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vendetta73 · Post by **vendetta73** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:53 pm

xlawschoolhopefulx wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:Also, URM is a legally defined category when it comes to law school admissions. Law schools *have* to admit some African Americans, for example. If there is only one such applicant to NYU this year, NYU has to admit them, irrespective of their scores (more or less). If there is one African-born and raised candidate, NYU has no obligation to admit them whatsoever. The whole point of the URM clause is to help out US populations that have historically been underrepresented, so that they are not underrepresented in the future.
Hm. Wouldn't this kind of policy towards African Americans (ie making one an auto-admit) violate the Supreme Court's decision in Grutter? The court said it can favor URMs, but only if race is not the only factor in admission. If at least one African American is automatically admitted, that seems to presume that race was the only factor in their admission. But, I could be wrong.

No, you're right. It's definitely NOT the case that law schools *have* to admit some African Americans; in fact, it's been illegal to require any such thing since Bakke in 1987; Grutter (2003) simply reaffirmed that decision and defined diversity in admissions as the kind of compelling state interest that would allow race to be used as a "plus factor" in admissions as long as it was one of several factors used to evaluate individual candidates (in Gratz, heard at the same time, the court held that even a system that quantified that "plus factor" as points, as Michigan did for undergraduate admissions, amounted to a de facto quota and was unconstitutional under Bakke). Also, considering race in admissions isn't really designed to "help out" URM candidates; Grutter clarified that the "compelling interest" at stake here was the educational value of diversity for ALL students, not the redressing of historical wrongs for select groups.

KevinP · Post by **KevinP** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:03 pm

The diversity mandate is an ABA one, not a legal one IIRC.

legalabogada · Post by **legalabogada** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:06 pm

avd90 · Post by **avd90** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:19 pm

KevinP wrote:The diversity mandate is an ABA one, not a legal one IIRC.

This is true, IIRC. The ABA establishes who is a URM, and asserts that it wants the proportions of groups (AA, MA, PR, NA etc) practicing law to match those of the general population. This is why Cuban Americans are my URM--their relative status and wealth in the American Hispanic community excludes this from this classification.

mikeylikesit · Post by **mikeylikesit** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:16 pm

Just sent off a "Why NYU". Crossing all fingers, toes, etc.

avd90 · Post by **avd90** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:31 pm

finalizing my LOCI... FUCK IT.

But guys, is Kleinrock the dean of admissions?

YesNoMaybe · Post by **YesNoMaybe** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:45 pm

Edit.

JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:03 am

avd90 wrote:finalizing my LOCI... FUCK IT.

But guys, is Kleinrock the dean of admissions?

hopefully. That's who I address things to

Blumpbeef · Post by **Blumpbeef** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:16 am

Are you guys LOCI'ing without hearing anything back?

JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:21 am

Blumpbeef wrote:Are you guys LOCI'ing without hearing anything back?

I got a "thanks for your interest in NYU Law, you're message has been added to your file" basic response

Blumpbeef · Post by **Blumpbeef** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:24 am

I mean, were you held/WLd before you sent your LOCI? I applied 6 weeks ago, I'm not sure if it's appropriate to send anything. I didn't write a Why essay though so I think maybe I should

JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:30 am

Blumpbeef wrote:I mean, were you held/WLd before you sent your LOCI? I applied 6 weeks ago, I'm not sure if it's appropriate to send anything. I didn't write a Why essay though so I think maybe I should

oh, right. I totally missed that. Yeah, I've sent a Why NYU and an updated resume

avd90 · Post by **avd90** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:17 am

hey guys, so is it a good idea to mention I've been accepted to michigan in a LOCI?

Killingly · Post by **Killingly** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:20 pm

avd90 wrote:hey guys, so is it a good idea to mention I've been accepted to michigan in a LOCI?

I wouldn't.

PopTorts13 · Post by **PopTorts13** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:58 pm

Killingly wrote:
avd90 wrote:hey guys, so is it a good idea to mention I've been accepted to michigan in a LOCI?
I wouldn't.

+1

avd90 · Post by **avd90** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:35 pm

PopTorts13 wrote:
Killingly wrote:
avd90 wrote:hey guys, so is it a good idea to mention I've been accepted to michigan in a LOCI?
I wouldn't.
+1

good. I had my mom proof read my shit (nerd) before I sent it out, and she said maybe I should say... "even though I got into michigan, I'm holding out for NYU..." I didn't really agree/feel like i should.. but I'm at the point in my life where I can't breathe without checking with tls

gravityrides0 · Post by **gravityrides0** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:14 pm

avd90 wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:
Killingly wrote:
avd90 wrote:hey guys, so is it a good idea to mention I've been accepted to michigan in a LOCI?
I wouldn't.
+1

good. I had my mom proof read my shit (nerd) before I sent it out, and she said maybe I should say... "even though I got into michigan, I'm holding out for NYU..." I didn't really agree/feel like i should.. but I'm at the point in my life where I can't breathe without checking with tls

to me it seems immature. almost seems like... trying to make a boy/girl jealous by flirting with their hot friend in front of them... when you have no idea if that boy/girl even likes you at all!! bad example, but you get my point... NYU shouldn't/ probably doesn't care where else you got in. I think people more often use other schools for scholarship leverage once they get admitted (at that point, people know for sure that the school at least wants/approves of them!)... not for boosting admissions chances.. just be sincere and make it about NYU and only NYU.

avd90 · Post by **avd90** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:17 pm

gravityrides0 wrote:
avd90 wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:
Killingly wrote: I wouldn't.
+1

good. I had my mom proof read my shit (nerd) before I sent it out, and she said maybe I should say... "even though I got into michigan, I'm holding out for NYU..." I didn't really agree/feel like i should.. but I'm at the point in my life where I can't breathe without checking with tls
to me it seems immature. almost seems like... trying to make a boy/girl jealous by flirting with their hot friend in front of them... when you have no idea if that boy/girl even likes you at all!! bad example, but you get my point... NYU shouldn't/ probably doesn't care where else you got in. I think people more often use other schools for scholarship leverage once they get admitted (at that point, people know for sure that the school at least wants/approves of them!)... not for boosting admissions chances.. just be sincere and make it about NYU and only NYU.

thank you for basically spelling out exactly what I felt. love tls

gravityrides0 · Post by **gravityrides0** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:17 pm

avd90 wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:
Killingly wrote:
avd90 wrote:hey guys, so is it a good idea to mention I've been accepted to michigan in a LOCI?
I wouldn't.
+1

good. I had my mom proof read my shit (nerd) before I sent it out, and she said maybe I should say... "even though I got into michigan, I'm holding out for NYU..." I didn't really agree/feel like i should.. but I'm at the point in my life where I can't breathe without checking with tls

oh... BUT, you could convey the same idea more tactfully by saying that if admitted, you would pull your applications from other schools and choose to attend NYU? (without mentioning a specific school)

cogitoergosum · Post by **cogitoergosum** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:37 am

I went under review 11/11 and haven't heard anything since. Anyone else waiting as long or longer?

Campagnolo · Post by **Campagnolo** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:06 am

11/11 here.

cogitoergosum · Post by **cogitoergosum** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:07 am

stupid question - what email are you guys sending LOCI's to?

avd90 · Post by **avd90** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:54 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:stupid question - what email are you guys sending LOCI's to?

not stupid, I had some issues with it. I sent mine to Candace Wade <WadeC@exchange.law.nyu.edu> (because that was who sent my grade request) and law.moreinfo@nyu.edu

thisguy456 · Post by **thisguy456** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:14 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:I went under review 11/11 and haven't heard anything since. Anyone else waiting as long or longer?

10/21. Waitlist here I come.

JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:34 pm

cogitoergosum wrote:stupid question - what email are you guys sending LOCI's to?

law.moreinfo

also, I'm a mid-November UR

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