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bhan87 · Post by **bhan87** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:23 am

Hey everyone. Joining the group pretty late in the game (Columbia just confirmed I went complete this morning).

Some posts above discussed an index that's calculated based on GPA / LSAT. I was wondering what's considered a competitive index number.

Also, on a related point, this index number is the number you find next to your LSAT score on the LSAC report sent to each school correct?

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:25 am

before we get out of hand, index number is a number used to "index" files. Your LSAT/GPA is still going to be doing the talking. So don't get too hung up on the index number which is just a derivative of the numbers that make all the difference - so just go back to comparing the real numbers.

bhan87 · Post by **bhan87** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:27 am

r6_philly wrote:before we get out of hand, index number is a number used to "index" files. Your LSAT/GPA is still going to be doing the talking. So don't get too hung up on the index number which is just a derivative of the numbers that make all the difference - so just go back to comparing the real numbers.

This certainly makes a lot of sense considering some schools may wish to weight one number over the other.

arkansawyer · Post by **arkansawyer** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:28 am

Dude I've got a 4.5 does that mean I could be up for a Hamilton?

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:29 am

arkansawyer wrote:Dude I've got a 4.5 does that mean I could be up for a Hamilton?

Depends on your LSAT/GPA that make the 4.5 ... read above.

arkansawyer · Post by **arkansawyer** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:30 am

Well how high can the index number go? I'm trying to figure out how to calculate it with my fall grades added in...

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:31 am

arkansawyer wrote:Well how high can the index number go? I'm trying to figure out how to calculate it with my fall grades added in...

Ummm. It's an "index" number, not a "decision" number. Indexing means sorting the files. I really don't think they make decisions based on the index alone... they will look at your LSAT and then your GPA, so what difference does it make how how it goes?

arkansawyer · Post by **arkansawyer** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:37 am

r6_philly wrote:
arkansawyer wrote:Well how high can the index number go? I'm trying to figure out how to calculate it with my fall grades added in...
Ummm. It's an "index" number, not a "decision" number. Indexing means sorting the files. I really don't think they make decisions based on the index alone... they will look at your LSAT and then your GPA, so what difference does it make how how it goes?

I just assumed the index number must be some way of comparing very similar scores. The bigger the better

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:38 am

arkansawyer wrote: I just assumed the index number must be some way of comparing very similar scores. The bigger the better

I assume they first compare the LSAT, then compare the GPA if the LSAT is the same.

hotshot234512 · Post by **hotshot234512** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:43 am

is the vomit deposited into applicants permanent or current address? assuming one does in fact get accepted

Knock · Post by **Knock** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:44 am

hotshot234512 wrote:is the vomit deposited into applicants permanent or current address? assuming one does in fact get accepted

Current

ahduth · Post by **ahduth** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:42 am

hotshot234512 wrote:is the vomit deposited into applicants permanent or current address? assuming one does in fact get accepted

Assume nothing, trust no one. This is a really, really bad thread to read when you have a nasty case of the flu.

NikaneOkie · Post by **NikaneOkie** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:04 am

Hamilton or Stanford?
What would you do? Not that I'm presumptuous enough to think this will happen to me, but I've been considering the possibility.

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:06 am

Hamilton all day long.

(I will not have either option.

)

rundoxierun · Post by **rundoxierun** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:09 am

NikaneOkie wrote:Hamilton or Stanford?
What would you do? Not that I'm presumptuous enough to think this will happen to me, but I've been considering the possibility.

Depends on the aid from Stanford.. at least 23k/yr from Stanford and Id say Stanford hands down.

Knock · Post by **Knock** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:24 am

NikaneOkie wrote:Hamilton or Stanford?
What would you do? Not that I'm presumptuous enough to think this will happen to me, but I've been considering the possibility.

Hamilton definitely. Basically a debt free education from a T4? Can't beat that.

St.Remy · Post by **St.Remy** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:36 am

Knock wrote:Hamilton definitely. Basically a debt free education from a T4? Can't beat that.

Well there is this school named Yale...

cardinals1989 · Post by **cardinals1989** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:40 am

Knock wrote:
NikaneOkie wrote:Hamilton or Stanford?
What would you do? Not that I'm presumptuous enough to think this will happen to me, but I've been considering the possibility.
Hamilton definitely. Basically a debt free education from a T4? Can't beat that.

Knock, your heresy is astounding.

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:40 am

St.Remy wrote:
Knock wrote:Hamilton definitely. Basically a debt free education from a T4? Can't beat that.
Well there is this school named Yale...

I'd take Hamilton over Yale, too (assuming Yale was near sticker.) It would take a decent amount of need-based aid to complicate things, for me at least.

St.Remy · Post by **St.Remy** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:42 am

eskimo wrote:
St.Remy wrote:
Knock wrote:Hamilton definitely. Basically a debt free education from a T4? Can't beat that.
Well there is this school named Yale...
I'd take Hamilton over Yale, too (assuming Yale was near sticker.) It would take a decent amount of need-based aid to complicate things, for me at least.

I wouldn't, but I suppose it depends on what you want to do after Law School.

jtemp320 · Post by **jtemp320** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:13 am

awahoya wrote:Question about the index: If you have two LSAT scores, a reason for the lower one, and they choose to take the higher one, will they recalculate your index for you? On my LSAC report it's the average index...but I added an addendum and they request the add. for score leaps as big as I had...

As R6 stated my understanding (from what I've picked up here - could be wrong) is that the index is not determinative of the decision its just a way to roughly group files which they then review. It also serves as a rough indicator for applicants obsessing about their chances... Generally good index number is good.

I'm not trying to suggest they are being "holistic" or anything crazy like that - just that they look at your actual scores and GPA. For the record they told me and others over the phone if the score gap is 6+ points they emphasize the higher even w/out an addendum. I hope thats true because in that case I have a 4.5...otherwise, quite a bit lower.

rundoxierun · Post by **rundoxierun** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:20 am

eskimo wrote:
St.Remy wrote:
Knock wrote:Hamilton definitely. Basically a debt free education from a T4? Can't beat that.
Well there is this school named Yale...
I'd take Hamilton over Yale, too (assuming Yale was near sticker.) It would take a decent amount of need-based aid to complicate things, for me at least.

TBH, a CCN full-ride is almost always a better choice than any of HYS from an immediate financial standpoint.

But HYS types are more often than not the type that arent really prioritizing the immediate financial benefits of the degree.

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:33 am

cardinals1989 wrote: Knock, your heresy is astounding.

This needs no additions.

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:33 am

NikaneOkie wrote:Hamilton or Stanford?
What would you do? Not that I'm presumptuous enough to think this will happen to me, but I've been considering the possibility.

Stanford.

LinzerTorte · Post by **LinzerTorte** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:03 am

ahduth wrote:
hotshot234512 wrote:is the vomit deposited into applicants permanent or current address? assuming one does in fact get accepted
Assume nothing, trust no one. This is a really, really bad thread to read when you have a nasty case of the flu.

Word. I had a major stomach bug when we first started doing vomit-based LOLcats. UNpleasant.

Also, everyone talking about CCN schollys vs. HYS sticker is depressing me! Can we go back to just stressing about our index numbers (sorry philly!)?

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