Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017) Forum

[ColombiaConfused]

I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?

As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.

LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

Lol she would have gotten a combo JS1/JS2 in mid-November.

I don't think TT has been accepted yet honestly

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2017/01 ... /2355.html don't know how reliable though!

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[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?

As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.

LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

Lol she would have gotten a combo JS1/JS2 in mid-November.

I don't think TT has been accepted yet honestly

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2017/01 ... /2355.html don't know how reliable though!

But that's the same report I always see, post that tour she also went to Columbia

[ColombiaConfused]

I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?

As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.

LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

Lol she would have gotten a combo JS1/JS2 in mid-November.

I don't think TT has been accepted yet honestly

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2017/01 ... /2355.html don't know how reliable though!

But that's the same report I always see, post that tour she also went to Columbia

True, though this was the only post I found that said an admissions source confirmed her acceptance. No idea if that's accurate or if she committed anywhere (probs not yet).

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I mean Harvard might be less of a "black box" percentage wise but there's got to be some room in that massive class for a few interesting people with slightly lower numbers to slip in.

i hope so. but there rly don't seem to be anyone with <25% and non-urm this cycle. i can't say if it means they'll send JS1s to them in march and later or if at all.
anyone know how many JS1s for non-urm and both < 25% in previous cycles?

edit: possible that there are NONE non-urm people per class that have both <25%

edit-2:
only 1 person fits the above criteria, but he is WL at Yale, so probably URM?
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/deepap

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<25%. Non-URM. In at H and Y.

FAKE NEWS

I remember you mentioning that you have a unique but subtle soft (requires a close examination of the app to be detected). Now I am really curious what it is. That is awesome though, congratulations.

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<25%. Non-URM. In at H and Y.

FAKE NEWS

I remember you mentioning that you have a unique but subtle soft (requires a close examination of the app to be detected). Now I am really curious what it is. That is awesome though, congratulations.

Thanks. I don't remember saying that at all.

People need to stop saying that no one below ____ gets in because they do. That's why they have percentiles. It means that there's definitely people who get in with below 25 or 50. Rhetoric like this is so common on these forums and it discourages qualified candidates from applying.

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Well, the assumption is that most people below the 25th percentile LSAT/GPA are either: a) URM; b) unique (e.g. a Fulbright scholar); c) legacy admit / influential parents (Malia Obama, Tiffany Trump, less notable legacies); d) someone who has above average softs + above 75th percentile GPA/LSAT.

If you are none of the above, you can still get in of course, but it is very unlikely. Look at the data on LSN.

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<25%. Non-URM. In at H and Y.

FAKE NEWS

I remember you mentioning that you have a unique but subtle soft (requires a close examination of the app to be detected). Now I am really curious what it is. That is awesome though, congratulations.

Thanks. I don't remember saying that at all.

People need to stop saying that no one below ____ gets in because they do. That's why they have percentiles. It means that there's definitely people who get in with below 25 or 50. Rhetoric like this is so common on these forums and it discourages qualified candidates from applying.

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<25%. Non-URM. In at H and Y.

FAKE NEWS

I remember you mentioning that you have a unique but subtle soft (requires a close examination of the app to be detected). Now I am really curious what it is. That is awesome though, congratulations.

Thanks. I don't remember saying that at all.

People need to stop saying that no one below ____ gets in because they do. That's why they have percentiles. It means that there's definitely people who get in with below 25 or 50. Rhetoric like this is so common on these forums and it discourages qualified candidates from applying.

FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS

Well, the assumption is that most people below the 25th percentile LSAT/GPA are either: a) URM; b) unique (e.g. a Fulbright scholar); c) legacy admit / influential parents (Malia Obama, Tiffany Trump, less notable legacies); d) someone who has above average softs + above 75th percentile GPA/LSAT.

If you are none of the above, you can still get in of course, but it is very unlikely. Look at the data on LSN.

this.

LSN data clearly shows almost no applicant with both <25 got in this year or last year.

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<25%. Non-URM. In at H and Y.

FAKE NEWS

I remember you mentioning that you have a unique but subtle soft (requires a close examination of the app to be detected). Now I am really curious what it is. That is awesome though, congratulations.

Thanks. I don't remember saying that at all.

People need to stop saying that no one below ____ gets in because they do. That's why they have percentiles. It means that there's definitely people who get in with below 25 or 50. Rhetoric like this is so common on these forums and it discourages qualified candidates from applying.

FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS

your seem to generalize from your example. just because the process worked out for you doesn't mean what everyone is saying is false about it being numbers-driven. Also, you are not below both <25%. you are only one <25 % and one >median so not that surprising for you to be accepted.

[tartan2016]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

[ood's_brother]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Yup, I got a JS1 one too and got into schools ranked lower than Harvard. I'd reckon most people here have.

[AJ1010]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Yup, I got a JS1 one too and got into schools ranked lower than Harvard. I'd reckon most people here have.

I think this person is more so referring to the fact that he or she is surprised that they were WL'd at Michigan and received a JS1.

[ood's_brother]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Yup, I got a JS1 one too and got into schools ranked lower than Harvard. I'd reckon most people here have.

I think this person is more so referring to the fact that he or she is surprised that they were WL'd at Michigan and received a JS1.

I mean I was wl at uva. Isn't this a YP issue. Idk, op isn't asking any question other than if this has happened to others. I assume it's pretty normal.


But congratulations to OP on the Js1.

[addie1412]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Waitlisted at Michigan, Georgetown, Chicago, Berkeley and Northwestern with a JS1

[ashrice13]

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[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Got the WL at Chicago, which probably isn't that weird considering best case ill be WL at Harvard with my js1

[tartan2016]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Yup, I got a JS1 one too and got into schools ranked lower than Harvard. I'd reckon most people here have.

I think this person is more so referring to the fact that he or she is surprised that they were WL'd at Michigan and received a JS1.

Thanks for the responses. Yeah that was what I was referring to, because I thought non-acceptance at Michigan would pretty much guarantee I would not be considered anywhere ranked much above Michigan. But I guess JS1 after being wait listed at lower ranked schools isn't as abnormal as I thought.

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[twochipmunks]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Waitlisted at Michigan, Georgetown, Chicago, Berkeley and Northwestern with a JS1

OMG you're just like this current non-urm HLS student I know (rejected/wl at all T10 except HLS).

Crazy things do happen.

This actually makes some sense if you're a splitter with GPA or LSAT > 75th. HLS 75ths are higher, meaning they have less applicants to pull from in order to keep that percentile. So, for example, an elite LSAT score with a mediocre GPA would actually make you more in-demand at HLS than Michigan.

[tartan2016]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I'm late in the game but I'm a bit confused this cycle and this forum seems like a great discussion venue. I got into Duke, but WL at Michigan. Wasn't expecting anything much above Duke (esp. since I'm KJD) but then got JS1 from Harvard. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Waitlisted at Michigan, Georgetown, Chicago, Berkeley and Northwestern with a JS1

OMG you're just like this current non-urm HLS student I know (rejected/wl at all T10 except HLS).

Crazy things do happen.

This actually makes some sense if you're a splitter with GPA or LSAT > 75th. HLS 75ths are higher, meaning they have less applicants to pull from in order to keep that percentile. So, for example, an elite LSAT score with a mediocre GPA would actually make you more in-demand at HLS than Michigan.

I see. I didn't think about it that way. That is not quite my situation though. My LSAT is exactly at Harvard's 25th percentile, but I am still 0.01 below 75th for GPA.

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[Alexandros]

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