a PM to me.

[chuckbass]

Some applicants are being offered the $ AND hotel accommodations.

Anything for people who have been accepted? Planning to visit and it would be great if I could get some financial assistance!

If it's anything like last year, they'll offer travel stipends to some early next year to come visit, and most people used it for ASW iirc.

I wouldn't worry about it too much right now though. I actually wasn't given a travel stipend last year, but I'm here with $$ so not getting $200 wasn't really a big deal, and you should still visit if you're interested in the school regardless of a stipend.

I also wouldn't expect much in the mail anytime soon. WUSTL isn't big on snail mail, and last cycle the only thing I really got was an acceptance letter a couple of weeks after getting in. Everything else was through email.

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[LET'S GET IT]

Scottiboo do schollys come via email?

Yep

[chuckbass]

Scottiboo do schollys come via email?

Yep

Actually it's just cash in ur mailbox. Hope you have a big mailbox Bex

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[peachesthedoge]

congrats to the new admits!!

and scotty you should make a poll or something on here

[greenngold1377]

Hi all,

so I never received a follow-up email from my interviewer after our phone conversation (he said he'd be sending one immediately after, but it's been over a week). My application status did change after the interview was completed, but other than that there hasn't been any movement on my app.

Anyone else run into the same thing?

I'd email admissions to follow up, but I didn't catch my interviewer's name (it wasn't Mary Ann Clifford or Krystl Orr, it was a younger sounding guy).

Thanks!

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[LS2018]

Did any of you matriculate with non-traditional students? If so, do you know anything about their numbers or previous careers? Thanks!

[DoveBodyWash]

Did any of you matriculate with non-traditional students? If so, do you know anything about their numbers or previous careers? Thanks!

define non-traditional

[LS2018]

Sorry for being vague - "older" students, married with children, etc

[DoveBodyWash]

Sorry for being vague - "older" students, married with children, etc

There were a handful of older students (some with families, others just married, and others just old) in my 1L class. Numbers-wise I don't think there was any difference between them and us. Can't say with 100% confidence what they were doing before law school but i think some of them were doing some kind of venture work and another did a lot of work for/with the university.

I know more about my 2L classmates here at UChicago. My friends who were 28+ when they started law school came in from other career paths like management consulting, investment banking, accounting, Ph.D in some science stuff. I'm not sure what their numbers were, but I will say that they enjoyed more success with firms (not litigation though) during OCI.

[LS2018]

Ok, thanks

[DoveBodyWash]

Ok, thanks

oh and army veterans (both at WashU and at UChicago)

[LS2018]

That's good to hear - we love our Vets!

I was just curious because I got the impression from Will in admissions that they were a bit more lenient with non-traditional student acceptance if the work history (and some other factors) were good enough to offset at, or below, median numbers - to be clear, he did not state that outright, he just kept referring to an "holistic" approach in admissions...keeping my fingers crossed I suppose

[DoveBodyWash]

That's good to hear - we love our Vets!

I was just curious because I got the impression from Will in admissions that they were a bit more lenient with non-traditional student acceptance if the work history (and some other factors) were good enough to offset at, or below, median numbers - to be clear, he did not state that outright, he just kept referring to an "holistic" approach in admissions...keeping my fingers crossed I suppose

Ohhh...yeah I think there is more breathing room for undergrad GPA's for applicants who have been out of school longer (for obvious reasons). I'm not sure about the LSAT, but you could overcome a below median LSAT as well depending on your work experience. Schools want to protect their medians sure, but they're also thinking about job placement. If you have some kind of work experience that will make you more competitive in the job market then it would be easy to justify admission even though you have lower numbers. They can always admit more K-JD's to offset your numbers or something

[LS2018]

I do hope you're right! I am only able to apply to two law schools, WUSTL and SLU, because I am married with three little boys and we have no plans of moving. I have wanted to attend law school for years, but having children at a younger age was more of a priority, so that's what we did. I've never regretted our choice for a moment, I love being a mother, but I must admit my brain has been in shock since studying for the LSAT - definitely now utilizing long dormant sections of my brain, ha

I drive by WashU frequently on the way to appointments in the city and I just love it, it's so completely beautiful - I would be thrilled to be admitted, but I'm not sure how well I can compete with the younger kids

[valen]

congrats to the new admits!!

and scotty you should make a poll or something on here

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I do hope you're right! I am only able to apply to two law schools, WUSTL and SLU, because I am married with three little boys and we have no plans of moving. I have wanted to attend law school for years, but having children at a younger age was more of a priority, so that's what we did. I've never regretted our choice for a moment, I love being a mother, but I must admit my brain has been in shock since studying for the LSAT - definitely now utilizing long dormant sections of my brain, ha

I drive by WashU frequently on the way to appointments in the city and I just love it, it's so completely beautiful - I would be thrilled to be admitted, but I'm not sure how well I can compete with the younger kids

So I guess this would be me. I'm late 20's (thanks for making me feel old), married with kids. I have a good work history (worked in the banking industry and was promoted three times #humblebrag). This DEFINATELY make a difference with my cycle. I got into a couple schools I had no business getting in to (below both medians non URM) and got bigger scholarships offers than I deserved at others. The admission people at multiple schools, WASHU included, basically told me the work history gave me a bump because it would make me more marketable to employers than K-JD's or people with non "real jobs". Sorry kiddos, no one cares that you worked at Best Buy.

As far as having a family, it is benefit at times and a challenge at times. It is a benefit in that I have no desire to go out binge drinking (not often anyways) and couldn't even if I did want to. Also, I come home every day and see why I came to law school and why I'm working so hard.

The downside is that I don't have as much time to devote to school as a 22 year old single guy/gal. I have to make time with my family, which forces me to be more efficient with my time at school. I leave school at 4 or 5, come home, and it's wife/kids time until they go to bed which leads to some late nights of reading. Also, I don't make it to nearly as much of the networking/fun stuff as others, which is really probably not good.

Fwiw, admissions told me that older students or students with families tend to do well. I would guess it's because we thought long and hard about coming to law school, and in some cases have more at stake, or at minimum are more aware of what's at stake. Not that the younger students don't know, most of them do, but some are just oblivious.

Also, I was in a similar situation to you in that I couldn't pick up and move across country (although I did move from 5 hours away), so some of my offers were basically non-starters that I just tried to leverage for $.

Sorry if I'm rambling and for the grammatical errors, i'm on my phone. Feel free to Pm if you have any specific questions.

[chuckbass]

I think it all balances out, considering K-JDs aren't as used to having to be so efficient (generalizing)

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I think it all balances out, considering K-JDs aren't as used to having to be so efficient (generalizing)

Yeah that makes sense.

Also, forgot to mention, but there are plenty of people here in their late 20's/married, all that. So you wouldn't be alone by any means.

[chuckbass]

I think it all balances out, considering K-JDs aren't as used to having to be so efficient (generalizing)

Yeah that makes sense.

Also, forgot to mention, but there are plenty of people here in their late 20's/married, all that. So you wouldn't be alone by any means.

Yea and also I'd say that they're not shunned socially or anything. One of my best friends is almost 30 and I'm K-JD. The only thing is that clearly kids are gonna keep you away from a number of the social activities, but I don't think that's detrimental or anything.