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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ravel » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:06 pm

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HorseThief wrote:Total (min) = 403
Do you really think they're going to do 800 more interviews? That's roughly 70 interviews a week if they go until the end of April nonstop. That would not even make sense since they have to get back to everybody by the end of April.
That's a really good point. Even if there are people who get interviewed off the waitlist (which does happen), getting to ~1200 is a tall feat. Although who knows whether they actually hit that target or not.
That drives up the likelihood of people who were interviewed getting in, so I have no complaints.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:06 pm

ThePinkRanger wrote:That equals 14 interviews per person per week. At 30 minutes per interview (prep plus interview time), that's 7 hours per week per person. That's manageable, no?
Manageable yes, however based on HorseThief's numbers it looks like the most they've done in a week is around 50 all cycle so far. It could definitely increase as we move forward though.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by HorseThief » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:07 pm

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HorseThief wrote:Turns out I forgot about the slots I mentioned for week 11. I've upped the total, but did anyone here interview during this past week? That's the only data I'm missing so far.
  • Week 1 (11/3): 25
  • Week 2 (11/10): 27
  • Week 3 (11/17): 48
  • Week 4 (11/24): 10
  • Week 5 (12/1): 46
  • Week 6 (12/8): 23
  • Week 7 (12/15): 49
  • Week 8 (12/22): 0
  • Week 9 (12/29): 0
  • Week 10 (1/5): 37
  • Week 11 (1/12): 53
  • Week 12 (1/19): 0
  • Week 13 (1/26): 34
  • Week 14 (2/1): 51
Total (min) = 403
Do you really think they're going to do 800 more interviews? That's roughly 70 interviews a week if they go until the end of April nonstop. That would not even make sense since they have to get back to everybody by the end of April.
Idk. They may have done 500-600 already. My impression, though, is that the spring was very busy for them (lots of late night JS1's and JS2's), so they might go into overdrive this spring to get all 1,200 interviews done.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by bruingrad1990 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:10 pm

So is the JS1 wave over or is it possible more will happen at the usual 4PM Eastern Time that JS1s have been released in the past? Just curious if I should stop checking my email

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by gold33 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:20 pm

superpatton wrote:
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superpatton wrote:Just received JS1 request! Very very excited! I hope the wave comes out for you guys soon!
Congrats! When did you submit?
I submitted about two weeks ago. I was very happy to see a request so quickly!
I submitted around then (1/12) and haven't even gone complete...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Harvette » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:22 pm

ravel wrote:Why do law schools have admissions Twitter pages if almost nothing pertaining to admissions is posted there?
The $1,000,000 question :lol:

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by humph » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:32 pm

gold33 wrote:
superpatton wrote:
gold33 wrote:
superpatton wrote:Just received JS1 request! Very very excited! I hope the wave comes out for you guys soon!
Congrats! When did you submit?
I submitted about two weeks ago. I was very happy to see a request so quickly!
I submitted around then (1/12) and haven't even gone complete...
So does this mean that they "complete" the people they want first and my wait is pointless... it literally says a 3-4 week wait. sigh.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by leslieknope » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:33 pm

gold33 wrote: I submitted around then (1/12) and haven't even gone complete...
submitted 1/8 and same.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ravel » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:45 pm

pylon wrote:
ThePinkRanger wrote:That equals 14 interviews per person per week. At 30 minutes per interview (prep plus interview time), that's 7 hours per week per person. That's manageable, no?
Manageable yes, however based on HorseThief's numbers it looks like the most they've done in a week is around 50 all cycle so far. It could definitely increase as we move forward though.
That's my point. Also, it's not just the 30 minutes. They have to do the initial review, read recs, personal statements, look at stats, plan interview, review interview performance, send in for faculty review, etc. It seems like a lot to do in the span of three months.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ThePinkRanger » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:49 pm

ravel wrote:
pylon wrote:
ThePinkRanger wrote:That equals 14 interviews per person per week. At 30 minutes per interview (prep plus interview time), that's 7 hours per week per person. That's manageable, no?
Manageable yes, however based on HorseThief's numbers it looks like the most they've done in a week is around 50 all cycle so far. It could definitely increase as we move forward though.
That's my point. Also, it's not just the 30 minutes. They have to do the initial review, read recs, personal statements, look at stats, plan interview, review interview performance, send in for faculty review, etc. It seems like a lot to do in the span of three months.
Right, but my 30 minute calc is only for the quick refresh prep up to and including the interview. The rest of the 33 hours per week (assuming they only work 40 hrs/wk during admissions season, which I doubt is true--prob more like 43 hrs/wk) are for the rest of the heavy lifting (i.e. initial review, read recs, personal statements, look at stats, review interview performance, send in for faculty review, read our TLS comments and laugh at us).

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ravel » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:52 pm

ThePinkRanger wrote:
ravel wrote:
pylon wrote:
ThePinkRanger wrote:That equals 14 interviews per person per week. At 30 minutes per interview (prep plus interview time), that's 7 hours per week per person. That's manageable, no?
Manageable yes, however based on HorseThief's numbers it looks like the most they've done in a week is around 50 all cycle so far. It could definitely increase as we move forward though.
That's my point. Also, it's not just the 30 minutes. They have to do the initial review, read recs, personal statements, look at stats, plan interview, review interview performance, send in for faculty review, etc. It seems like a lot to do in the span of three months.
Right, but my 30 minute calc is only for the quick refresh prep up to and including the interview. The rest of the 33 hours per week (assuming they only work 40 hrs/wk during admissions season, which I doubt is true--prob more like 43 hrs/wk) are for the rest of the heavy lifting (i.e. initial review, read recs, personal statements, look at stats, review interview performance, send in for faculty review, read our TLS comments and laugh at us).
Ugh fine. I was just trying to convince myself they're going to give up and start admitting everyone they interviewed.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Kobaine51 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:54 pm

So FWIW they do JS1s for people on the wait list too - and I am pretty sure they include those in the 1200. They put a lot of people on the wait list, and admit many students off the wait list. They have plenty of time.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by 90convoy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:55 pm

bruingrad1990 wrote:So is the JS1 wave over or is it possible more will happen at the usual 4PM Eastern Time that JS1s have been released in the past? Just curious if I should stop checking my email
Its def possible, but we will just have to see in an hour

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Skool » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:07 pm

Application suddenly complete today. Submitted Early Jan. Coincidence? Probably.

Would lose my shit for a JS1.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by HorseThief » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:20 pm

Okay, time for some horrible, rampant speculation. According to Harvards 2013 ABA 509 report, they had roughly 5,500 applicants. Given the drop in overall applications (about 10% compared to last year), let's knock off 500. Assume we'll have 5,000 applications to HLS this year.

By January of last year, about 35% of all applications had been sent in. So, as of Jan 1st, we've had about 1,750 applications to HLS.

By that time, I had counted 228 JS1's given out. That means 13% of applicants had been given JS1's, and if 2/3rds of all JS1's get JS2's, we're looking at a projected acceptance rate of 8.7%. Since their actual acceptance rate is 15.6%, my JS1 count must be way off.

TLDR; the total number of JS1's given out is probably closer to 500 or 600.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Indifference » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:21 pm

Skool wrote:Application suddenly complete today. Submitted Early Jan. Coincidence? Probably.

Would lose my shit for a JS1.
Same thing here. Probably need to fill up the early Feb interviews.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Bluelizard » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:31 pm

humph wrote:
So does this mean that they "complete" the people they want first and my wait is pointless... it literally says a 3-4 week wait. sigh.
I doubt that. I went complete in less than a week after submitting my app and haven't heard anything since then--early November.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Nathanael » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:32 pm

HorseThief wrote:Okay, time for some horrible, rampant speculation. According to Harvards 2013 ABA 509 report, they had roughly 5,500 applicants. Given the drop in overall applications (about 10% compared to last year), let's knock off 500. Assume we'll have 5,000 applications to HLS this year.

By January of last year, about 35% of all applications had been sent in. So, as of Jan 1st, we've had about 1,750 applications to HLS.

By that time, I had counted 228 JS1's given out. That means 13% of applicants had been given JS1's, and if 2/3rds of all JS1's get JS2's, we're looking at a projected acceptance rate of 8.7%. Since their actual acceptance rate is 15.6%, my JS1 count must be way off.

TLDR; the total number of JS1's given out is probably closer to 500 or 600.
A lot of assumptions there, haha. I would say that the JS1 to JS2 ratio is a bit higher than that, and that is probably especially true for early JS1's. This also doesn't take wait-lists/holds and unofficial holds into account.

I would certainly not be surprised if they had interviewed 500 or so thus far, but your count shouldn't be too far off.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ravel » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:38 pm

Friday evenings have gone from the best time to the worst time for me. Now, they're just accompanied with the feeling that nothing happened for five days and nothing will happen for the next two days.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by twitterati » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:38 pm

ravel wrote:Friday evenings have gone from the best time to the worst time for me. Now, they're just accompanied with the feeling that nothing happened for five days and nothing will happen for the next two days.
Hear, hear.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Tr3 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:41 pm

ravel wrote:Friday evenings have gone from the best time to the worst time for me. Now, they're just accompanied with the feeling that nothing happened for five days and nothing will happen for the next two days.
And then I get anxious for Monday to come but then IRL I'm still like, fuck, it's Monday.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ravel » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:55 pm

Tr3 wrote:
ravel wrote:Friday evenings have gone from the best time to the worst time for me. Now, they're just accompanied with the feeling that nothing happened for five days and nothing will happen for the next two days.
And then I get anxious for Monday to come but then IRL I'm still like, fuck, it's Monday.
It really all around blows.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by kadyevna » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:00 pm

HorseThief wrote:Turns out I forgot about the slots I mentioned for week 11. I've upped the total, but did anyone here interview during this past week? That's the only data I'm missing so far.
  • Week 1 (11/3): 25
  • Week 2 (11/10): 27
  • Week 3 (11/17): 48
  • Week 4 (11/24): 10
  • Week 5 (12/1): 46
  • Week 6 (12/8): 23
  • Week 7 (12/15): 49
  • Week 8 (12/22): 0
  • Week 9 (12/29): 0
  • Week 10 (1/5): 37
  • Week 11 (1/12): 53
  • Week 12 (1/19): 0
  • Week 13 (1/26): 34
  • Week 14 (2/1): 51
Total (min) = 403
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/ml2433

seems there were indeed JS1s this week

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Orion311 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:01 pm

ravel wrote:
Tr3 wrote:
ravel wrote:Friday evenings have gone from the best time to the worst time for me. Now, they're just accompanied with the feeling that nothing happened for five days and nothing will happen for the next two days.
And then I get anxious for Monday to come but then IRL I'm still like, fuck, it's Monday.
It really all around blows.
On the bright side, it's possible that we'll be waitlisted and have to wait until mid-August for a final decision, so we'll be in this state for the next 7 months. Wait. Shit.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ThePinkRanger » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:09 pm

ravel wrote:
Tr3 wrote:
ravel wrote:Friday evenings have gone from the best time to the worst time for me. Now, they're just accompanied with the feeling that nothing happened for five days and nothing will happen for the next two days.
And then I get anxious for Monday to come but then IRL I'm still like, fuck, it's Monday.
It really all around blows.
Truth. Perhaps we should start a new thread. I think this moment calls for haiku.

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