lol that made me smileBorhas wrote:we reviewed your cycle, and have decided to deny you the award for worst cycle of the year. Unfortunately, while your cycle is surely one of the worst, there are many others that are definitely worse. It has been a competitive cycle and there just not enough awards to go around. We wish you luck on further endeavors, and would like to congratulate you on your decision to study law.finalaspects wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/finalaspects
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I wouldn't assume you know too much about me. I've been through a bit of adversity with law school applications. Last cycle before my retake I went 0/6 in a cycle where I applied to several schools ranked in the 50-80 range. My optimism for this cycle was born of the hard work I put into improving my LSAT score and my belief that I presented a strong application package to several schools I'd love to attend. There were no silver spoons involved.ec2xs wrote:I have to agree. You sound like a kid whose silver spoon just hit the floor. No offense, but you'll get into at least one of those schools. No use making a thread to lament the fact that you were waitlisted by a ton of schools that people would kill to go to, with plenty left to hear from.LieutKaffee wrote:Numbers-wise or results-wise? Be careful not to confuse the two. I hate elitist bastards on TLS who whine about numbers that most people envy, and it's not lost on my that my LSAT score is in the top 1%.DonnyMost wrote:There's a lot of people who would give their left nut to be in your position, so don't throw a pity party just yet.
Still, for anyone who puts some planning and research into their application cycle (so that they have an appropriate number of reaches, targets, safeties, etc.), getting nothing but WL sucks.
I agree, it sucks. But it's hard to throw you a pity party.
Also, I wouldn't have made the thread if I thought it would offend a bunch of people. I know there are a variety of people on TLS with numbers and cycle results better than, comparable to, or worse than mine. I was just reacting to my Georgetown email and figured I might find some solidarity and good conversation.
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LOLBorhas wrote:we reviewed your cycle, and have decided to deny you the award for worst cycle of the year. Unfortunately, while your cycle is surely one of the worst, there are many others that are definitely worse. It has been a competitive cycle and there just not enough awards to go around. We wish you luck on further endeavors, and would like to congratulate you on your decision to study law.finalaspects wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/finalaspects
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My results for the T14 i applied to: 2 rejections, 3 WL's, 2 acceptances, 1 hold, and 2 pending. Not terrible, but with an LSAT above the 75th percentile for all schools applied to except Columbia and a GPA hovering around the 25th percentile for most I thought my cycle would have a few more acceptances by now.LieutKaffee wrote:I nominate myself. Still haven't gotten in anywhere in the top 50. At this rate, I'll be playing the WL game with half the T14 and I won't know where I'm going until August. And that's being optimistic.
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Without looking at any numbers, what does that put you, around 173/3.5? Seems like a decent mixed bag for splitter type numbers. If Michigan and/or Northwestern and/or Cornell come through in the near future, we might be in similar boats. I wish you luck, my friend.Richie Tenenbaum wrote:My results for the T14 i applied to: 2 rejections, 3 WL's, 2 acceptances, 1 hold, and 2 pending. Not terrible, but with an LSAT above the 75th percentile for all schools applied to except Columbia and a GPA hovering around the 25th percentile for most I thought my cycle would have a few more acceptances by now.LieutKaffee wrote:I nominate myself. Still haven't gotten in anywhere in the top 50. At this rate, I'll be playing the WL game with half the T14 and I won't know where I'm going until August. And that's being optimistic.
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I don't think you should worrying about it offending anyone. I'm a little bored of people who say "people would kill for your LSAT score, stop crying!" Yeah, well you got the score and you busted your ass and still got rejected/waitlisted. It sucks, I know it personally. You should be allowed to say so. Putting in the amount of work to get that score and get let down does suck. Not that I'm saying someone who scored lower didn't put in the work, I'm sure they did, but you're still allowed to be disappointed. I support this thread!LieutKaffee wrote:I wouldn't assume you know too much about me. I've been through a bit of adversity with law school applications. Last cycle before my retake I went 0/6 in a cycle where I applied to several schools ranked in the 50-80 range. My optimism for this cycle was born of the hard work I put into improving my LSAT score and my belief that I presented a strong application package to several schools I'd love to attend. There were no silver spoons involved.ec2xs wrote:I have to agree. You sound like a kid whose silver spoon just hit the floor. No offense, but you'll get into at least one of those schools. No use making a thread to lament the fact that you were waitlisted by a ton of schools that people would kill to go to, with plenty left to hear from.LieutKaffee wrote:Numbers-wise or results-wise? Be careful not to confuse the two. I hate elitist bastards on TLS who whine about numbers that most people envy, and it's not lost on my that my LSAT score is in the top 1%.DonnyMost wrote:There's a lot of people who would give their left nut to be in your position, so don't throw a pity party just yet.
Still, for anyone who puts some planning and research into their application cycle (so that they have an appropriate number of reaches, targets, safeties, etc.), getting nothing but WL sucks.
I agree, it sucks. But it's hard to throw you a pity party.
Also, I wouldn't have made the thread if I thought it would offend a bunch of people. I know there are a variety of people on TLS with numbers and cycle results better than, comparable to, or worse than mine. I was just reacting to my Georgetown email and figured I might find some solidarity and good conversation.

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If you got Preferred WL at GULC and Priority Reserve at Duke, those MAY be YP-ish type decisions. Write a convincing LOCI and maintain a good line of communication with the admissions staff and you can probably get in and possible get some scholarship dollars.
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where'd you get the silver spoon bit from? am i missing something?ec2xs wrote: I have to agree. You sound like a kid whose silver spoon just hit the floor. No offense, but you'll get into at least one of those schools. No use making a thread to lament the fact that you were waitlisted by a ton of schools that people would kill to go to, with plenty left to hear from.
I agree, it sucks. But it's hard to throw you a pity party.
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Silver spoon? um, what? How does a high LSAT=spoiled? Expectations can change depending on your starting place. Last cycle if I was were I was currently at this cycle I would be insanely happy. This year, while I am still very happy to be in the position I'm in, I am still a little disappointed I am underperforming for what my numbers would seem to dictate.ec2xs wrote:I have to agree. You sound like a kid whose silver spoon just hit the floor. No offense, but you'll get into at least one of those schools. No use making a thread to lament the fact that you were waitlisted by a ton of schools that people would kill to go to, with plenty left to hear from.LieutKaffee wrote:Numbers-wise or results-wise? Be careful not to confuse the two. I hate elitist bastards on TLS who whine about numbers that most people envy, and it's not lost on my that my LSAT score is in the top 1%.DonnyMost wrote:There's a lot of people who would give their left nut to be in your position, so don't throw a pity party just yet.
Still, for anyone who puts some planning and research into their application cycle (so that they have an appropriate number of reaches, targets, safeties, etc.), getting nothing but WL sucks.
I agree, it sucks. But it's hard to throw you a pity party.
I support this thread.
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It's not about scores or silver spoons.Kim617 wrote:
I don't think you should worrying about it offending anyone. I'm a little bored of people who say "people would kill for your LSAT score, stop crying!" Yeah, well you got the score and you busted your ass and still got rejected/waitlisted. It sucks, I know it personally. You should be allowed to say so. Putting in the amount of work to get that score and get let down does suck. Not that I'm saying someone who scored lower didn't put in the work, I'm sure they did, but you're still allowed to be disappointed. I support this thread!
His cycle doesn't look bad to me at all, especially considering the schools he's getting WL'd at.
Sure, disappointment is relative. But all I meant was to give him a friendly reminder that things could be worse, a lot worse, and he's probably got more good news coming than bad.
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GULC does not yield protect. With its huge class size, it can't afford to. GULC accepts everyone it likes, including 4.0/180 types who are almost surely destined to attend HYS.thickfreakness wrote:If you got Preferred WL at GULC and Priority Reserve at Duke, those MAY be YP-ish type decisions. Write a convincing LOCI and maintain a good line of communication with the admissions staff and you can probably get in and possible get some scholarship dollars.
I'm less sure about Duke, but I seriously doubt they would yield protect a 3.6/172. Those numbers scream DNCG.
YP or not, it's a good idea to send a LOCI anyway.
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I agree that it probably isn't YP, but you'd be hard pressed to find more than a couple of 3.6/172 types that didn't get MVP or better.Dignan wrote:GULC does not yield protect. With its huge class size, it can't afford to. GULC accepts everyone it likes, including 4.0/180 types who are almost surely destined to attend HYS.thickfreakness wrote:If you got Preferred WL at GULC and Priority Reserve at Duke, those MAY be YP-ish type decisions. Write a convincing LOCI and maintain a good line of communication with the admissions staff and you can probably get in and possible get some scholarship dollars.
I'm less sure about Duke, but I seriously doubt they would yield protect a 3.6/172. Those numbers scream DNCG.
YP or not, it's a good idea to send a LOCI anyway.
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Duke would've PRed him if he didn't write a Why Duke. OP writes a good Why Duke LOCI and I think his chances of getting in are much improved.Dignan wrote:GULC does not yield protect. With its huge class size, it can't afford to. GULC accepts everyone it likes, including 4.0/180 types who are almost surely destined to attend HYS.thickfreakness wrote:If you got Preferred WL at GULC and Priority Reserve at Duke, those MAY be YP-ish type decisions. Write a convincing LOCI and maintain a good line of communication with the admissions staff and you can probably get in and possible get some scholarship dollars.
I'm less sure about Duke, but I seriously doubt they would yield protect a 3.6/172. Those numbers scream DNCG.
YP or not, it's a good idea to send a LOCI anyway.
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It's got to be this guy: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/daninreallife
175/3.74 screwed around with his ED obligation to CLS and got rejected from all top schools...
175/3.74 screwed around with his ED obligation to CLS and got rejected from all top schools...
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forza wrote:It's got to be this guy: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/daninreallife
175/3.74 screwed around with his ED obligation to CLS and got rejected from all top schools...
Fake.
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The WL at GULC and Duke would hurt with his numbers, as would the NYU rejection. Anytime you are representing the yellow or red dot in the sea of green on LSN, it's not too comforting.DonnyMost wrote:It's not about scores or silver spoons.Kim617 wrote:
I don't think you should worrying about it offending anyone. I'm a little bored of people who say "people would kill for your LSAT score, stop crying!" Yeah, well you got the score and you busted your ass and still got rejected/waitlisted. It sucks, I know it personally. You should be allowed to say so. Putting in the amount of work to get that score and get let down does suck. Not that I'm saying someone who scored lower didn't put in the work, I'm sure they did, but you're still allowed to be disappointed. I support this thread!
His cycle doesn't look bad to me at all, especially considering the schools he's getting WL'd at.
Sure, disappointment is relative. But all I meant was to give him a friendly reminder that things could be worse, a lot worse, and he's probably got more good news coming than bad.
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That sucks, but he did go above and beyond to ensure his rejections. What a douche.forza wrote:It's got to be this guy: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/daninreallife
175/3.74 screwed around with his ED obligation to CLS and got rejected from all top schools...
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The OP scored a 172 on the LSAT so OP cannot be a nominee for this award.
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From your LSN: "11/08/09 - Just submitted ED-NYU and Michigan."
Just to clarify, you applied ED to NYU and regular decision to Michigan right?
Just to clarify, you applied ED to NYU and regular decision to Michigan right?
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If you're talking about the OP, his cycle looks ridiculously bad for his numbers.DonnyMost wrote: It's not about scores or silver spoons.
His cycle doesn't look bad to me at all, especially considering the schools he's getting WL'd at.
Sure, disappointment is relative. But all I meant was to give him a friendly reminder that things could be worse, a lot worse, and he's probably got more good news coming than bad.
OP - if I were you I'd immediately:
1) review my application materials
2) if at all feasible, mention the poor cycle thus far to recommenders and see if they volunteer any thoughts on why that might be
3) google yourself and see if there's anything terribly offensive that comes up
Good luck!
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What was OP's personal statement like? Did you write 'ass' instead of as? Are you a horrible writer? Did your letters of recommendation screw you over?
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I would put at least one vote in for this guy:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/encyclopediabrown
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Depends on how you look at worst cycle. Of course, someone with a 2.1/141 is going to probably have a horrific cycle--but that's to be expected. Someone with 172 and a decent GPA can reasonably expect to get into some top schools, and would understandably be disappointed if that doesn't come to fruition.LSAT N00b wrote:The OP scored a 172 on the LSAT so OP cannot be a nominee for this award.
I still think Kaffee will get a few bites, but I do think he's had a rough go of it this time around.
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Nah, the 2.95 GPA makes a bad cycle sort of expected.mps200 wrote:I would put at least one vote in for this guy:
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/encyclopediabrown
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Yeah, you are right to an extent, but he only has 1 rejection so far. I don't see how that could be considered a horrible cycle.AngryAvocado wrote:Depends on how you look at worst cycle. Of course, someone with a 2.1/141 is going to probably have a horrific cycle--but that's to be expected. Someone with 172 and a decent GPA can reasonably expect to get into some top schools, and would understandably be disappointed if that doesn't come to fruition.LSAT N00b wrote:The OP scored a 172 on the LSAT so OP cannot be a nominee for this award.
I still think Kaffee will get a few bites, but I do think he's had a rough go of it this time around.
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