michigan 2010 applicants Forum

[los blancos]

IN!! via admitted students site. Im so glad my alma matter loves me back and I don't have to go get my block M tattoo removed haha.

GO BLUE!!!!!!

Congrats, Jules!

[bayareadunks]

^ ditto regarding preferences for certain undergrads

and congrats!

[starstruck393]

Anyone after the 26th hear anything about schollys? I'm not giving up hope yet. Also, everyone keeps saying there seems to be a 30k line, 45k line, etc what seem to be the stat cut offs?

i don't really know what you mean by 30k line, 45k line, etc. for stat cut offs, because i've been away for about 100 pages, but i can tell you there's no strict gpa cutoff. my gpa is trash, and i got a 54k.

It's not a purely GPA line, or a purely LSAT line. It's likely an index line. I don't remember if Michigan posts their index formula (I don't think they do), but I think the LSP index for Michigan would do. I don't have the ambition, but if someone took the time to make a spreadsheet of Michigan acceptances from LSN, noting LSAT, GPA, LSP index and scholarship amount (omitting those with Darrows), I'd greatly suspect that the data would break down into neat little groups where those in one index range would get one amount, those in another another amount, etc...

What about timing? As in, early applicants vs those who apply in the middle or later. What kind of effect is there?

It shouldn't affect early or middle-ish applicants, but for later applicants, it's very possible that money would start to get thin, which could hurt $$ chances

[starstruck393]

how soon after being accepted does scholarship information (if any) come?

Typically a week or two. I wouldn't worry, with your stats, you should get a pretty decent amount!

[los blancos]

It shouldn't affect early or middle-ish applicants, but for later applicants, it's very possible that money would start to get thin, which could hurt $$ chances

I'm guessing 'later' means after 1/1, right?

[starstruck393]

It shouldn't affect early or middle-ish applicants, but for later applicants, it's very possible that money would start to get thin, which could hurt $$ chances

I'm guessing 'later' means after 1/1, right?

Yea(?). I was vague because I'm not totally sure, but that sounds about right. Last year, and partially because of overfilling, there were hardly any acceptances for applicants later than the first or second week of January. Only those with really good numbers got in, and many who would have been near locks earlier in the cycle got waitlisted...

[los blancos]

It shouldn't affect early or middle-ish applicants, but for later applicants, it's very possible that money would start to get thin, which could hurt $$ chances

I'm guessing 'later' means after 1/1, right?

Yea(?). I was vague because I'm not totally sure, but that sounds about right. Last year, and partially because of overfilling, there were hardly any acceptances for applicants later than the first or second week of January. Only those with really good numbers got in, and many who would have been near locks earlier in the cycle got waitlisted...

that's exactly what's going to end up happening to me.

[calicocat]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

[starstruck393]

It shouldn't affect early or middle-ish applicants, but for later applicants, it's very possible that money would start to get thin, which could hurt $$ chances

I'm guessing 'later' means after 1/1, right?

Yea(?). I was vague because I'm not totally sure, but that sounds about right. Last year, and partially because of overfilling, there were hardly any acceptances for applicants later than the first or second week of January. Only those with really good numbers got in, and many who would have been near locks earlier in the cycle got waitlisted...

that's exactly what's going to end up happening to me.

Well, hopefully with precautions taken to avoid the gross over-enrollment of last year, they'll string out the application process more, which gives later applications a better chance. I do understand how this frustrates those still waiting, though...

[Jericwithers]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

+1. You are becomming the only other acceptance I want, and expect, but can't have.

[oneforship]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

+1. You are becomming the only other acceptance I want, and expect, but can't have.

I assume you are talking about Mich, and not about Oli...

[calicocat]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

+1. You are becomming the only other acceptance I want, and expect, but can't have.

I assume you are talking about Mich, and not about Oli...

lol wrong thread oneforship

[Jericwithers]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

+1. You are becomming the only other acceptance I want, and expect, but can't have.

I assume you are talking about Mich, and not about Oli...

Sure.

[jackassjim]

It's not a purely GPA line, or a purely LSAT line. It's likely an index line. I don't remember if Michigan posts their index formula (I don't think they do), but I think the LSP index for Michigan would do. I don't have the ambition, but if someone took the time to make a spreadsheet of Michigan acceptances from LSN, noting LSAT, GPA, LSP index and scholarship amount (omitting those with Darrows), I'd greatly suspect that the data would break down into neat little groups where those in one index range would get one amount, those in another another amount, etc. From there you could roughly determine where the cutoffs are for the scholarships...

I graphed that data some time ago:
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[starstruck393]

It's not a purely GPA line, or a purely LSAT line. It's likely an index line. I don't remember if Michigan posts their index formula (I don't think they do), but I think the LSP index for Michigan would do. I don't have the ambition, but if someone took the time to make a spreadsheet of Michigan acceptances from LSN, noting LSAT, GPA, LSP index and scholarship amount (omitting those with Darrows), I'd greatly suspect that the data would break down into neat little groups where those in one index range would get one amount, those in another another amount, etc. From there you could roughly determine where the cutoffs are for the scholarships...

I graphed that data some time ago:
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Nice

[Tangerine Gleam]

Woah.

[starstruck393]

Woah.

Yeah, that's what I thought when I saw it...

[jackassjim]

Woah.

Hehe!

Yeah, it's hard to (quickly and effortlessly) draw a graph with 3 dimensions without it looking a bit overwhelming like that. I'm sure I could have made it look cooler (maybe a 2d with bigger circles for bigger scholarships), but I just didn't bother playing with the default settings of the graphing software.

I still think this is pretty informative. It seems that if there are really graduated cut-off points with varying amounts of money, they really are LSAT cut-offs, not GPA ones. If they were really working with an index, then we would see gradually increasing clusters going from the lower-left to the upper-right, kind of like a diagonal spine separating the graph in two. Instead, we see the height of the points going up pretty uniformly across the board, from front to back. This seems to indicate that, when you reach about 3.5 in GPA, it's pretty much all LSAT.

Keep in mind that this is self-reported data from 2009, from LSN.

[booboo]

Cool graph.

[jayn3]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

Dear Oli,

Stop reading my mind.

Yours,

jayn3

[calicocat]

Dear Umich,

I really really love you and I want to be friends. We could have such a great 3 years together. Think about it.

<3

Oli

Dear Oli,

Stop reading my mind.

Yours,

jayn3

lol

[ShibaDan]

Anyone after the 26th hear anything about schollys? I'm not giving up hope yet. Also, everyone keeps saying there seems to be a 30k line, 45k line, etc what seem to be the stat cut offs?

The 26th of January? I'd say it's probably a bit early for anyone who was admitted this recently to hear anything regarding scholarships. Michigan sends merit award notifications some time after the initial acceptance package. As far as stat cut-offs for various scholarship amounts, I'm not entirely sure about those numbers, perhaps someone else has taken the time to compile this info? You might also check out LSN, I think some have posted up the amounts of their scholarship awards there.

I'm sorry, I should have clarified. I was admitted on January 12th, but haven't heard anything. As for the 26th, people were discussing getting schollys ITT up until that date and then nothing after that. I was just wondering if they were done giving out money for now. I'm hoping my offer is sitting in a japanese post office somewhere.

Wow. Thanks for that graph. Once I figure out how to better read it I will be even more appreciative. Thanks for your help though! You rock my socks off.

[ShibaDan]

Woah.

Hehe!

Yeah, it's hard to (quickly and effortlessly) draw a graph with 3 dimensions without it looking a bit overwhelming like that. I'm sure I could have made it look cooler (maybe a 2d with bigger circles for bigger scholarships), but I just didn't bother playing with the default settings of the graphing software.

I still think this is pretty informative. It seems that if there are really graduated cut-off points with varying amounts of money, they really are LSAT cut-offs, not GPA ones. If they were really working with an index, then we would see gradually increasing clusters going from the lower-left to the upper-right, kind of like a diagonal spine separating the graph in two. Instead, we see the height of the points going up pretty uniformly across the board, from front to back. This seems to indicate that, when you reach about 3.5 in GPA, it's pretty much all LSAT.

Keep in mind that this is self-reported data from 2009, from LSN.

Just checking, but I'm guessing the red are URMs?

[jackassjim]

Just checking, but I'm guessing the red are URMs?

No they're not. The red dots simply have lower LSAT scores.

[junelsat]

How do I check the admitted students website? My status says Decision, so I'd like to know. Do both acceptances and rejections go out via snail mail?