Columbia 2010 Forum

[4910]

i think its about time to start giving up hope, rejections and waitlists should start being sent soon now.

[Core]

4.364, and another part of me dies everyday there is no big envolope in my mailbox

Maybe tomorrow?

I'm at about the same index and am just waiting and waiting... And people from my school have already heard. Sigh.

Yep. I'm at 4.318, which happens to be the exact median according to LSP. So it gives me a 50/50 shot.

That would drive me pretty crazy.
I'm at 4.250, but I'm hoping my URM status pushes me onto the acceptance pile here lol.

[tomhobbes]

I think the money then goes to small scholarships. LSN reports no Hamiltons or Butlers offered after mid-February in any year.

Going through last year on LSN:

Butlers:
1/22 (3)
1/23
1/24 (5)
1/26 (2)
1/28 (3)
2/12
2/18
Unknown date

to both you and tomhobbes-- when you guys did your counting, did you include all 60000+ as "butlers?" because 75000 is a common aid total for cls. see:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/ParanoidJet
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rabbit9198

so for those of us still waiting, the past trend does not support more butlers going out. but, new year, new scholly trend? otherwise, what is going on with all these indexes that should be auto-admit?

I counted any $75k as a Butler. Some of those might not be Butlers, then. Damn you, Columbia, complicating things.

Also, mistermister may have only be a 4.426, but he was a Chemistry/Physics double major (!) who probably had some ridiculously strong focus on patent law.

I also counted everything at $75k as a Butler. I didn't know that they would give out need-based aid in the exact same amount as their second-best scholarship. Damn you, Columbia! It would be impossibly time-consuming to go through and check each of those to see if it's really a Butler, and probably misleading anyway, since many people don't identify whether their aid is need-based or merit-based.

[BenJ]

I think the money then goes to small scholarships. LSN reports no Hamiltons or Butlers offered after mid-February in any year.

Going through last year on LSN:

Butlers:
1/22 (3)
1/23
1/24 (5)
1/26 (2)
1/28 (3)
2/12
2/18
Unknown date

to both you and tomhobbes-- when you guys did your counting, did you include all 60000+ as "butlers?" because 75000 is a common aid total for cls. see:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/ParanoidJet
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/rabbit9198

so for those of us still waiting, the past trend does not support more butlers going out. but, new year, new scholly trend? otherwise, what is going on with all these indexes that should be auto-admit?

I counted any $75k as a Butler. Some of those might not be Butlers, then. Damn you, Columbia, complicating things.

Also, mistermister may have only be a 4.426, but he was a Chemistry/Physics double major (!) who probably had some ridiculously strong focus on patent law.

I also counted everything at $75k as a Butler. I didn't know that they would give out need-based aid in the exact same amount as their second-best scholarship. Damn you, Columbia! It would be impossibly time-consuming to go through and check each of those to see if it's really a Butler, and probably misleading anyway, since many people don't identify whether their aid is need-based or merit-based.

Columbia has a reputation for distributing need-based aid on a merit basis as well, though. That is, if two people have equal need, but one has a 180 LSAT and the other has a 172 LSAT, the 180 LSAT will get a lot more need-based aid.

Still, it's an annoying complication. *sigh*

[Drew2010]

When are they going to start sending out rejections?

[blue5385]

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[Kronk]

i think its about time to start giving up hope, rejections and waitlists should start being sent soon now.

I don't know about that....the latest acceptance from last year's cycle on LSN came on 4/17. If I were an auto-admit like some people on this thread who haven't heard back yet, I wouldn't be giving up hope just yet.

We have a chain of command, going from Bai's 4.7 index to my 4.5 index. I don't worry until my commanding officers get bad news.

[maudlinstreet]

i think its about time to start giving up hope, rejections and waitlists should start being sent soon now.

I don't know about that....the latest acceptance from last year's cycle on LSN came on 4/17. If I were an auto-admit like some people on this thread who haven't heard back yet, I wouldn't be giving up hope just yet.

yeah, people are way overpanicking.

[Kiersten1985]

i think its about time to start giving up hope, rejections and waitlists should start being sent soon now.

I don't know about that....the latest acceptance from last year's cycle on LSN came on 4/17. If I were an auto-admit like some people on this thread who haven't heard back yet, I wouldn't be giving up hope just yet.

yeah, people are way overpanicking.

whereas I'm just resigned to my fate.

[of Benito Cereno]

Columbia has a reputation for distributing need-based aid on a merit basis as well, though. That is, if two people have equal need, but one has a 180 LSAT and the other has a 172 LSAT, the 180 LSAT will get a lot more need-based aid.

Still, it's an annoying complication. *sigh*

Well I'm hoping for some totally non-need based merit aid under the guise of 'need-based aid'.

[blue5385]

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[BenJ]

Columbia has a reputation for distributing need-based aid on a merit basis as well, though. That is, if two people have equal need, but one has a 180 LSAT and the other has a 172 LSAT, the 180 LSAT will get a lot more need-based aid.

Still, it's an annoying complication. *sigh*

Well I'm hoping for some totally non-need based merit aid under the guise of 'need-based aid'.

I'm with you. First, though, I need an admit. Please, Columbia?

[CoaltoNewCastle]

I'm not worried at all about getting in. I'm just really, really hoping I get a straggling Butler.

[jimmyd11011]

efff... I've been putting off sending my updated (worse) transcript to lsac for nyu hoping to hear from columbia first but i don't know how much longer I can delay it

[GeePee]

efff... I've been putting off sending my updated (worse) transcript to lsac for nyu hoping to hear from columbia first but i don't know how much longer I can delay it

Just send it directly to Columbia; the other schools will never know the difference.

[gogowisco]

Where do the index numbers come from?

[somewhatwayward]

Columbia has a reputation for distributing need-based aid on a merit basis as well, though. That is, if two people have equal need, but one has a 180 LSAT and the other has a 172 LSAT, the 180 LSAT will get a lot more need-based aid.

Still, it's an annoying complication. *sigh*

Well I'm hoping for some totally non-need based merit aid under the guise of 'need-based aid'.

that's what i was really hoping to do, too, but my parents have made it clear to me that they will not submit all that stuff for the FAFSA so short of a butler or hamilton, i'm out of luck

[jimmyd11011]

efff... I've been putting off sending my updated (worse) transcript to lsac for nyu hoping to hear from columbia first but i don't know how much longer I can delay it

Just send it directly to Columbia; the other schools will never know the difference.

You mean directly to NYU (They're the ones who asked for it, not Columbia)? I would, except NYU specifically said in the email to send the transcript to LSAC and not directly to them. I'm apprehensive of sending them to LSAC because I don't want schools that haven't notified me (i.e. Columbia) to see these worse grades and reject me, or schools that have already accepted me to give me worse scholarship offers. If only I could hear back from Columbia, I could just withdraw from NYU and avoid this mess...

[SaraT]

So I haven't been checking this thread since I was deferred to March from ED pool Has anyone sent out LOCI? When is the appropriate time to send it out? And is it even worth it? thanks for any advice you can give!

[Kronk]

So I haven't been checking this thread since I was deferred to March from ED pool Has anyone sent out LOCI? When is the appropriate time to send it out? And is it even worth it? thanks for any advice you can give!

I did it already. I'm obnoxious. Taking questions.

[BenJ]

Columbia has a reputation for distributing need-based aid on a merit basis as well, though. That is, if two people have equal need, but one has a 180 LSAT and the other has a 172 LSAT, the 180 LSAT will get a lot more need-based aid.

Still, it's an annoying complication. *sigh*

Well I'm hoping for some totally non-need based merit aid under the guise of 'need-based aid'.

that's what i was really hoping to do, too, but my parents have made it clear to me that they will not submit all that stuff for the FAFSA so short of a butler or hamilton, i'm out of luck

Eh? The FAFSA should allow you to apply as an independent. Unless you have an absurdly high income for a student (unlikely), you'll be fine.

[Core]

So I haven't been checking this thread since I was deferred to March from ED pool Has anyone sent out LOCI? When is the appropriate time to send it out? And is it even worth it? thanks for any advice you can give!

I did it already. I'm obnoxious. Taking questions.

I did the same, last week.

[BenJ]

efff... I've been putting off sending my updated (worse) transcript to lsac for nyu hoping to hear from columbia first but i don't know how much longer I can delay it

Just send it directly to Columbia; the other schools will never know the difference.

You mean directly to NYU (They're the ones who asked for it, not Columbia)? I would, except NYU specifically said in the email to send the transcript to LSAC and not directly to them. I'm apprehensive of sending them to LSAC because I don't want schools that haven't notified me (i.e. Columbia) to see these worse grades and reject me, or schools that have already accepted me to give me worse scholarship offers. If only I could hear back from Columbia, I could just withdraw from NYU and avoid this mess...

How long have you delayed already? I would say the maximum delay time before NYU starts getting ticked off is about two weeks. They've admitted some people who they requested grades from before the transcripts even went through, so it's probably worth waiting even just for an NYU acceptance, let alone CC or HYS. But, yeah, if it's been a couple of weeks, submit them. It's not worth sacrificing all shot at NYU admission for an uncertain shot at HYSCC.

[lawyering]

Columbia has a reputation for distributing need-based aid on a merit basis as well, though. That is, if two people have equal need, but one has a 180 LSAT and the other has a 172 LSAT, the 180 LSAT will get a lot more need-based aid.

Still, it's an annoying complication. *sigh*

Well I'm hoping for some totally non-need based merit aid under the guise of 'need-based aid'.

that's what i was really hoping to do, too, but my parents have made it clear to me that they will not submit all that stuff for the FAFSA so short of a butler or hamilton, i'm out of luck

Eh? The FAFSA should allow you to apply as an independent. Unless you have an absurdly high income for a student (unlikely), you'll be fine.

The FAFSA allows you to apply as an independent, but law schools don't (with some age exceptions).

[AliceB]

So I haven't been checking this thread since I was deferred to March from ED pool Has anyone sent out LOCI? When is the appropriate time to send it out? And is it even worth it? thanks for any advice you can give!

I did it already. I'm obnoxious. Taking questions.

I did the same, last week.

I sent mine last week as well, on linen paper, signed in blood.