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urbanist11 · Post by **urbanist11** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:03 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:05 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:07 pm

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Dcc617 · Post by **Dcc617** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:00 pm

Generally wrote:
urbanist11 wrote:But really, what is "The South"?

Who are those 11% of people who don't considered Georgia part of The South?
??????Ohio???? Illinois??? People are dumb.

Florida is not really the south. Missouri and Kansas are awful like the south, but not really the south. Arizona is crazy as balls in a lot of the same ways as the south, but not the south. West Virginia is poor like the south, but not the south.

I'm from the south, by the way...

Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:10 pm

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Dcc617 · Post by **Dcc617** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:14 pm

Generally wrote:
Dcc617 wrote:
Generally wrote:
urbanist11 wrote:But really, what is "The South"?

Who are those 11% of people who don't considered Georgia part of The South?
??????Ohio???? Illinois??? People are dumb.
Florida is not really the south. Missouri and Kansas are awful like the south, but not really the south. Arizona is crazy as balls in a lot of the same ways as the south, but not the south. West Virginia is poor like the south, but not the south.

I'm from the south, by the way...
You're dumb, don't talk to me.

It's not. Do you seriously consider Miami to be a southern city? Florida doesn't have the same history as like Alabama or Georgia. Most people who live there now are Northerners and Hispanic folks. They are who have shaped Florida. Maybe the very top could be the south, but not the rest of it.

doublehoohopeful · Post by **doublehoohopeful** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:20 pm

Dcc617 wrote:
Generally wrote: You're dumb, don't talk to me.
It's not. Do you seriously consider Miami to be a southern city? Florida doesn't have the same history as like Alabama or Georgia. Most people who live there now are Northerners and Hispanic folks. They are who have shaped Florida. Maybe the very top could be the south, but not the rest of it.

Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:20 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:22 pm

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urbanist11 · Post by **urbanist11** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:27 pm

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lymenheimer · Post by **lymenheimer** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:33 pm

Generally wrote:
Dcc617 wrote:
It's not. Do you seriously consider Miami to be a southern city? Florida doesn't have the same history as like Alabama or Georgia. Most people who live there now are Northerners and Hispanic folks. They are who have shaped Florida. Maybe the very top could be the south, but not the rest of it.

Edit: I am a Floridian, don't screw with me on this!!!!!!!!!!

Probably a Northerner trying to get around admitting that the South is better than the North. If they can claim that Florida is more Northern, then they won't feel so bad about retiring and moving to another "Northern" state rather than saying "Yea I'm retiring to the South". Let's just face it though, the South can't be beat for more reasons than one.

barley · Post by **barley** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:51 pm

Gee, I love when my innocent questions spark heated debates.

Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:56 pm

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basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:58 pm

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Hildegard15 · Post by **Hildegard15** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:12 pm

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basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:13 pm

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Dcc617 · Post by **Dcc617** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:25 pm

Generally wrote:
Dcc617 wrote:
It's not. Do you seriously consider Miami to be a southern city? Florida doesn't have the same history as like Alabama or Georgia. Most people who live there now are Northerners and Hispanic folks. They are who have shaped Florida. Maybe the very top could be the south, but not the rest of it.
The area you are talking about is the red. [img]overly%20simplistic[/img]

Jacksonville, Tallahassee, Tampa, Gainesville, and Orlando even, are Southern cities. Heaps of Southern towns throughout the state. Florida was a founding member of the confederacy. Some of the biggest civil rights events in the South were in Florida. Florida is the birthplace of Southern Rock. Until recently the Confederate flag flew from the Statehouse. I could go on and on about the culture, food, even weather being Southern.

Edit: I am a Floridian, don't screw with me on this!!!!!!!!!!

I'm From Virginia, which is another state that you can argue about being Southern or not, ie, Northern Virginia.

Florida was a Spanish colony for most of its existence before the Civil War. It does not share the history of a large, aristocratic plantation class that the rest of the South holds. It was a founding member of the a Confederacy, yes, but (1) that's not something to be proud of, and (2) it had a TINY population at that time (less than 150000). I don't think that forever relegates it to The South.

It does have a history of slavery and all of the negatives that come with that, but that's not a sufficient condition to call it Southern. I personally think that it is much more dissimilar to Louisiana, Georgia, Mississippi, etc, than similar.

Of the major metropolitan areas you listed, I would say only Jacksonville and Tallahassee are unambiguously Southern. I have family in Tampa. While the suburbs around it can be pretty Southern (racism and meth), the actual city is a huge multicultural area where I would say Cuban and other Hispanic groups have a much more pronounced influence than the Confederacy.

Just my opinion, as someone from the South who has spent a lot of time in Florida.

kjm1992 · Post by **kjm1992** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:34 pm

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Dcc617 · Post by **Dcc617** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:36 pm

kjm1992 wrote:As another Florida resident, I would argue that the majority of Northern Florida and the Panhandle area is definitely Southern, whereas Central Florida is less so, and South Florida is not Southern at all. So it really depends on what part of Florida you have the most experience with/are thinking of when you are personally deciding if Florida is Southern or not.

I can agree with this. Truce, Generally?

Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:48 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:50 pm

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benwyatt · Post by **benwyatt** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:45 am

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Dcc617 · Post by **Dcc617** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:49 am

benwyatt wrote:Officially done with my Duke application!
I've uploaded everything but I want to give it a once-over when it's not 1 AM before I click submit and pay the LSAC fee.

I don't think that you can submit until 1 September. That's what it told me anyway...

benwyatt · Post by **benwyatt** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:59 am

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:02 am

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