What kind of softs? Do they have to be academic softs? Besides a high GPA, I don't have much in this area. My UG school was a small, private religious school, and I don't have a Masters, never got anything published, but I've had some interesting work experience + a very interesting life story. I got into Penn 3 weeks after applying in late January. Not sure if it means anything though. Stanford >>>>>>>>>Penn.Knock wrote:You have a chance, but SLS softs and the entire application package is important.niederbomb wrote:Why is Stanford's median LSAT so low?
I am 170, 3.9X, but I have another, lower LSAT in the low 160's from October. However, I had to fly to a different country to take it, so I noted that on my addendum.
Seriously, any chance at Stanford? Just went complete. Of course I'd go there at sticker if I got in.
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It's really hard to say, there's no one size fit all softs that will get someone in, that's why SLS has a reputation of being somewhat of a black box for admissions. Your quick turnaround on Penn isn't likely indicative of anything except Penn liked your application.niederbomb wrote:What kind of softs? Do they have to be academic softs? Besides a high GPA, I don't have much in this area. My UG school was a small, private religious school, and I don't have a Masters, never got anything published, but I've had some interesting work experience + a very interesting life story. I got into Penn 3 weeks after applying in late January. Not sure if it means anything though. Stanford >>>>>>>>>Penn.Knock wrote:You have a chance, but SLS softs and the entire application package is important.niederbomb wrote:Why is Stanford's median LSAT so low?
I am 170, 3.9X, but I have another, lower LSAT in the low 160's from October. However, I had to fly to a different country to take it, so I noted that on my addendum.
Seriously, any chance at Stanford? Just went complete. Of course I'd go there at sticker if I got in.
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+1Knock wrote:It's really hard to say, there's no one size fit all softs that will get someone in, that's why SLS has a reputation of being somewhat of a black box for admissions. Your quick turnaround on Penn isn't likely indicative of anything except Penn liked your application.niederbomb wrote:What kind of softs? Do they have to be academic softs? Besides a high GPA, I don't have much in this area. My UG school was a small, private religious school, and I don't have a Masters, never got anything published, but I've had some interesting work experience + a very interesting life story. I got into Penn 3 weeks after applying in late January. Not sure if it means anything though. Stanford >>>>>>>>>Penn.Knock wrote:You have a chance, but SLS softs and the entire application package is important.niederbomb wrote:Why is Stanford's median LSAT so low?
I am 170, 3.9X, but I have another, lower LSAT in the low 160's from October. However, I had to fly to a different country to take it, so I noted that on my addendum.
Seriously, any chance at Stanford? Just went complete. Of course I'd go there at sticker if I got in.
Hate to break it to you, but I don't think it shows much aside from the fact that you may have a strong, overall application. However, history has shown us that this alone is not sufficient for admission to SLS... they are known to be somewhat of a black box, as the poster above said.
Try to be patient! Be glad you have Penn at least - some of us applied earlier and are still waiting!

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Black box is right. Here's a non-URM who was outright rejected from UVA and Penn who got into Stanford.Hate to break it to you, but I don't think it shows much aside from the fact that you may have a strong, overall application. However, history has shown us that this alone is not sufficient for admission to SLS... they are known to be somewhat of a black box, as the poster above said.
Try to be patient! Be glad you have Penn at least - some of us applied earlier and are still waiting!
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I guess S doesn't even care about GPA as much as people say.
I was pretty happy to go complete at Stanford. My Dean's Cert and Statement of Instructor were sent back in August, and I applied in late January. I was afraid they had discarded them.
I didn't expect to get in anywhere this cycle. But my 3-day turnaround at Vandy, 6 days at UT, and 24 days at Penn have given me hope.
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They care a lot about GPA but aren't afraid to make exceptions for applicants they want.niederbomb wrote:Black box is right. Here's a non-URM who was outright rejected from UVA and Penn who got into Stanford.Hate to break it to you, but I don't think it shows much aside from the fact that you may have a strong, overall application. However, history has shown us that this alone is not sufficient for admission to SLS... they are known to be somewhat of a black box, as the poster above said.
Try to be patient! Be glad you have Penn at least - some of us applied earlier and are still waiting!
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Destined/jd
I guess S doesn't even care about GPA as much as people say.
I was pretty happy to go complete at Stanford. My Dean's Cert and Statement of Instructor were sent back in August, and I applied in late January. I was afraid they had discarded them.
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I'm sitting here checking my status. Again. Why do I do this to myself? Blerg. When did people say Dean Deal was coming back?
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23rdHey-O wrote:I'm sitting here checking my status. Again. Why do I do this to myself? Blerg. When did people say Dean Deal was coming back?
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Another day starts another agonizing week of uncertainty. But who's counting?
On another note, does everyone else's SLS app have an entry for "Misconduct Explanation (if applicable)" with a checkmark beside it? Or is it just me because I have been a bad, bad boy.
On another note, does everyone else's SLS app have an entry for "Misconduct Explanation (if applicable)" with a checkmark beside it? Or is it just me because I have been a bad, bad boy.
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I have it too and I have not been bad to my knowledge.mikstew wrote:Another day starts another agonizing week of uncertainty. But who's counting?
On another note, does everyone else's SLS app have an entry for "Misconduct Explanation (if applicable)" with a checkmark beside it? Or is it just me because I have been a bad, bad boy.
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do you think it might be too late for me to submit an update/LOCI? I recently was unofficially promoted and have been doing much more interesting work at my job. i work in a science lab so i went from filing logs to actually helping interpret and analyze data. Do you think it's worth writing this?
If so, two quick questions:
1. what is the recommended length? I don't want to write anything too long, but anything too short looks kind of lazy.
2. what format do you send it in and if by email, as a pdf attachment or in the body, and also what is the subject line of the email?
Thanks guys.
edit: could sending something in ever HURT my chances? jc
If so, two quick questions:
1. what is the recommended length? I don't want to write anything too long, but anything too short looks kind of lazy.
2. what format do you send it in and if by email, as a pdf attachment or in the body, and also what is the subject line of the email?
Thanks guys.
edit: could sending something in ever HURT my chances? jc
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1) Seems like most people have been going for 1 page single spacedglitched wrote:do you think it might be too late for me to submit a LOCI? I recently was unofficially promoted and have been doing much more interesting work at my job. i work in a science lab so i went from filing logs to actually helping interpret and analyze data. Do you think it's worth writing the LOCI?
If so, two quick questions:
1. what is the recommended length? I don't want to write anything too long, but anything too short looks kind of lazy.
2. what format do you send it in and if by email, as a pdf attachment or in the body, and also what is the subject line of the email?
Thanks guys.
edit: could a loci ever HURT my chances? jc
2) I think PDF attachment is the easiest format for them to work with, so I would suggest that.
3) Yes, I think an LOCI could hurt you if it diverges from your application package theme. Does your WE play a significant role in your desire to attend Stanford?
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i wrote a personal statement that showed i wanted to work in biotechnology patent law. and right now at my lab, we are working with a lot of clinical, practical, and cutting-edge technologies (some that i didn't even learn in school).
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Intimidating to compete with people like this for a 1/11 chance at admission.glitched wrote:i wrote a personal statement that showed i wanted to work in biotechnology patent law. and right now at my lab, we are working with a lot of clinical, practical, and cutting-edge technologies (some that i didn't even learn in school).

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lol believe me. there is nothing to be intimidated about...niederbomb wrote:Intimidating to compete with people like this for a 1/11 chance at admission.glitched wrote:i wrote a personal statement that showed i wanted to work in biotechnology patent law. and right now at my lab, we are working with a lot of clinical, practical, and cutting-edge technologies (some that i didn't even learn in school).
i think i'm going to just write the letter. i will regret it if i don't. i just hope it's not too late.
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If done well, this sounds like it could be a compelling letter. I would send it in, unless you know you might have some major updates soon. If this is so, I would hold off and compile these to avoid a deluge of updates.glitched wrote:lol believe me. there is nothing to be intimidated about...niederbomb wrote:Intimidating to compete with people like this for a 1/11 chance at admission.glitched wrote:i wrote a personal statement that showed i wanted to work in biotechnology patent law. and right now at my lab, we are working with a lot of clinical, practical, and cutting-edge technologies (some that i didn't even learn in school).
i think i'm going to just write the letter. i will regret it if i don't. i just hope it's not too late.
Also, I agree that PDF attachment to email would be easiest for them. Keep it to a page or less, I would think.
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anyone want to read a LOCI? haha
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Pm if you wantglitched wrote:anyone want to read a LOCI? haha
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I'll take a look for you. Send me a PM.glitched wrote:anyone want to read a LOCI? haha
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Anybody have luck getting a response confirming LOCI was received? I emailed one (attached as PDF), got no response, wrote back a week later asking for confirmation; after a few days got an email saying that they did NOT get it (so it was accidentally deleted?) and that I should send again; sent again, along with request that they confirm receipt. Still no response.
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I got a response back within a few business days. I'd call their office and straighten it out, that's pretty unusual.somewhere wrote:Anybody have luck getting a response confirming LOCI was received? I emailed one (attached as PDF), got no response, wrote back a week later asking for confirmation; after a few days got an email saying that they did NOT get it (so it was accidentally deleted?) and that I should send again; sent again, along with request that they confirm receipt. Still no response.
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After sending it twice with no luck, I sent it from a different email address and quickly got a confirmation. Not really sure what the deal is with that.somewhere wrote:Anybody have luck getting a response confirming LOCI was received? I emailed one (attached as PDF), got no response, wrote back a week later asking for confirmation; after a few days got an email saying that they did NOT get it (so it was accidentally deleted?) and that I should send again; sent again, along with request that they confirm receipt. Still no response.
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What's the recommended email?coveyellow wrote:After sending it twice with no luck, I sent it from a different email address and quickly got a confirmation. Not really sure what the deal is with that.somewhere wrote:Anybody have luck getting a response confirming LOCI was received? I emailed one (attached as PDF), got no response, wrote back a week later asking for confirmation; after a few days got an email saying that they did NOT get it (so it was accidentally deleted?) and that I should send again; sent again, along with request that they confirm receipt. Still no response.
Edit: Oh, FROM a different email. Weird.
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admissions@law.stanford.edu. I'll add this to the FAQs.somewhere wrote:What's the recommended email?coveyellow wrote:After sending it twice with no luck, I sent it from a different email address and quickly got a confirmation. Not really sure what the deal is with that.somewhere wrote:Anybody have luck getting a response confirming LOCI was received? I emailed one (attached as PDF), got no response, wrote back a week later asking for confirmation; after a few days got an email saying that they did NOT get it (so it was accidentally deleted?) and that I should send again; sent again, along with request that they confirm receipt. Still no response.
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LOL at admissions using a spam filtersomewhere wrote:What's the recommended email?coveyellow wrote:After sending it twice with no luck, I sent it from a different email address and quickly got a confirmation. Not really sure what the deal is with that.somewhere wrote:Anybody have luck getting a response confirming LOCI was received? I emailed one (attached as PDF), got no response, wrote back a week later asking for confirmation; after a few days got an email saying that they did NOT get it (so it was accidentally deleted?) and that I should send again; sent again, along with request that they confirm receipt. Still no response.
Edit: Oh, FROM a different email. Weird.
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How else do your protect against Regent and long letters from Candy? Stanford is registered with LSAC, too, in some capacity. I bet they get all those emails.LOL at admissions using a spam filter
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