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Post by abc__ » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:08 pm

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cc1012 wrote:
cak3893 wrote:
abc__ wrote:
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abc__ wrote:Can you negotiate scholarships even if they already gave you an initial amount in your acceptance letter? If so, when would you even do that?

I was accepted mid-November and offered $30,000 for all three years, or $10,000 a year. I would probably only consider going if I received at least $20,000 a year. I have a 3.99 gpa and 160 lsat, so not sure how realistic I'm being.
Same question. When is the best time to negotiate scholarships? And what is the best way to do so?
If you check the admitted students website, this is what is reads under the tab for merit scholarships: "While GW Law does not engage in the negotiation of scholarship awards based on competing offers, we will review requests for scholarship reconsideration. From February 1- March 15, students will have an opportunity to complete our Scholarship Reconsideration Request form, which will be available on this page during that time frame."

My question is, is this how it always was or is this something new that they're doing? Does this mean you can't negotiate after March 15th? What if you get more acceptances/scholarship money to use as leverage after that date? March 15th is so early, especially for scholarship info...
Does this mean they don't want you to even bother mentioning competing offers?
If you have better offers, you should mention them regardless of what they say.

I doubt that this is a new policy but you could check in previous years' threads to see what they say. I would be shocked if they won't let you negotiate after March 15th. Many times, scholarship negotiations can carry on late into the summer.
^^ I agree. If you have better offers, tell them. I've always been told that schools will tell you they don't look at competing offers as a method of deterrence. If you have a school like USC or someone ranked higher giving you more money, there's no way they can ignore that if their job is to get you to come to that school.
Thanks for your responses, they were really helpful! On the note of leverage, do you think a June LSAT score could warrant more scholarship money, even if I've already deposited? As a reverse splitter tls has officially convinced me to retake. Would moving from a 160 to 165 be enough of a jump?

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Re: George Washington 2015-2016 Applicants

Post by hindo » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:28 pm

Can someone link me the status checker? I can't find it anywhere on the website...

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Post by Adcomm » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:32 pm

hindo wrote:Can someone link me the status checker? I can't find it anywhere on the website...
I was just about to ask the same thing. The url in their email doesn't work and I can't for the life of me find it on their website...

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Post by GrandJC » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:36 pm

Adcomm wrote:
hindo wrote:Can someone link me the status checker? I can't find it anywhere on the website...
I was just about to ask the same thing. The url in their email doesn't work and I can't for the life of me find it on their website...

https://aces2.lsac.org/YourStatus/membe ... dl9HPbk%3D

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Post by cc1012 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:11 pm

abc__ wrote:
woodchuck78 wrote:
cc1012 wrote:
cak3893 wrote:
abc__ wrote:
cak3893 wrote:
abc__ wrote:Can you negotiate scholarships even if they already gave you an initial amount in your acceptance letter? If so, when would you even do that?

I was accepted mid-November and offered $30,000 for all three years, or $10,000 a year. I would probably only consider going if I received at least $20,000 a year. I have a 3.99 gpa and 160 lsat, so not sure how realistic I'm being.
Same question. When is the best time to negotiate scholarships? And what is the best way to do so?
If you check the admitted students website, this is what is reads under the tab for merit scholarships: "While GW Law does not engage in the negotiation of scholarship awards based on competing offers, we will review requests for scholarship reconsideration. From February 1- March 15, students will have an opportunity to complete our Scholarship Reconsideration Request form, which will be available on this page during that time frame."

My question is, is this how it always was or is this something new that they're doing? Does this mean you can't negotiate after March 15th? What if you get more acceptances/scholarship money to use as leverage after that date? March 15th is so early, especially for scholarship info...
Does this mean they don't want you to even bother mentioning competing offers?
If you have better offers, you should mention them regardless of what they say.

I doubt that this is a new policy but you could check in previous years' threads to see what they say. I would be shocked if they won't let you negotiate after March 15th. Many times, scholarship negotiations can carry on late into the summer.
^^ I agree. If you have better offers, tell them. I've always been told that schools will tell you they don't look at competing offers as a method of deterrence. If you have a school like USC or someone ranked higher giving you more money, there's no way they can ignore that if their job is to get you to come to that school.
Thanks for your responses, they were really helpful! On the note of leverage, do you think a June LSAT score could warrant more scholarship money, even if I've already deposited? As a reverse splitter tls has officially convinced me to retake. Would moving from a 160 to 165 be enough of a jump?
Yes, that could be successful negotiation leverage, but it isn't as strong as having a better offer at another school, whether it be more money at a similarly ranked school or admission to a T14. Without such an offer, your leverage would be you threatening to sit out a cycle and reapply next cycle with a higher LSAT. Not as strong IMO, but still could be successful.

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Re: George Washington 2015-2016 Applicants

Post by hindo » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:31 am

GrandJC wrote:
Adcomm wrote:
hindo wrote:Can someone link me the status checker? I can't find it anywhere on the website...
I was just about to ask the same thing. The url in their email doesn't work and I can't for the life of me find it on their website...

https://aces2.lsac.org/YourStatus/membe ... dl9HPbk%3D

:)
Thank you!

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Post by law_dawg18 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:39 pm

Under review :D

loved GW. Got a much better vibe there than GEorgetown

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Post by invgr8 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:37 pm

Applied on 11/18

Does anyone know the numbers needed to get the Presidential Scholarship?

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Post by tflan19 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:50 pm

invgr8 wrote:Applied on 11/18

Does anyone know the numbers needed to get the Presidential Scholarship?
I'm guessing you know this but the Presidential Scholarship is only available to those who apply specifically through that binding admissions program. If you apply regularly, the most you can receive is 45k/year
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Post by invgr8 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:57 pm

tflan19 wrote:
invgr8 wrote:Applied on 11/18

Does anyone know the numbers needed to get the Presidential Scholarship?
I'm guessing you know this but the Presidential Scholarship is only available to those who apply specifically through that binding admissions program. If you apply regularly, the most you can receive is 35k/year
Yes I do, thanks. I was just wondering if anyone knew the needed LSAT and GPA to be considered to the Presidential Binding?

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Post by tflan19 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:05 pm

MikeChristopher wrote:I too am wondering if it is possible/worth trying to negotiate more than 35k/yr from GW as a regular-decision student. I was given an initial offer of -- 35k/yr. Should I anticipate any budging if I attempt to negotiate further than the 35k?

If I am not eligible to send a Scholarship Reconsideration Request Form (as in, can't access the form via the Admitted Students Portal), should I simply e-mail the admissions office and request reconsideration that way? And should I do this during or after the Feb 1-Mar 15 window?

This has been a source of major anxiety for me, as I do not think it will be financially feasible for me to attend GW without a full scholarship... any insights would be appreciated.
I realized that I misspoke (mistyped?) earlier and that the most they will give you yearly as a regular applicant is $45k. However, I remember seeing something somewhere (but can't find it now) that said that they won't negotiate with you over a certain level (it was around 30-35k). I'm guessing that you've already hit that max and thats why you can't see the request form. However, it wouldn't hurt to attempt to negotiate but really temper your expectations.

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Post by fliptrip » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:39 pm

nicola16 wrote:
MikeChristopher wrote:I too am wondering if it is possible/worth trying to negotiate more than 35k/yr from GW as a regular-decision student. I was given an initial offer of -- 35k/yr. Should I anticipate any budging if I attempt to negotiate further than the 35k?

If I am not eligible to send a Scholarship Reconsideration Request Form (as in, can't access the form via the Admitted Students Portal), should I simply e-mail the admissions office and request reconsideration that way? And should I do this during or after the Feb 1-Mar 15 window?

This has been a source of major anxiety for me, as I do not think it will be financially feasible for me to attend GW without a full scholarship... any insights would be appreciated.
I believe I read specifically on the ASW that they do not award full scholarships to non-Presidential scholars. You could get quite a lot, but not full, I'm guessing.
This policy is very intriguing. I think it's clever the way they have linked their full scholarships to forcing an early commitment to attend, but I don't see how/why they couldn't just manufacture that again in scholarship negotiation. They could easily have a commitment clause at the end of their scholarship reconsideration from which says that you commit to attend if they match your demands, up to a full scholarship.

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Post by wrestlme431 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:04 pm

I just went "decision made" applied via presidential.

Had a heart attack.

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Post by cphtexas » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:14 pm

Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh

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Post by hindo » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:39 pm

cphtexas wrote:Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh
I have the same status! I'm freaking out...what does this mean??

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Post by cphtexas » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:42 pm

hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh
I have the same status! I'm freaking out...what does this mean??
It means we're going to find out soon- I'm guessing later today via email from looking at previous posts

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Post by hindo » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:48 pm

cphtexas wrote:
hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh
I have the same status! I'm freaking out...what does this mean??
It means we're going to find out soon- I'm guessing later today via email from looking at previous posts
I just looked through previous posts and found out if you can log into the admitted student portal, you're in.

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Post by cphtexas » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:54 pm

hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:
hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh
I have the same status! I'm freaking out...what does this mean??
It means we're going to find out soon- I'm guessing later today via email from looking at previous posts
I just looked through previous posts and found out if you can log into the admitted student portal, you're in.
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Post by cphtexas » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:00 pm

If I can't access the Admitted Student Portal but it let me register, is that a definitely answer that I did not get in? Was everyone able to access the portal early before the decision email came?

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Post by wrestlme431 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:03 pm

cphtexas wrote:
hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:
hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh
I have the same status! I'm freaking out...what does this mean??
It means we're going to find out soon- I'm guessing later today via email from looking at previous posts
I just looked through previous posts and found out if you can log into the admitted student portal, you're in.
Did it work for you??
I just tried registering. It let me create a username and password, but when I try to log in I get an error message. Very Confusing.

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Post by cphtexas » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:04 pm

wrestlme431 wrote:
cphtexas wrote:
hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:
hindo wrote:
cphtexas wrote:Just went Decision Made as well... last update was In Review on 12/16; applied 12/7

So...now what?! Ahhh
I have the same status! I'm freaking out...what does this mean??
It means we're going to find out soon- I'm guessing later today via email from looking at previous posts
I just looked through previous posts and found out if you can log into the admitted student portal, you're in.
Did it work for you??
I just tried registering. It let me create a username and password, but when I try to log in I get an error message. Very Confusing.
That happened to me too... solidarity whether good or bad, right? Hah

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Post by cphtexas » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:20 pm

Accessed the ASP so I guess that means an acceptance!

Applied 12/7- 165/3.67

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