Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014) Forum
- brich256
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Just to be sure, we haven't seen any JS2's from people that had a JS1 after 12/10, right?
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
a current 1L posted in this thread that they heard last year on Friday before winter break
I realize we're focused on JS1/JS2's and that's what this thread is for
but it's also a place where we can help each other maintain perspective
regardless, there is already plenty to celebrate with family and friends this holiday break without needing a JS1 or JS2
just keep that in mind as we move into 2014, and don't let the absence of a JS1 or JS2 diminish this very special time of the year, which should be all about hope, faith, and love
I realize we're focused on JS1/JS2's and that's what this thread is for
but it's also a place where we can help each other maintain perspective
regardless, there is already plenty to celebrate with family and friends this holiday break without needing a JS1 or JS2
just keep that in mind as we move into 2014, and don't let the absence of a JS1 or JS2 diminish this very special time of the year, which should be all about hope, faith, and love
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.rseaney wrote:lawschool22 wrote:I think it's closer to about 342 if that makes you guys feel any betterscoobers wrote:this.paglababa wrote:Man i can't believe ~400 JS1s won't get JS2. This scares me.. (1200 estimated JS1's minus 858 offers last cycle)
Are we pretty certain that this year will have 1200 JS1s like last year did? Also, anyone have any idea what portion of those 858 JS2s have been filled, and how many are admitted off the waitlist later on?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
There are 149 members of the Facebook group, but obviously not everyone admitted has joined, and probably like 7 or 8 of those are current students there to help.rseaney wrote:
Are we pretty certain that this year will have 1200 JS1s like last year did? Also, anyone have any idea what portion of those 858 JS2s have been filled, and how many are admitted off the waitlist later on?
For reference, there were (or are now, at least) 641 members of last years Facebook group.
When I was admitted, I got an email about an hour or so later with a link to the Facebook group, and after I sent the request I was approved a few hours later. I suspect many people haven't joined it yet.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
someone post a js2 so i know whether to be anxious all day or not....
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- lawschool22
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
This scares me.cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
The post JS1 wait is a whole different level of Dante's inferno. I keep thinking I sounded completely retarded. I wasn't even sure where to look on my laptop. Also my interview felt ridiculously short.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
This Christmas break is going to be tough 

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Do we know if they'll be in on Monday?
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Don't worry man, I think that's how everyone feels. My interview flew by.paglababa wrote:The post JS1 wait is a whole different level of Dante's inferno. I keep thinking I sounded completely retarded. I wasn't even sure where to look on my laptop. Also my interview felt ridiculously short.
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.lawschool22 wrote:This scares me.cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Harvard's staff vacation is from 12/24 to 1/1, for what it's worth. So it's possible.drawstring wrote:Do we know if they'll be in on Monday?
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
+1Gary wrote:someone post a js2 so i know whether to be anxious all day or not....
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- drawstring
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
I've got the feeling there will be no JS2s today. Please Monday!!!
January looks like a horrible month for those who applied in October
http://mylsn.info/whenwilliknow.php
January looks like a horrible month for those who applied in October
http://mylsn.info/whenwilliknow.php
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Yeah I think we would have heard some rumblings by now.drawstring wrote:I've got the feeling there will be no JS2s today. Please Monday!!!
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.Workingtitle wrote:Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.lawschool22 wrote:This scares me.cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
You're still scaring me cotigercotiger wrote:I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.Workingtitle wrote:Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.lawschool22 wrote:This scares me.cotiger wrote:
LSN typically has 15-20% of the Harvard acceptances, which means there should be 130-170 acceptances on there by the end. LSN lists 59 acceptances thus far, so probably about 40% of the total offers have been made.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... SlE&gid=30
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Doing my best!lawschool22 wrote:You're still scaring me cotigercotiger wrote:I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.Workingtitle wrote: Maybe more people are just using LSN this year? It's tough for me to imagine over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the FB group.

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
Well I'm off.
If I don't get a JS2 on Monday then January becomes a dangerous time for me. Good luck to everyone!
If I don't get a JS2 on Monday then January becomes a dangerous time for me. Good luck to everyone!
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
cotiger wrote: I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.



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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
One thing I just thought of that made me feel better. We're already four months into the cycle. There are only two more full months that people can submit. So actually it makes a little sense, if anything by that measure we are a little behind schedule.koalacity wrote:cotiger wrote: I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.![]()
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
4 months in but we're not anywhere close to 2/3rds of the way through. They start accepting apps in Sept but don't start reviewing until mid Oct. then you figure there's a 2 week gap between invite and JS1. So a better way to look at it is that so far we've spanned the Oct 15<->Dec 10 interviews. Which is two months. Dunno if applications are frontloaded or backloaded but they conduct JS1s well into Mar/Apr so there's still late Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, early Apr. or 4 months of JS1s to go through. so if anything they're probably 33-40% the way through, and 45%+ isn't a comforting figure to look at for those who are still waiting
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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
This is assuming constant volume, which is most likely false. I'd say they've received about half their applications already, and given about 40% of their decision. They're pretty much on track. Everyone needs to stop fretting. It's Christmas, enjoyprospect2014 wrote:4 months in but we're not anywhere close to 2/3rds of the way through. They start accepting apps in Sept but don't start reviewing until mid Oct. then you figure there's a 2 week gap between invite and JS1. So a better way to look at it is that so far we've spanned the Oct 15<->Dec 10 interviews. Which is two months. Dunno if applications are frontloaded or backloaded but they conduct JS1s well into Mar/Apr so there's still late Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, early Apr. or 4 months of JS1s to go through. so if anything they're probably 33-40% the way through, and 45%+ isn't a comforting figure to look at for those who are still waiting

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
If Harvard has accepted 45% of their traditional 850ish acceptances, then that means that there have been about 382 people accepted. Considering that there are only 150 on the Harvard Class of 2017 Facebook group, that 382 number seems exceptionally high.cotiger wrote: I don't know why that would be the case. And anyway, it's probably underreported right now because there are some people who haven't updated yet or don't update until the end of their cycle. The last three years have seen an average of 134 acceptances on LSN out of an average of 855 acceptances. If everyone on LSN has reported, we're 45% of the way to 134. If not everyone has reported yet, then we're even higher. Regardless, even if there's a higher usage of LSN this year, the number still is probably not less than 40%.
I think that there are a lot of reasons why we cannot extrapolate out of the LSN data like that. Maybe people on LSN are more likely to apply early and be accepted early, so that right now they are reflecting 75% of the total amount of people that have been accepted. Then, as more people who applied later get accepted, that percentage will decrease to reflect what it traditionally has in the past. Or, like I said, maybe these law school admissions websites are growing in popularity, so more people are using LSN.
I don't really know, but I think it makes more sense that the LSN data is not reflecting the proper percentage of those who have been accepted than to think that over half of the people who have been accepted haven't joined the Facebook group. I would think that people would be chomping at the bit to get on that group

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Re: Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014)
well there's -receiving- half your applications and then there's getting to JS1 half your potential admittees. if you think they've already done 600 JS1s...edwardt1988 wrote:This is assuming constant volume, which is most likely false. I'd say they've received about half their applications already, and given about 40% of their decision. They're pretty much on track. Everyone needs to stop fretting. It's Christmas, enjoyprospect2014 wrote:4 months in but we're not anywhere close to 2/3rds of the way through. They start accepting apps in Sept but don't start reviewing until mid Oct. then you figure there's a 2 week gap between invite and JS1. So a better way to look at it is that so far we've spanned the Oct 15<->Dec 10 interviews. Which is two months. Dunno if applications are frontloaded or backloaded but they conduct JS1s well into Mar/Apr so there's still late Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, early Apr. or 4 months of JS1s to go through. so if anything they're probably 33-40% the way through, and 45%+ isn't a comforting figure to look at for those who are still waiting
139 FBers, maybe 180-200 total JS2s, so 400 JS1s or 33% is a generous estimate
working title: what are your chances? go to LSN. But....we cannot extrapolate because LSN doesn't capture X Y Z variables. just an inconsistency there
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