Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017) Forum

[CHyde]

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[R. Jeeves]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... c7990ccdb8

Did you guys see your earlier conversation about Tiffany Trump ITT made WaPo? lol


(p. 86 of the thread)

"an online forum where participants obsessively dissect every possible detail of admission to the best law schools"

jfc

[ood's_brother]

It says she wants Yale. She didn't even get Cum Laude, soooo maybe this is good for h/s grads. Gotta keep or prestige, along with our Internet points, safe.

[Rigo]

If she's gets Yale it will lose its luster.

[ood's_brother]

If she's gets Yale it will lose its luster.

If it's true she has a <3.5 yup. Would this stuff show up on some report? Like Caucasian admitted with 3.3 and 165.

[Rigo]

Having a famous parent also shouldn't be a good soft.

[Rigo]

If she's gets Yale it will lose its luster.

If it's true she has a <3.5 yup. Would this stuff show up on some report? Like Caucasian admitted with 3.3 and 165.

I think they publish the minimums and maximums on their class profile page but you don't see the lowest pairing.
So you will see a 3.5 but that person might be URM with a 180 for all we know.

I mean if she killed the LSAT and has done amazing stuff, then admit her. I just hate the idea of celebrity children getting a big bump just because they were born into privilege or the school wants publicity.

[ashrice13]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... c7990ccdb8

Did you guys see your earlier conversation about Tiffany Trump ITT made WaPo? lol


(p. 86 of the thread)

"an online forum where participants obsessively dissect every possible detail of admission to the best law schools"

OUR NEUROSES ARE FAMOUS.

This is amazing.

I'm not even mad. I'm just impressed.

[Rigo]

Hi Tiff. I'm sure we'll be great friends.

[Alexandros]

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[Rigo]

Hi Tiff. I'm sure we'll be great friends.

+1
Here if you need to rant about relatives or anything.

[PrezRand]

I don't think her father being president is actually a "soft" or not a strong enough soft for her to get admitted anywhere. George P. Bush got rejected from Columbia, Nyu, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Texas

[batlaw]

If she's gets Yale it will lose its luster.

If it's true she has a <3.5 yup. Would this stuff show up on some report? Like Caucasian admitted with 3.3 and 165.

I think they publish the minimums and maximums on their class profile page but you don't see the lowest pairing.
So you will see a 3.5 but that person might be URM with a 180 for all we know.

I mean if she killed the LSAT and has done amazing stuff, then admit her. I just hate the idea of celebrity children getting a big bump just because they were born into privilege or the school wants publicity.

I agree that privilege/celebrity status alone should not warrant a "soft" bump. However, I think that it is perfectly reasonable that the experience could shape the outlook of a candidate and provide a diverse viewpoint that would benefit the law class and her legal thinking. I could totally see someone like TT having the self-reflection and life experiences needed to be an immense contributor to classroom discussions. I think her life experience is definitely rare. If she is able to channel that experience in an authentic manner it is extremely valuable. I could also see someone like TT being an arrogant, entitled asshole. There is also a chance that someone like TT's value is not in her life experience as related to her famous side but is in her experience and skills alone. It really depends on who someone like TT is, how they view their own experience, and their willingness and desire to engage honestly. Basically, I could see being TT being a huge soft or being totally irrelevant. I think this distinction is up to her and how introspective she is. [I think the same goes for an Olympian as well. If they are an Olympian but can't find a way to communicate that insight with their peers then I'm not sure if it is that great of a soft either? However, I guess that being an Olympian still does likely indicate some other assets, such as determination, work ethic, etc. So maybe I just mean that an Olympian's "soft" bump should be much larger if they are able to connect and communicate that experience in a valuable way.] Honestly, I really think that few of us can probably even begin to fathom what being TT is like.

[Npret]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... c7990ccdb8

Did you guys see your earlier conversation about Tiffany Trump ITT made WaPo? lol


(p. 86 of the thread)

"an online forum where participants obsessively dissect every possible detail of admission to the best law schools"

OUR NEUROSES ARE FAMOUS.

Lol and some people thought Harvard ad comms dont read this thread. It's hilarious that now this whole thread is now open for public consumption. Being a cautious person I might consider checking my posts and making edits if I were involved.

[VapidP]

I don't think her father being president is actually a "soft" or not a strong enough soft for her to get admitted anywhere. George P. Bush got rejected from Columbia, Nyu, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Texas

George P Bush is not TT. President's daughter is v different from nephew of the governor of Texas/Son of Governor of Florida which is when George P would have applied.

[PrezRand]

I don't think her father being president is actually a "soft" or not a strong enough soft for her to get admitted anywhere. George P. Bush got rejected from Columbia, Nyu, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Texas

George P Bush is not TT. President's daughter is v different from nephew of the governor of Texas/Son of Governor of Florida which is when George P would have applied.

Having the Bush name is a soft. They are one of the most powerful and influential families in U.S. history. They are up there with the rockefellers, kennedys, and everyone else. It doesn't matter if you are just a nephew

[gargleblaster]

If she's gets Yale it will lose its luster.

If it's true she has a <3.5 yup. Would this stuff show up on some report? Like Caucasian admitted with 3.3 and 165.

I think they publish the minimums and maximums on their class profile page but you don't see the lowest pairing.
So you will see a 3.5 but that person might be URM with a 180 for all we know.

I mean if she killed the LSAT and has done amazing stuff, then admit her. I just hate the idea of celebrity children getting a big bump just because they were born into privilege or the school wants publicity.

I agree that privilege/celebrity status alone should not warrant a "soft" bump. However, I think that it is perfectly reasonable that the experience could shape the outlook of a candidate and provide a diverse viewpoint that would benefit the law class and her legal thinking. I could totally see someone like TT having the self-reflection and life experiences needed to be an immense contributor to classroom discussions. I think her life experience is definitely rare. If she is able to channel that experience in an authentic manner it is extremely valuable. I could also see someone like TT being an arrogant, entitled asshole. There is also a chance that someone like TT's value is not in her life experience as related to her famous side but is in her experience and skills alone. It really depends on who someone like TT is, how they view their own experience, and their willingness and desire to engage honestly. Basically, I could see being TT being a huge soft or being totally irrelevant. I think this distinction is up to her and how introspective she is. [I think the same goes for an Olympian as well. If they are an Olympian but can't find a way to communicate that insight with their peers then I'm not sure if it is that great of a soft either? However, I guess that being an Olympian still does likely indicate some other assets, such as determination, work ethic, etc. So maybe I just mean that an Olympian's "soft" bump should be much larger if they are able to connect and communicate that experience in a valuable way.] Honestly, I really think that few of us can probably even begin to fathom what being TT is like.

Y'all are thinking about this wrong.

They won't just let in TT for TT's sake, they will let TT in so that their students get access to someone who has access.

Your degree just got a lil bit more valuable if TT is in your network cause you became friends with her due to going to the same school/class.

my 2 cents

[R. Jeeves]

I don't think her father being president is actually a "soft" or not a strong enough soft for her to get admitted anywhere. George P. Bush got rejected from Columbia, Nyu, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Texas

George P Bush is not TT. President's daughter is v different from nephew of the governor of Texas/Son of Governor of Florida which is when George P would have applied.

Having the Bush name is a soft. They are one of the most powerful and influential families in U.S. history. They are up there with the rockefellers, kennedys, and everyone else. It doesn't matter if you are just a nephew

yeah bush getting dinged is surprising to me tbh. grandson of former potus too at the time of app.

[calpolisci2016]

If she's gets Yale it will lose its luster.

If it's true she has a <3.5 yup. Would this stuff show up on some report? Like Caucasian admitted with 3.3 and 165.

I think they publish the minimums and maximums on their class profile page but you don't see the lowest pairing.
So you will see a 3.5 but that person might be URM with a 180 for all we know.

I mean if she killed the LSAT and has done amazing stuff, then admit her. I just hate the idea of celebrity children getting a big bump just because they were born into privilege or the school wants publicity.

I agree that privilege/celebrity status alone should not warrant a "soft" bump. However, I think that it is perfectly reasonable that the experience could shape the outlook of a candidate and provide a diverse viewpoint that would benefit the law class and her legal thinking. I could totally see someone like TT having the self-reflection and life experiences needed to be an immense contributor to classroom discussions. I think her life experience is definitely rare. If she is able to channel that experience in an authentic manner it is extremely valuable. I could also see someone like TT being an arrogant, entitled asshole. There is also a chance that someone like TT's value is not in her life experience as related to her famous side but is in her experience and skills alone. It really depends on who someone like TT is, how they view their own experience, and their willingness and desire to engage honestly. Basically, I could see being TT being a huge soft or being totally irrelevant. I think this distinction is up to her and how introspective she is. [I think the same goes for an Olympian as well. If they are an Olympian but can't find a way to communicate that insight with their peers then I'm not sure if it is that great of a soft either? However, I guess that being an Olympian still does likely indicate some other assets, such as determination, work ethic, etc. So maybe I just mean that an Olympian's "soft" bump should be much larger if they are able to connect and communicate that experience in a valuable way.] Honestly, I really think that few of us can probably even begin to fathom what being TT is like.

You don't think TT has the best consultants (paging Spivey...) and the best LSAT tutors on retainer to make her application as competitive and shining as it can possibly be?

[calpolisci2016]

I don't think her father being president is actually a "soft" or not a strong enough soft for her to get admitted anywhere. George P. Bush got rejected from Columbia, Nyu, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Texas

George P Bush is not TT. President's daughter is v different from nephew of the governor of Texas/Son of Governor of Florida which is when George P would have applied.

Having the Bush name is a soft. They are one of the most powerful and influential families in U.S. history. They are up there with the rockefellers, kennedys, and everyone else. It doesn't matter if you are just a nephew

yeah bush getting dinged is surprising to me tbh. grandson of former potus too at the time of app.

Genuine question, but I wonder if George P. Bush qualifies as a URM as well?

[PrezRand]

I don't think her father being president is actually a "soft" or not a strong enough soft for her to get admitted anywhere. George P. Bush got rejected from Columbia, Nyu, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Texas

George P Bush is not TT. President's daughter is v different from nephew of the governor of Texas/Son of Governor of Florida which is when George P would have applied.

Having the Bush name is a soft. They are one of the most powerful and influential families in U.S. history. They are up there with the rockefellers, kennedys, and everyone else. It doesn't matter if you are just a nephew

yeah bush getting dinged is surprising to me tbh. grandson of former potus too at the time of app.

Genuine question, but I wonder if George P. Bush qualifies as a URM as well?

He's half-hispanic

[ood's_brother]

You don't think TT has the best consultants (paging Spivey...) and the best LSAT tutors on retainer to make her application as competitive and shining as it can possibly be?

She also had access to the best tutors during undergrad. According to the linked file, she wasn't on any of the merit awards during graduation.

Having access to the best doesn't make you the best. Many people pour tons of money into prep and end up at USC/LOWER T14.

Also, it looks like she has been using powerscore books.

[harmcharm]

You don't think TT has the best consultants (paging Spivey...) and the best LSAT tutors on retainer to make her application as competitive and shining as it can possibly be?

She also had access to the best tutors during undergrad. According to the linked file, she wasn't on any of the merit awards during graduation.

Having access to the best doesn't make you the best. Many people pour tons of money into prep and end up at USC/LOWER T14.

Also, it looks like she has been using powerscore books.

Plus, as much as "retake" logic is in play around here, the fact of the matter is acing the LSAT is a skill, and it's a skill that some people just don't have. There's a reason a 170+ score puts you in the 98th percentile. Of course having the best tutors/consultants would give her a bump, but unless she's paying someone to take the test for her, they could only carry her so far if it turns out she's just not equipped for LSAT-thinking.

[calpolisci2016]

You don't think TT has the best consultants (paging Spivey...) and the best LSAT tutors on retainer to make her application as competitive and shining as it can possibly be?

She also had access to the best tutors during undergrad. According to the linked file, she wasn't on any of the merit awards during graduation.

Having access to the best doesn't make you the best. Many people pour tons of money into prep and end up at USC/LOWER T14.

Also, it looks like she has been using powerscore books.

Sure, the lsat is one aspect and I probably agree that people have a predisposed ceiling regarding their lsat score. I'm not trying to make the argument that tutors can help her score high, I'm only saying tutors can help her score as high as she can. Honestly the lsat tutor wasn't the point of my post.

I was addressing the question of whether TT could put together a "genuine" application that demonstrated her experiences and family background in a positive light. Aside from the doubts about her intelligence/lsat abilities, her personality as a brat is another major potential disqualifier for her. Consultants can help her with that problem.

[dyebri]

You don't think TT has the best consultants (paging Spivey...) and the best LSAT tutors on retainer to make her application as competitive and shining as it can possibly be?

She also had access to the best tutors during undergrad. According to the linked file, she wasn't on any of the merit awards during graduation.

Having access to the best doesn't make you the best. Many people pour tons of money into prep and end up at USC/LOWER T14.

Also, it looks like she has been using powerscore books.

Sure, the lsat is one aspect and I probably agree that people have a predisposed ceiling regarding their lsat score. I'm not trying to make the argument that tutors can help her score high, I'm only saying tutors can help her score as high as she can. Honestly the lsat tutor wasn't the point of my post.

I was addressing the question of whether TT could put together a "genuine" application that demonstrated her experiences and family background in a positive light. Aside from the doubts about her intelligence/lsat abilities, her personality as a brat is another major potential disqualifier for her. Consultants can help her with that problem.

lets please just get back to speculating when the next wave of js2 are coming out