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[lawschool1741]

Here's the link for y'all:
http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/2015-a ... -of-32015/

Dang, how you always so suave?

[kadyevna]

Here's the link for y'all:
http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/2015-a ... -of-32015/

yea, with such a decrease in applicants, i still didnt get in, good to know

[storpappa]

checking in late, missed some interesting polls...

[universityof]

Found out today an admissions officer is a woman wayyyy after I sent an email addressed Mr soandso

[RareExports]

Did some numbers crunching with LSN data. Took the numbers of applicants listed as 'attending' for this year and for this point in the cycle last year. Obviously, a) the sample sizes are too small to be reliable, b) the population changes every year in a way that may change LSN behavior, and c) some schools may have external reasons for their variance this cycle (different deposit dates, for example).

Here's the data as of today.

Yale: 11 attending this year, 12 at this time last year (-8.33%)
Harvard: 35 this year, 40 last year (-12.50%)
Stanford: 2 this year, 11 last year (-81.82%)
Columbia: 15 this year, 19 last year (-21.05%)
Chicago: 9 this year, 15 last year (-40.00%)
NYU: 12 this year, 13 last year (-7.69%)
Penn: 10 this year, 20 last year (-50.00%)
UVA: 19 this year, 25 last year (-24.00%)
Berkeley: 15 this year, 9 last year (66.67%)
Duke: 11 this year, 12 last year (-8.33%)
Michigan: 13 this year, 22 last year (-40.91%)
Northwestern: 8 this year, 17 last year (-52.94%)
Cornell: 8 this year, 8 last year (0.00%)
Georgetown: 19 this year, 16 last year (18.5%)
Texas: 11 this year, 12 last year (-8.33%)
UCLA: 4 this year, 10 last year (-60.00%)
Vanderbilt: 2 this year, 6 last year (-66.67%)
WUSTL: 7 this year, 9 last year (-22.22%)


I plan to update this in a week or so, once most first deposit deadlines have passed.

I also obtained last year's LSN waitlist data (which I don't think has been posted anywhere else). I posted it in the "T14 Waitlist Data" thread, but I'm cross-posting it here.

Yale: 254 applicants, 23 waitlisted (9.06% of applicants), 0 waitlisted-->accepted (0.00% of waitlisted applicants)
Harvard: 596 applicants, 99 waitlisted (16.61%), 20 waitlisted-->accepted (20.20%)
Stanford: 480 applicants, 70 waitlisted (14.58%), 11 waitlisted-->accepted (15.71%)
Columbia: 667 applicants, 220 waitlisted (32.98%), 1 waitlisted-->accepted (0.45%)
Chicago: 553 applicants, 204 waitlisted (36.89%), 2 waitlisted-->accepted (0.98%)
NYU: 670 applicants, 118 waitlisted (17.61%), 19 waitlisted-->accepted (16.10%)
Penn: 665 applicants, 222 waitlisted (33.38%), 6 waitlisted-->accepted (2.70%)
UVA: 679 applicants, 266 waitlisted (39.18%), 8 waitlisted-->accepted (3.01%)
Berkeley: 546 applicants, 57 waitlisted (10.44%), 4 waitlisted-->accepted (7.02%)
Duke: 685 applicants, 191 waitlisted (27.88%), 7 waitlisted-->accepted (3.66%)
Michigan: 587 applicants, 176 waitlisted (29.98%), 6 waitlisted-->accepted (3.41%)
Northwestern: 459 applicants, 133 waitlisted (28.98%), 12 waitlisted-->accepted (9.02%)
Cornell: 538 applicants, 119 waitlisted (22.12%), 2 waitlisted-->accepted (1.68%)
Georgetown: 816 applicants, 197 waitlisted (24.14%), 17 waitlisted-->accepted (8.63%)
Texas: 386 applicants, 36 waitlisted (9.33%), 3 waitlisted-->accepted (8.33%)
Vanderbilt: 441 applicants, 96 waitlisted (21.77%), 5 waitlisted-->accepted (5.21%)
WUSTL: 407 applicants, 97 waitlisted (23.10%), 3 waitlisted-->accepted (3.19%)

I did not break the data down by % of applicants remaining on waitlist accepted because the reporting of data for that seems less consistent and reliable. If anyone wants me to go further down than WUSTL I can, but I didn't think it was important to do so.

[qwertyTLS]

question - how did you know how many were attending at this point in time last year? great work btw

[storpappa]

Does this show a decline in the number of people self-reporting on LSN?

I went looking for a few specific schools data and found the number of applicants was way lower then the numbers and %'s in the individual school decription pages. I initially thought it was a difference between the #'s and %'s including private LSN contributors, and the applicants tab only shows public contributors. But then I started wondering if the #'s / %'s on the school info page was just static or PR data from a source outside of the LSN self-reporting.

I also found a very high rate of self-reporting that did not update to reflect A/D/W status Without that follow-up it makes it hard to count Admits-Accepted for any school, when as an example, here is WUSTL from my data scrape a few days ago.

Accepted 158
Accepted A 6
Accepted W 55
219 57.3%
Waitlisted 55
Waitlisted W 9
64 16.8%
Rejected 30
30 7.9%
Pending 61
Pending W 8
69 18.1%
Total 1 382

Do you count WUSTL as having had only 6 people attending on that date?

[qwertyTLS]

i think using A/W to determine where applicants will be going at this point in the cycle is subject to too much variance.

the analysis you did but with those who were accepted at this point of the cycle would be interesting however...

[RareExports]

Does this show a decline in the number of people self-reporting on LSN?

I went looking for a few specific schools data and found the number of applicants was way lower then the numbers and %'s in the individual school decription pages. I initially thought it was a difference between the #'s and %'s including private LSN contributors, and the applicants tab only shows public contributors. But then I started wondering if the #'s / %'s on the school info page was just static or PR data from a source outside of the LSN self-reporting.

I also found a very high rate of self-reporting that did not update to reflect A/D/W status Without that follow-up it makes it hard to count Admits-Accepted for any school, when as an example, here is WUSTL from my data scrape a few days ago.

Do you count WUSTL as having had only 6 people attending on that date?

Yes. Obviously there are way more than 6 committed to WUSTL at this time, but more or less this effect is the same across all schools and cycles. It would also be artifically low at any school during any cycle. All of the data I cited is from public LSN profiles and nothing else, so it is subject to a large margin of error--traditional and otherwise.

[Big Red]

Does the process of writing an LOCI make anyone else like double their interest in a school? These things are actually getting kind of painful

[MadwomanintheAttic]

Does the process of writing an LOCI make anyone else like double their interest in a school? These things are actually getting kind of painful

+1 Absolutely. I'm WL at my top choice and I've written a couple of LOCI and it's emotionally draining knowing all this could be for nothing, yet still have this deep love for the school.

[blueberrycrumble]

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[dasani13]

Does anyone know which laptop you'll be using for school? I'm trying to decide between the 13" MacBook Pro and the Air.

[secadc11]

Does anyone know which laptop you'll be using for school? I'm trying to decide between the 13" MacBook Pro and the Air.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5&t=245795

[dasani13]

Does anyone know which laptop you'll be using for school? I'm trying to decide between the 13" MacBook Pro and the Air.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5&t=245795

oh lol, thank you