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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by daedalus2309 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:10 pm

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Kobaine51 wrote:
pylon wrote:Didn't realize the app deadline was so close (Feb 1st iirc)! Applicant pool will be set - and I'd imagine a lot more movement happens for those on the fringes when this occurs.
They'll prolly extend the deadline. They did last year, and if they don't continue that they will have cannibalized this years pool by doing so.
With four days notice? AFAIK last year the extension was because of major problems with December lsat administration, so they didn't cannabilize this year so much as save last year.

Unrelated, but are they taking February LSATs?
harvard faq wrote:Results of the February LSAT normally will not be considered in the current application cycle (e.g., results of the February 2014 LSAT will normally not be considered for applicants to the class entering in 2014).
Just answering my own question, in case anyone is curious. So on February 1, assuming no extensions, they should have a near-perfect idea of applicant pool in terms of LSATs/GPA. This assumes I guess that people whose CAS report arrives late accurately self-reported their scores elsewhere in the application (where it manually asks for test scores).

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by 2666 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:10 pm

DetroitRed wrote:
terrier27 wrote:
2666 wrote:
DetroitRed wrote:They've only admitted 20% of the class, give or take, so it has to happen sooner or later
They've already admitted 20%of the class :shock: ?
20% of the enrolled class of a little over 500 but they admit around 900 people total so there are still a TON more going out (if that makes you feel better!)
No, I meant 1/5 of all acceptances. (So ~180)
LOL. I'm just saying if they have already admitted 20% of their class after only 2 waves, then probably the JS2s won't come as frequently as we would like to see.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by af0890 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:14 pm

Unrelated, but are they taking February LSATs?[/quote]


I got an extension. I think they hold for Feb on request.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Nathanael » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:25 pm

2666 wrote:
LOL. I'm just saying if they have already admitted 20% of their class after only 2 waves, then probably the JS2s won't come as frequently as we would like to see.
That's old news ha. Many of us have seen 1.5-2 months pass since our JS1s and are still waiting.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by daedalus2309 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:11 pm

Nathanael wrote:
2666 wrote:
LOL. I'm just saying if they have already admitted 20% of their class after only 2 waves, then probably the JS2s won't come as frequently as we would like to see.
That's old news ha. Many of us have seen 1.5-2 months pass since our JS1s and are still waiting.
At this rate they'll have admitted 50% worth by the deposit deadline

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by mpc347 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:20 pm

Where are we getting this 180 number from again?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by RSN » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:22 pm

mpc347 wrote:Where are we getting this 180 number from again?
20% of 900, which is the expected total number of offers they'll make.

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Post by DetroitRed » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:23 pm

mpc347 wrote:Where are we getting this 180 number from again?
20% of the number admitted (~900)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by mpc347 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:24 pm

LetsGoMets wrote:
mpc347 wrote:Where are we getting this 180 number from again?
20% of 900, which is the expected total number of offers they'll make.
Yeah I got that much, but how do we know they have made 20% of offers?

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Post by Nathanael » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:35 pm

mpc347 wrote:
LetsGoMets wrote:
mpc347 wrote:Where are we getting this 180 number from again?
20% of 900, which is the expected total number of offers they'll make.
Yeah I got that much, but how do we know they have made 20% of offers?
I'm pretty sure it's just an estimation based on the TLS/LSN sample of applicants.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by asdfrewa » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:47 pm

Nathanael wrote:
mpc347 wrote:
LetsGoMets wrote:
mpc347 wrote:Where are we getting this 180 number from again?
20% of 900, which is the expected total number of offers they'll make.
Yeah I got that much, but how do we know they have made 20% of offers?
I'm pretty sure it's just an estimation based on the TLS/LSN sample of applicants.
But is it a valuable estimation if it relies on the assumption that the ratio (TLS acceptances)/(Actual acceptances) remains constant from year to year at any given point in the cycle? That's a pretty big assumption...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Kobaine51 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:50 pm

asdfrewa wrote: But is it a valuable estimation if it relies on the assumption that the ratio (TLS acceptances)/(Actual acceptances) remains constant from year to year at any given point in the cycle? That's a pretty big assumption...
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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by yot11 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:51 pm

It's based off of several factors, including (but not limited to):

1) # of people in the FB group: ~112
2) # of reported JS2
3) # of reported JS1

But by all means don't believe it if you don't want to.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by antiworldly » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:52 pm

asdfrewa wrote:
But is it a valuable estimation if it relies on the assumption that the ratio (TLS acceptances)/(Actual acceptances) remains constant from year to year at any given point in the cycle? That's a pretty big assumption...
It's not a bad estimation, may vary some year to year, but still it's probably accurate within +/- 25. Also, it's the best we've got in terms of a crystal ball to peer inside of Harvard's admissions office (unless anyone knows 'a friend' at the NSA who'd be willing to lend a hand. . . )

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by mpc347 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:54 pm

asdfrewa wrote:
Nathanael wrote:
mpc347 wrote:
LetsGoMets wrote:
20% of 900, which is the expected total number of offers they'll make.
Yeah I got that much, but how do we know they have made 20% of offers?
I'm pretty sure it's just an estimation based on the TLS/LSN sample of applicants.
But is it a valuable estimation if it relies on the assumption that the ratio (TLS acceptances)/(Actual acceptances) remains constant from year to year at any given point in the cycle? That's a pretty big assumption...
Valuable but not necessarily accurate.

I guess what we know for sure is that there have been two JS2 waves: one small one in December, and one bigger one in mid-Jan. By comparison, last year there were... what... 5 or 6 waves by this point (1 mini Nov, 2-3 Dec, 2-3 Jan?)?

Edit: Well, assuming that there has been at least one TLS or LSN user in each JS2 wave this cycle.

Also would have to assume that some of the 112 people in the HLS FB page are deferrals from last year...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by DetroitRed » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:04 pm

asdfrewa wrote: But is it a valuable estimation if it relies on the assumption that the ratio (TLS acceptances)/(Actual acceptances) remains constant from year to year at any given point in the cycle? That's a pretty big assumption...
I originally posted this estimation, and it was solely based on the relative number of LSN acceptances this year vs. last year. ( i.e. (LSN acceptances this year)/(LSN acceptances last year))

It's pretty crude, but it's as good an estimate as any given the information we have. I would imagine that the proportion of the total applicant pool that posts on LSN grows every year. If that were the case, 20% would be conservative.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by rseaney » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:07 pm

DetroitRed wrote:
asdfrewa wrote: But is it a valuable estimation if it relies on the assumption that the ratio (TLS acceptances)/(Actual acceptances) remains constant from year to year at any given point in the cycle? That's a pretty big assumption...
I originally posted this estimation, and it was solely based on the relative number of LSN acceptances this year vs. last year. ( i.e. (LSN acceptances this year)/(LSN acceptances last year))

It's pretty crude, but it's as good an estimate as any given the information we have. I would imagine that the proportion of the total applicant pool that posts on LSN grows every year. If that were the case, 20% would be conservative.
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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ballcaps » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:22 pm

ballcaps wrote:js2s...today tomorrow...

...right?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by tonysoprano » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:27 pm

ballcaps wrote:
ballcaps wrote:js2s...today tomorrow...

...right?
Pls

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:38 pm

There have been approximately 108 reported JS1s on TLS itt, and approximately 445 interview invitations sent (based on HorseThief/others available interview slots).

108/445=0.242. We can estimate TLS represents approximately 25% of the JS1 pool.

There have been 28 JS2s reported so far. Assuming there's no difference between those that post a JS1 and those that post a JS2 (which imo is a fair assumption as we are working with the same applicant pool), 28/0.242=115 total JS2s. That's why my guess is somewhere between 100-130 (changed from 100-120 earlier) total acceptances offered.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by qwertyTLS » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:08 am

long time lurker first time poster checking in. i want hls so badly. does anyone know when we might get another 'js2' wave?

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Post by rseaney » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:28 am

qwertyTLS wrote:long time lurker first time poster checking in. i want hls so badly. does anyone know when we might get another 'js2' wave?
i think the odds of getting a wave today/tomorrow aren't bad :D

but no, no one "knows" per se. general consensus seems to be that things have been moving a lil slower than they have in past years, which may indicate a lot of impending movement as they catch up/finalize the applicant pool.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Nathanael » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:44 am

rseaney wrote:
qwertyTLS wrote:long time lurker first time poster checking in. i want hls so badly. does anyone know when we might get another 'js2' wave?
i think the odds of getting a wave today/tomorrow aren't bad :D

but no, no one "knows" per se. general consensus seems to be that things have been moving a lil slower than they have in past years, which may indicate a lot of impending movement as they catch up/finalize the applicant pool.
They are conducting interviews today and tomorrow, do they ever send out JS2s on interview days? I'd love for you to be right, for the record.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Indifference » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:47 am

So, status checker said complete as of 1/23, but received the "complete" email today. Which to go by for timeline?

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