U Chicago 2010 Forum

[Kretzy]

We're talking about the best public school system aside from Colorado, right?

Before TABOR, our public universities were damn solid. CU, CSU, Mines, and even UCD for certain programs. Fort Lewis educates more AI students than almost any other school in the US, regardless of size.

Damn Grover Norquist...I'm really glad my post-grad work experience was to dismantle TABOR.

Is TABOR a Tom Tancredo brainchild? Talk about an embarrassment to Colorado...

No, TABOR is a radical anti-government and anti-public investment policy pushed by Howard Rich, Grover Nordquist, and other right-wing radicals. It completely hamstrings public funding and infrastructure development here in CO. The think tank where I worked has great info on it: http://www.cclponline.org.

Tancredo's an embarrassment, but is far saner than some of our Reps and Senators here in the state legislature. Sen. Dave Schulteis last year said (on the Senate floor) that he hoped mothers passed AIDS on to their children, so it would "send a message" about promiscuity and bad decisions to the young women of Colorado. Sen. Scott Renfroe advocated for imprisoning gays (also on the Senate floor). Bad news bears...

/rant. Apologies for the tangent.

[Jericwithers]

No, TABOR is a radical anti-government and anti-public investment policy pushed by Howard Rich, Grover Nordquist, and other right-wing radicals. It completely hamstrings public funding and infrastructure development here in CO. The think tank where I worked has great info on it: http://www.cclponline.org.

Tancredo's an embarrassment, but is far saner than some of our Reps and Senators here in the state legislature. Sen. Dave Schulteis last year said (on the Senate floor) that he hoped mothers passed AIDS on to their children, so it would "send a message" about promiscuity and bad decisions to the young women of Colorado. Sen. Scott Renfroe advocated for imprisoning gays (also on the Senate floor). Bad news bears...

/rant. Apologies for the tangent.

Eh, in Texas over 50% of our House last year wanted to pass a bill that would prohibit banning concealed handguns in our public university's classrooms. At least your legislature isn't trying to actually KILL YOU!

EDIT: So, I had to do my research and it seems that you can bring concealed handguns onto Colorado State's campus. That sucks, seems your state legislature is trying to kill you along with being inept in other places. Tough luck.

[crackberry]

TABOR completely hamstrings public funding and infrastructure development here in CO.

Wow, sounds an awful lot like Prop. 13 in California.

[BenJ]

TABOR completely hamstrings public funding and infrastructure development here in CO.

Wow, sounds an awful lot like Prop. 13 in California.

TABOR was even worse. Basically, it said that any increase in overall revenues from taxation whatsoever (at any level, and for any reason, including more sales, higher property values, greater statewide income, etc.) had to be approved by referendum. Of course, the electorate will never vote for taxation, so it was effectively a freeze on tax revenues at all levels. This was made even worse by the fact that it recalculated the tax revenue limit annually, which meant that in any year tax revenues declined, the new, lower level was the ceiling for the next year and all subsequent years. (All revenues above the ceiling had to be returned in the form of tax credits.) It completely destroyed all levels of government in Colorado, and eventually Colorado voters realized their problem and supported a rollback of some of the most ridiculous provisions in 2005.

At least Prop 13 only applies to property taxes, and only without the property being sold.

[crackberry]

TABOR completely hamstrings public funding and infrastructure development here in CO.

Wow, sounds an awful lot like Prop. 13 in California.

TABOR was even worse. Basically, it said that any increase in overall revenues from taxation whatsoever (at any level, and for any reason, including more sales, higher property values, greater statewide income, etc.) had to be approved by referendum. Of course, the electorate will never vote for taxation, so it was effectively a freeze on tax revenues at all levels. This was made even worse by the fact that it recalculated the tax revenue limit annually, which meant that in any year tax revenues declined, the new, lower level was the ceiling for the next year and all subsequent years. (All revenues above the ceiling had to be returned in the form of tax credits.) It completely destroyed all levels of government in Colorado, and eventually Colorado voters realized their problem and supported a rollback of some of the most ridiculous provisions in 2005.

At least Prop 13 only applies to property taxes, and only without the property being sold.

Both are terrible policy decisions. That seems fair to say.

[CardinalRules]

TABOR completely hamstrings public funding and infrastructure development here in CO.

Wow, sounds an awful lot like Prop. 13 in California.

TABOR was even worse. Basically, it said that any increase in overall revenues from taxation whatsoever (at any level, and for any reason, including more sales, higher property values, greater statewide income, etc.) had to be approved by referendum. Of course, the electorate will never vote for taxation, so it was effectively a freeze on tax revenues at all levels. This was made even worse by the fact that it recalculated the tax revenue limit annually, which meant that in any year tax revenues declined, the new, lower level was the ceiling for the next year and all subsequent years. (All revenues above the ceiling had to be returned in the form of tax credits.) It completely destroyed all levels of government in Colorado, and eventually Colorado voters realized their problem and supported a rollback of some of the most ridiculous provisions in 2005.

At least Prop 13 only applies to property taxes, and only without the property being sold.

Both are terrible policy decisions. That seems fair to say.

+a lot.

[JollyGreenGiant]

sooooooooooo..

[Kronk]

sooooooooooo..

Did you hear from them yet?

[crackberry]

sooooooooooo..

Did you hear from them yet?

You too?!

[Kronk]

sooooooooooo..

Did you hear from them yet?

You too?!

Our whole thread did it!

[Kronk]

Not to mention you and puppins were making fun of Fontana so I had to run.

[crackberry]

Not to mention you and puppins were making fun of Fontana so I had to run.

True. Good point.

[ljmrc3344]

Quick query:

I submitted before Thanksgiving and went complete in early December. However, I'm getting a bit worried seeing everyone else talking about their status checkers changing to under-review (in some cases with multiple updates). My status still reads complete and the last update is from December.

Historically, many of the people with similar numbers to mine (i.e. not auto-admit, but good chances for UChicago) who submitted when I did would be getting a decision around now or the next few weeks, but according to the status checker, they haven't even looked at my application yet, while every other comparable applicant has been under-review for at least a while now. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Do sometimes they just kind of neglect to update some peoples' status checkers? Or should I maybe give the admissions office a call just to be safe?

[johnstuartmill]

No rain today, although we've had a lot more than normal this year, thanks to El Nino. It was high 60s and blindingly sunny today.

(I'm so moving back here after law school.)

Weren't there a bunch of El Nino-caused mudslides that killed some people north of LA this weekend?

Mudslides and fires mainly happen in the newly-developed suburban/exurban areas. I plan to live in the city, where Mother Nature won't take her revenge on me for bulldozing her trees to build tract houses.

[CardinalRules]

No rain today, although we've had a lot more than normal this year, thanks to El Nino. It was high 60s and blindingly sunny today.

(I'm so moving back here after law school.)

Weren't there a bunch of El Nino-caused mudslides that killed some people north of LA this weekend?

Mudslides and fires mainly happen in the newly-developed suburban/exurban areas. I plan to live in the city, where Mother Nature won't take her revenge on me for bulldozing her trees to build tract houses.

[Fancy Pants]

Quick query:

I submitted before Thanksgiving and went complete in early December. However, I'm getting a bit worried seeing everyone else talking about their status checkers changing to under-review (in some cases with multiple updates). My status still reads complete and the last update is from December.

Historically, many of the people with similar numbers to mine (i.e. not auto-admit, but good chances for UChicago) who submitted when I did would be getting a decision around now or the next few weeks, but according to the status checker, they haven't even looked at my application yet, while every other comparable applicant has been under-review for at least a while now. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Do sometimes they just kind of neglect to update some peoples' status checkers? Or should I maybe give the admissions office a call just to be safe?

They are still working through the files that went complete in December. You should be fine.

[blue5385]

Quick query:

I submitted before Thanksgiving and went complete in early December. However, I'm getting a bit worried seeing everyone else talking about their status checkers changing to under-review (in some cases with multiple updates). My status still reads complete and the last update is from December.

Historically, many of the people with similar numbers to mine (i.e. not auto-admit, but good chances for UChicago) who submitted when I did would be getting a decision around now or the next few weeks, but according to the status checker, they haven't even looked at my application yet, while every other comparable applicant has been under-review for at least a while now. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Do sometimes they just kind of neglect to update some peoples' status checkers? Or should I maybe give the admissions office a call just to be safe?

+1. I'm approaching the 2-month completion mark. If my status checker stays at 'complete' for much longer than two months, I'm going to give the admissions office a call and double-check that I'm not missing anything.

[Eazy E]

Umm...in! Missed the phone call on Friday, didn't want to call back for a a rejection and ruin my evening. So I was just shocked to see my acceptance e-mail on Saturday.

Numbers: 3.7/170 if anyone's interested

[booboo]

Umm...in! Missed the phone call on Friday, didn't want to call back for a a rejection and ruin my evening. So I was just shocked to see my acceptance e-mail on Saturday.

Numbers: 3.7/170 if anyone's interested

Congrats!

[doinmybest]

Anyone Under Review as of 2/8? What kind of wait are we looking at here? One week or One Month?

[Fancy Pants]

Anyone Under Review as of 2/8? What kind of wait are we looking at here? One week or One Month?

You went UR right after they just released a batch so I would estimate you're looking at 2-4 weeks. When was your complete date?

[doinmybest]

Anyone Under Review as of 2/8? What kind of wait are we looking at here? One week or One Month?

You went UR right after they just released a batch so I would estimate you're looking at 2-4 weeks. When was your complete date?

Complete date: 12/7

Are decisions released in acceptance batches, WL batches and rejection batches like at Georgetown? Or is it a whole bunch of decisions at once?

[Eazy E]

I take back all the feeling bad for you earlier on in you cycle.

srsly though, congrats man. Good news for good people= good monday for boo.

Haha thanks. The last few weeks have been a total turnaround for sure.

[Fancy Pants]

Anyone Under Review as of 2/8? What kind of wait are we looking at here? One week or One Month?

You went UR right after they just released a batch so I would estimate you're looking at 2-4 weeks. When was your complete date?

Complete date: 12/7

Are decisions released in acceptance batches, WL batches and rejection batches like at Georgetown? Or is it a whole bunch of decisions at once?

Seems to have been acceptance batches, WL, batches, and rejection batches. Friday there was an acceptance batch and their Twitter feed says more decisions coming out early this week so we'll see whether or not more acceptances come along with WL/dings or not.

Your first UR date might update once or twice and then there will be a date where almost everyone who went UR in the last few weeks gets updated to that date (committee meeting). So far the next day a batch of acceptances have gone out the next day with WL/dings coming later. Again, this has only happened twice I think so who knows how it will continue.

Also, twitter.com/uchicagolawapps updates pretty consistently letting you know when they are sending out decisions and where they are in the process.

[JollyGreenGiant]

Put me out of my misery. I frantically woke up 5 or 6 times this morning checking my phone for an e-mail.