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Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:04 pm

A NYU fully is second only to a Hamilton in best possible law schools admissions outcomes for nearly everyone.

I get we're all a little guilty of being prestige whores though and it's more satisfying to drop the H bomb at your high school reunion.

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Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:09 pm

canafsa wrote:
Rigo wrote:it's more satisfying to drop the H bomb at your high school reunion.
Call me petty but that's worth a good 20k to me right off the bat, lol
It's only that way because of Legally Blonde probably in my corner of middle America.

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Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:11 pm

lol @ Stanford turning down the Legally Blonde movie

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by ashrice13 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:14 pm

Leliana wrote:
Snowjon wrote:
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anonperson2017 wrote:while we all anxiously await JS1s/JS2s, what are people's thoughts on this: who here would pick a UVA Dillard or NYU RTK if offered over HLS?
Yes to RTK, no to Dillard.
Reasoning?
I plan to work in PI, currently live in NYC and would like to stay in NYC (if it were hypothetically a Vandy and not RTK I'd still take NYU). I will also be paying sticker at HLS in the event I get a JS2, so I'm already seriously considering CLS/NYU over it, depending on merit aid.

I realize a lot of that is personal so it may not be helpful to you, sorry heh :p
I'd choose HLS for the exact opposite reasons.

I live in MA and would like to stay in MA. I think I also stand to get some money if I go to HLS.

An added bonus for me is that If I stay in MA I can live outside of Boston with my SO and have some help/a greatly reduced COL. The commute would suck but financially, it makes much more sense.

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Post by dinan15 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:23 pm

What about the ruby at Chicago? I just found out yesterday and it's making me question everything

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Post by OnlyHumean » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:47 pm

anonperson2017 wrote:while we all anxiously await JS1s/JS2s, what are people's thoughts on this: who here would pick a UVA Dillard or NYU RTK if offered over HLS?
I think I'm likely to get a decent financial aid package from HLS (I'm from a low-income family and qualified for an LSAC wavier) so I think it would be HLS for me.

That said, I'm not very averse to debt (some people here seem to treat debt hanging over their head as if it was the sword of Damocles). I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RTK might be better ones for some people.

HLS has programs that specifically appeal to my area of interest, and quite a generous loan repayment program, so I think I'd still choose it even at sticker.

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Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:50 pm

OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.

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Post by jjcorvino » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:51 pm

OnlyHumean wrote:
anonperson2017 wrote:while we all anxiously await JS1s/JS2s, what are people's thoughts on this: who here would pick a UVA Dillard or NYU RTK if offered over HLS?
I think I'm likely to get a decent financial aid package from HLS (I'm from a low-income family and qualified for an LSAC wavier) so I think it would be HLS for me.

That said, I'm not very averse to debt (some people here seem to treat debt hanging over their head as if it was the sword of Damocles). I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.

HLS has programs that specifically appeal to my area of interest, and quite a generous loan repayment program, so I think I'd still choose it even at sticker.
This is where I stand, HYS at sticker are all well worth it. I would even argue that CCN at sticker are worth it. Of course, worth it vs. best option is a different argument. I think full ride at CCN is probably a better deal than HYS at sticker unless you have very specific goals that can only be achieved at HYS.

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Post by nimbus cloud » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:52 pm

Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
+1. If the intention is to lift your family out of poverty, then a full ride would be a better choice. Otherwise the family will be waiting for a long time for you to pay off your loans before you can help them.
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Post by jjcorvino » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:53 pm

Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
I think it could be argued that HYS has a guarantee of success/job that might outweigh the debt. I don't know if it is a strong argument, but it is reasonable to take the extra debt for more security.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:56 pm

jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
I think it could be argued that HYS has a guarantee of success/job that might outweigh the debt. I don't know if it is a strong argument, but it is reasonable to take the extra debt for more security.
Which jobs are guaranteed at Harvard that aren't at NYU?

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Post by unrelated » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:58 pm

Rigo wrote:
jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
I think it could be argued that HYS has a guarantee of success/job that might outweigh the debt. I don't know if it is a strong argument, but it is reasonable to take the extra debt for more security.
Which jobs are guaranteed at Harvard that aren't at NYU?
Not always about the jobs--more the people you meet, networks you make. That's the real difference between CCN and HYS for me.

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Post by jjcorvino » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:03 pm

Rigo wrote:
jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
I think it could be argued that HYS has a guarantee of success/job that might outweigh the debt. I don't know if it is a strong argument, but it is reasonable to take the extra debt for more security.
Which jobs are guaranteed at Harvard that aren't at NYU?
Maybe not a guarantee, but there are definitely things that you can do out of H that is more difficult to do at NYU. I would imagine if you want to be an academic, it is way more difficult from NYU than H.

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Post by Rigo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:04 pm

unrelated wrote: Not always about the jobs--more the people you meet, networks you make. That's the real difference between CCN and HYS for me.
This claim so dubious I don't know how to respond other than to urge you to question your reasoning.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
I think it could be argued that HYS has a guarantee of success/job that might outweigh the debt. I don't know if it is a strong argument, but it is reasonable to take the extra debt for more security.
Which jobs are guaranteed at Harvard that aren't at NYU?
Maybe not a guarantee, but there are definitely things that you can do out of H that is more difficult to do at NYU. I would imagine if you want to be an academic, it is way more difficult from NYU than H.
Okay. Guarantee is way too strong a word for what you're referring to then.

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Rigo wrote:
jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
jjcorvino wrote:
Rigo wrote:
OnlyHumean wrote: I think even at sticker, HLS is an objectively good choice, and one that would help lift my family out of poverty, even if Dillard or RYK might be better ones for some people.
How does more debt better lift your family out of poverty? Your logic here is fishy.
I think it could be argued that HYS has a guarantee of success/job that might outweigh the debt. I don't know if it is a strong argument, but it is reasonable to take the extra debt for more security.
Which jobs are guaranteed at Harvard that aren't at NYU?
Maybe not a guarantee, but there are definitely things that you can do out of H that is more difficult to do at NYU. I would imagine if you want to be an academic, it is way more difficult from NYU than H.
Okay. Guarantee is way too strong a word for what you're referring to then.
I also don't really have data to back this up, but I would bet a fair amount of money that the lowest in the class at Harvard has a better chance of success than the lowest in the class at NYU.

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