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Post by longlivetheking » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:53 pm

does anyone have a feeling that nyu is focusing on gpa and not givnig a flying fuck to lsat.

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Post by TexasAggie13 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:53 pm

Can we assume most people still waiting are WL/dings? I have been UR2 since 2/7. Currently accepted to CLS and UCHI and would love to get the trifecta, but I am losing quickly losing hope.

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Post by ManOfTheMinute » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:19 pm

TexasAggie13 wrote:Can we assume most people still waiting are WL/dings? I have been UR2 since 2/7. Currently accepted to CLS and UCHI and would love to get the trifecta, but I am losing quickly losing hope.
Like you'd take NYU over UChi or CLS - you'd have to be crazy!

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Post by banjo » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:29 pm

He might get lots more money at NYU -- who knows?

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Post by KingFish » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:33 pm

ManOfTheMinute wrote:
TexasAggie13 wrote:Can we assume most people still waiting are WL/dings? I have been UR2 since 2/7. Currently accepted to CLS and UCHI and would love to get the trifecta, but I am losing quickly losing hope.
Like you'd take NYU over UChi or CLS - you'd have to be crazy!
Chicago has graded legal writing, NYU doesn't. Supposedly that's a big deal according to non 0L's.

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Post by toothbrush » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:38 pm

ANY movement ?

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Post by lawsch16 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:46 pm

Went UR2 on February 21. No changes since. Love it.

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Post by bananapudding88 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:58 pm

Was dinged a while ago, but fiance had an update today. He was previously UR2 1/18.

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Post by LRGhost » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:00 pm

toothbrush wrote:ANY movement ?
It's probably just gonna be WL/dings at this point :/

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Post by toothbrush » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:36 pm

LRGhost wrote:
toothbrush wrote:ANY movement ?
It's probably just gonna be WL/dings at this point :/
no no no..

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Post by gfd973 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:37 pm

KingFish wrote:
ManOfTheMinute wrote:
TexasAggie13 wrote:Can we assume most people still waiting are WL/dings? I have been UR2 since 2/7. Currently accepted to CLS and UCHI and would love to get the trifecta, but I am losing quickly losing hope.
Like you'd take NYU over UChi or CLS - you'd have to be crazy!
Chicago has graded legal writing, NYU doesn't. Supposedly that's a big deal according to non 0L's.
All of my friends at Chi who picked it over NYU say this. Given that I've only gotten into NYU so far there's not much of a choice, but I at least understand the argument for why it should be a consideration...don't necessarily subscribe to it though.

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Post by hohenheim » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:44 pm

LRGhost wrote:
toothbrush wrote:ANY movement ?
It's probably just gonna be WL/dings at this point :/
Probably mostly true, but we're still short of last year's admit total (not counting waitlist-admits)

2012-2013
Admits so far: 298
Average LSAT/GPA: 171.8/3.78
Median LSAT/GPA: 172/3.8

2011-2012
Total (non-waitlist) admits: 322
Average LSAT/GPA: 173/3.78
Median LSAT/GPA: 173/3.82

298/322=92.5% of expected admits, so unless class size is dropping, we can probably expect a few more.

Also, it looks like NYU is probably going to be at least a 171 if not lower (since that 173 LSAT average for admits last year only resulted in a 171 for actual matriculants)

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Post by ph5354a » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:48 pm

Nice work. NYU has a history of grabbing splitters (especially 174+ with low GPAs) off the WL in June. Their strategy may be to stay as close to both medians for as long as possible, then grab splitters as needed over the summer to boost their LSAT median.

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Post by toothbrush » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:56 pm

hohenheim wrote:
LRGhost wrote:
toothbrush wrote:ANY movement ?
It's probably just gonna be WL/dings at this point :/
Probably mostly true, but we're still short of last year's admit total (not counting waitlist-admits)

2012-2013
Admits so far: 298
Average LSAT/GPA: 171.8/3.78
Median LSAT/GPA: 172/3.8

2011-2012
Total (non-waitlist) admits: 322
Average LSAT/GPA: 173/3.78
Median LSAT/GPA: 173/3.82

298/322=92.5% of expected admits, so unless class size is dropping, we can probably expect a few more.

Also, it looks like NYU is probably going to be at least a 171 if not lower (since that 173 LSAT average for admits last year only resulted in a 171 for actual matriculants)
thanks for this. i saw a similar version of this in the uChi thread and was hoping for an NYU.

Given the increasing propensity (is that a fucking word to be used here?) of being using LSN wouldn't we actually expect the total # of applicants, minus the chance of class size dropping, to be a bit HIGHER this year?

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Post by LRGhost » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:21 pm

toothbrush wrote: thanks for this. i saw a similar version of this in the uChi thread and was hoping for an NYU.

Given the increasing propensity (is that a fucking word to be used here?) of being using LSN wouldn't we actually expect the total # of applicants, minus the chance of class size dropping, to be a bit HIGHER this year?
Are there that many more people on LSN this year than last? Please don't cut class sizes :(

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Post by sc-123 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:34 pm

This is just hopeful speculation, but I don't think NYU seems like a place that would cut class sizes, even at risk of falling medians, unless they were seriously threatened of falling out of the CCN cluster. Law school is still a cash cow, and NYU has need of cash cows with its aggressive expansion plans. Again, just hopeful speculation while I wait for my WL/ding.

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Post by Crowing » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:36 pm

LRGhost wrote:
toothbrush wrote: thanks for this. i saw a similar version of this in the uChi thread and was hoping for an NYU.

Given the increasing propensity (is that a fucking word to be used here?) of being using LSN wouldn't we actually expect the total # of applicants, minus the chance of class size dropping, to be a bit HIGHER this year?
Are there that many more people on LSN this year than last? Please don't cut class sizes :(
There are fewer people on LSN this year but obvs that doesn't really mean anything considering there are also fewer applicants. I don't know if LSN users as a percentage of the total applicant pool are up or not though.

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Post by LRGhost » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:54 pm

sc-123 wrote:This is just hopeful speculation, but I don't think NYU seems like a place that would cut class sizes, even at risk of falling medians, unless they were seriously threatened of falling out of the CCN cluster. Law school is still a cash cow, and NYU has need of cash cows with its aggressive expansion plans. Again, just hopeful speculation while I wait for my WL/ding.
I don't think there is any real danger of them falling out of CCN.

It's so weird and selfish to not want law schools to cut class sizes but ugh.

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Post by mantunes » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:18 pm

been under review since 12/26. is that a bad sign?

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Post by longlivetheking » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:56 pm

(since that 173 LSAT average for admits last year only resulted in a 171 for actual matriculants)
did not understand this. can someone elaborate

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longlivetheking wrote:
(since that 173 LSAT average for admits last year only resulted in a 171 for actual matriculants)
did not understand this. can someone elaborate
Basically, the average LSAT of everyone they admitted was 173. The average LSAT of the people who actually attended was 171. So basically a bunch of people with better lsats were admitted but went elsewhere.

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Ahhhhhh just got accepted!!! Stats/dates in profile.

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Post by longlivetheking » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:00 pm

Micdiddy wrote:
longlivetheking wrote:
(since that 173 LSAT average for admits last year only resulted in a 171 for actual matriculants)
did not understand this. can someone elaborate
Basically, the average LSAT of everyone they admitted was 173. The average LSAT of the people who actually attended was 171. So basically a bunch of people with better lsats were admitted but went elsewhere.
i thought there was a natural skew towards more highly qualified applicants on LSN.

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Post by hohenheim » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:03 pm

longlivetheking wrote:
Micdiddy wrote:
longlivetheking wrote:
(since that 173 LSAT average for admits last year only resulted in a 171 for actual matriculants)
did not understand this. can someone elaborate
Basically, the average LSAT of everyone they admitted was 173. The average LSAT of the people who actually attended was 171. So basically a bunch of people with better lsats were admitted but went elsewhere.
i thought there was a natural skew towards more highly qualified applicants on LSN.
This may be true, but the point is that we observed a gap between the LSN admit LSAT median and the C/o 2015 actual median. This is significant because the LSN numbers this year are lower than last year, suggesting that the C/o 2016 actual median may also drop.

EDIT: Also, to respond more directly to your comment about the applicants on LSN: You are right that LSN applicants are generally better than the average applicant since they account for 20% of total admits while only representing 10% of the pool. This does not, however, suggest that the ADMITS on LSN will have any better numbers than the total admit pool, just that LSN represents a greater proportion of them.
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