Columbia c/o 2020 applicants (2016-2017) Forum
- hellohalo
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Our guided tour was unprofessional. The guides didn't prepare at all. It was more like showing around the campus to their family/friends. It's like "I don't know the name of the building, but whatever, I'm not really sure about that, but whatever... hehe... hahaha"
One of our section leaders didn't put on the ambassador t-shirt. She sat on the desk while talking to us. I mean she obviously wants to be different and unique. She wants to show how relaxed and easy she is. She does provide good suggestions. But come on you are a 3L, not a high school chick. Be professional.
I can feel that people are happy. People are promised with their future. Yes this is what a professional school's priority. But like some other people mentioned, I feel a lack of "culture" "spirit".
With all the criticism, CLS is still top school, great facility, best "do well" placement, people are friendly, staff are helpful. The PI panel are really good. They are talented people. They know what they do. They speak so well! They are passionate. I am impressed by them. It's a great place to go!
One of our section leaders didn't put on the ambassador t-shirt. She sat on the desk while talking to us. I mean she obviously wants to be different and unique. She wants to show how relaxed and easy she is. She does provide good suggestions. But come on you are a 3L, not a high school chick. Be professional.
I can feel that people are happy. People are promised with their future. Yes this is what a professional school's priority. But like some other people mentioned, I feel a lack of "culture" "spirit".
With all the criticism, CLS is still top school, great facility, best "do well" placement, people are friendly, staff are helpful. The PI panel are really good. They are talented people. They know what they do. They speak so well! They are passionate. I am impressed by them. It's a great place to go!
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I completely agree with you about the "culture" point... i went to Columbia as an undergrad and I must say it was a major difference than my high school (we were all about school spirit due my school being located in a small suburbian town)... However, that being said, Columbia is situated in the UWS (very quiet and beautiful part in NYC! I actually live around there right now!!) and has the city as an extension of its campus. Plus you get the benefit of taking courses at Columbia's many other graduate programs including SIPA, CBS, etc. I think holistically (if you want to pursue a well rounded education) you would benefit tremendously by going to a school such as CLS where you can leverage the other networks the school has to offer.hellohalo wrote:Our guided tour was unprofessional. The guides didn't prepare at all. It was more like showing around the campus to their family/friends. It's like "I don't know the name of the building, but whatever, I'm not really sure about that, but whatever... hehe... hahaha"
One of our section leaders didn't put on the ambassador t-shirt. She sat on the desk while talking to us. I mean she obviously wants to be different and unique. She wants to show how relaxed and easy she is. She does provide good suggestions. But come on you are a 3L, not a high school chick. Be professional.
I can feel that people are happy. People are promised with their future. Yes this is what a professional school's priority. But like some other people mentioned, I feel a lack of "culture" "spirit".
With all the criticism, CLS is still top school, great facility, best "do well" placement, people are friendly, staff are helpful. The PI panel are really good. They are talented people. They know what they do. They speak so well! They are passionate. I am impressed by them. It's a great place to go!
Btw, anyone here going to the next ASW later this month?
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Yes, that's very true, but I was only making the distinction between Columbia and NYU. From what I could tell, both schools offered equal access to the top end of BigLaw.RParadela wrote:BigLaw isn't created equally. Columbia gives access to the top end of BigLaw that Cornell or Fordham doesn't for example.VA2lawschool wrote:Personally, I felt that the "sell" that I was given was related to the amount of money you're "guaranteed" to make if you go to Columbia. Also, it didn't help that the Columbia students I talked to said there wasn't a meaningful difference between opportunities afforded to NYU students and the ones they had, and yet they made no effort to differentiate why you would choose Columbia. The NYU students seemed to talk about the people they met, the experiences they had with professors, etc. You can go to BigLaw from so many places, why would that be your selling point? If you can go to BL for both, the community and the intangibles should matter. Hope that helps!mmestik wrote:Would you mind elaborating more on what you disliked about columbia and what you liked about nyu?VA2lawschool wrote:Really? I walked in thinking I would love Columbia, and walked out very confused. I spent some time at NYU today and liked it a lot better (leaving me very confused).jjcorvino wrote:Just want to say that admitted student days were fantastic. I am so sold on Columbia.
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I would think that Columbia places more kids in top end BL jobs, but that data is hard to come by and I have no way of knowing tbh. Although, Columbia does place more kids in BL+fed clerk than NYU by about 10%.VA2lawschool wrote:Yes, that's very true, but I was only making the distinction between Columbia and NYU. From what I could tell, both schools offered equal access to the top end of BigLaw.RParadela wrote:BigLaw isn't created equally. Columbia gives access to the top end of BigLaw that Cornell or Fordham doesn't for example.VA2lawschool wrote:Personally, I felt that the "sell" that I was given was related to the amount of money you're "guaranteed" to make if you go to Columbia. Also, it didn't help that the Columbia students I talked to said there wasn't a meaningful difference between opportunities afforded to NYU students and the ones they had, and yet they made no effort to differentiate why you would choose Columbia. The NYU students seemed to talk about the people they met, the experiences they had with professors, etc. You can go to BigLaw from so many places, why would that be your selling point? If you can go to BL for both, the community and the intangibles should matter. Hope that helps!mmestik wrote:Would you mind elaborating more on what you disliked about columbia and what you liked about nyu?VA2lawschool wrote:Really? I walked in thinking I would love Columbia, and walked out very confused. I spent some time at NYU today and liked it a lot better (leaving me very confused).jjcorvino wrote:Just want to say that admitted student days were fantastic. I am so sold on Columbia.
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.VA2lawschool wrote:Yes, that's very true, but I was only making the distinction between Columbia and NYU. From what I could tell, both schools offered equal access to the top end of BigLaw.RParadela wrote:BigLaw isn't created equally. Columbia gives access to the top end of BigLaw that Cornell or Fordham doesn't for example.VA2lawschool wrote:Personally, I felt that the "sell" that I was given was related to the amount of money you're "guaranteed" to make if you go to Columbia. Also, it didn't help that the Columbia students I talked to said there wasn't a meaningful difference between opportunities afforded to NYU students and the ones they had, and yet they made no effort to differentiate why you would choose Columbia. The NYU students seemed to talk about the people they met, the experiences they had with professors, etc. You can go to BigLaw from so many places, why would that be your selling point? If you can go to BL for both, the community and the intangibles should matter. Hope that helps!mmestik wrote:Would you mind elaborating more on what you disliked about columbia and what you liked about nyu?VA2lawschool wrote:Really? I walked in thinking I would love Columbia, and walked out very confused. I spent some time at NYU today and liked it a lot better (leaving me very confused).jjcorvino wrote:Just want to say that admitted student days were fantastic. I am so sold on Columbia.
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- Leliana
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Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts! I think it really goes to show how much of the decision comes down to your own personal impression. I personally had an amazing experience (I'm PI-focused fwiw) and I think it's going to be tough for any other schools to measure up... I was already leaning towards CLS as my first choice and after going to ASP I am also totally sold 

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See you in the Fall!Leliana wrote:Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts! I think it really goes to show how much of the decision comes down to your own personal impression. I personally had an amazing experience (I'm PI-focused fwiw) and I think it's going to be tough for any other schools to measure up... I was already leaning towards CLS as my first choice and after going to ASP I am also totally sold
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Btw what does everyone think about the housing? I didn't actually make into the second day of the ASP.
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Thanks for all these/thoughts impressions, guys! I'm going to the ASP at the end of the month (gonna do it back to back with NYU's), so I'm looking forward to making my own impressions
Will report back afterward!

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The differences in exit ops from V10 and the lower end BL jobs are significant. Plus, if you do make partner, your earning potential is much higher at V10 than at other BL firmsVapidP wrote:I guess there BigLaw and then the Vault top 5/10? I heard that the going to Columbia gave you a boost at the latter over NYU. That being said, I don't think BigLaw vs Vault 5/10 is that important and people probably shouldn't care about it.VA2lawschool wrote:Yes, that's very true, but I was only making the distinction between Columbia and NYU. From what I could tell, both schools offered equal access to the top end of BigLaw.RParadela wrote:BigLaw isn't created equally. Columbia gives access to the top end of BigLaw that Cornell or Fordham doesn't for example.VA2lawschool wrote:Personally, I felt that the "sell" that I was given was related to the amount of money you're "guaranteed" to make if you go to Columbia. Also, it didn't help that the Columbia students I talked to said there wasn't a meaningful difference between opportunities afforded to NYU students and the ones they had, and yet they made no effort to differentiate why you would choose Columbia. The NYU students seemed to talk about the people they met, the experiences they had with professors, etc. You can go to BigLaw from so many places, why would that be your selling point? If you can go to BL for both, the community and the intangibles should matter. Hope that helps!mmestik wrote:Would you mind elaborating more on what you disliked about columbia and what you liked about nyu?VA2lawschool wrote:Really? I walked in thinking I would love Columbia, and walked out very confused. I spent some time at NYU today and liked it a lot better (leaving me very confused).jjcorvino wrote:Just want to say that admitted student days were fantastic. I am so sold on Columbia.
(I could be totally wrong about this, not super interested in big law)
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Haha yes! That was greatThelaw23 wrote:See you in the Fall!Leliana wrote:Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts! I think it really goes to show how much of the decision comes down to your own personal impression. I personally had an amazing experience (I'm PI-focused fwiw) and I think it's going to be tough for any other schools to measure up... I was already leaning towards CLS as my first choice and after going to ASP I am also totally sold
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IMO the housing is a good deal for NYC. I went to the housing office to talk to their coordinator (who was really helpful with answering my questions) and also visited some of the apartments. I did only see apartments that were part of UAH general graduate housing and not the law school exclusive housing, but they were all within easy walking distance, very spacious for the city, and students were paying $1000-1200 for shares. Definitely a win over NYU's student housing...Thelaw23 wrote:Btw what does everyone think about the housing? I didn't actually make into the second day of the ASP.
Honestly, I was set on a studio but after seeing the apartments I think I'd also be fine with a share. They prioritize studios for couples anyway.
One of the students told me that if you're in NYC over the summer you can actually go and check out your apartment once you get your housing offer to decide whether or not to accept. Which is nice for those of us who live here

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see you there!airwrecka wrote:Thanks for all these/thoughts impressions, guys! I'm going to the ASP at the end of the month (gonna do it back to back with NYU's), so I'm looking forward to making my own impressionsWill report back afterward!
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Thanks for the info! I got some tips from admitted students how to best get a studio, anyone can PM for information. At this point, though, I'm not sure if I want a studio. I still have time to mull over it, though haha.Leliana wrote:Haha yes! That was greatThelaw23 wrote:See you in the Fall!Leliana wrote:Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts! I think it really goes to show how much of the decision comes down to your own personal impression. I personally had an amazing experience (I'm PI-focused fwiw) and I think it's going to be tough for any other schools to measure up... I was already leaning towards CLS as my first choice and after going to ASP I am also totally sold
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IMO the housing is a good deal for NYC. I went to the housing office to talk to their coordinator (who was really helpful with answering my questions) and also visited some of the apartments. I did only see apartments that were part of UAH general graduate housing and not the law school exclusive housing, but they were all within easy walking distance, very spacious for the city, and students were paying $1000-1200 for shares. Definitely a win over NYU's student housing...Thelaw23 wrote:Btw what does everyone think about the housing? I didn't actually make into the second day of the ASP.
Honestly, I was set on a studio but after seeing the apartments I think I'd also be fine with a share. They prioritize studios for couples anyway.
One of the students told me that if you're in NYC over the summer you can actually go and check out your apartment once you get your housing offer to decide whether or not to accept. Which is nice for those of us who live here
And that's definitely great I"ll get to see the place before accepting.
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RParadela wrote:I would think that Columbia places more kids in top end BL jobs, but that data is hard to come by and I have no way of knowing tbh. Although, Columbia does place more kids in BL+fed clerk than NYU by about 10%.VA2lawschool wrote:Yes, that's very true, but I was only making the distinction between Columbia and NYU. From what I could tell, both schools offered equal access to the top end of BigLaw.RParadela wrote:BigLaw isn't created equally. Columbia gives access to the top end of BigLaw that Cornell or Fordham doesn't for example.VA2lawschool wrote:Personally, I felt that the "sell" that I was given was related to the amount of money you're "guaranteed" to make if you go to Columbia. Also, it didn't help that the Columbia students I talked to said there wasn't a meaningful difference between opportunities afforded to NYU students and the ones they had, and yet they made no effort to differentiate why you would choose Columbia. The NYU students seemed to talk about the people they met, the experiences they had with professors, etc. You can go to BigLaw from so many places, why would that be your selling point? If you can go to BL for both, the community and the intangibles should matter. Hope that helps!mmestik wrote:Would you mind elaborating more on what you disliked about columbia and what you liked about nyu?VA2lawschool wrote:Really? I walked in thinking I would love Columbia, and walked out very confused. I spent some time at NYU today and liked it a lot better (leaving me very confused).jjcorvino wrote:Just want to say that admitted student days were fantastic. I am so sold on Columbia.
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Reserve today
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does reserve mean we still have a decent chance?
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Reserve. I'm sure this has been asked and answered, but does reserve = waitlist, or does Columbia have two separate types of hold?
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It's the same as waitlist. They do have hold, but that's different.simplypara588 wrote:Reserve. I'm sure this has been asked and answered, but does reserve = waitlist, or does Columbia have two separate types of hold?
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I'm also PI-focused, but won't be able to make it to an ASD. Would you be up for elaborating more? I'm leaning towards Columbia because of the LRAP, but am definitely nervous about its reputation of having a corporate culture.Leliana wrote:Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts! I think it really goes to show how much of the decision comes down to your own personal impression. I personally had an amazing experience (I'm PI-focused fwiw) and I think it's going to be tough for any other schools to measure up... I was already leaning towards CLS as my first choice and after going to ASP I am also totally sold
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I'm happy to be put on reserve. What are the stats of getting off reserve? Does this LOCI have to be carefully written?
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Honestly feel like I will just never hear anything back from Columbia at this point.
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also on reserve todayZVBXRPL wrote:I'm happy to be put on reserve. What are the stats of getting off reserve? Does this LOCI have to be carefully written?
RE: WL stats ... http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... p?t=225363
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pretty sure Keilz and I are with you on that onelsa16 wrote:Honestly feel like I will just never hear anything back from Columbia at this point.

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So what goes in a LOCI?BoyJord wrote:also on reserve todayZVBXRPL wrote:I'm happy to be put on reserve. What are the stats of getting off reserve? Does this LOCI have to be carefully written?
RE: WL stats ... http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... p?t=225363
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+1ldlestrange wrote:pretty sure Keilz and I are with you on that onelsa16 wrote:Honestly feel like I will just never hear anything back from Columbia at this point.talk to us Columbia!
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