UVA c/o 2019 Applicants (2015-2016) Forum

[ChocoFreeze]

^brace yourself. The "retake" posts are coming....

LOL! you're right, but "retake" is a broken record because it's vastly more often than not the right advice.

Choco, you're not just a reverse splitter for the T-14, you're an extreme reverse splitter in that your LSAT is significantly below most of their 25%iles. This is a problem because instead of your GPA tugging upwards on interpretations of your LSAT, your LSAT is tugging downwards on interpretations of your GPA. Consider, you mentioned you are coming from a, in your words, mediocre undergrad, which is going to cause natural skepticism about your GPA. Your LSAT, as it stands, is only going to reinforce that skepticism.

I'd say that right now for your goals (getting $$$ at a T-14), you probably don't have enough ammunition. There's absolutely no shame in bowing out, retaking the LSAT and seeing your options multiply once you get at least at or above something like a 167. Moving from 163-167 is just a matter of getting about six more questions right. You aren't seriously telling yourself you can't do that are you?

You have a point I guess... I'm just bummed because I got two 163s in a row, June and October

[biddymulligan]

Would those dinged today mind to please PM me your stats? Also, does UVA waitlist applicants without interviewing them?

[EnderWiggin]

Would those dinged today mind to please PM me your stats? Also, does UVA waitlist applicants without interviewing them?

Sorry to hear about the bad news this morning.

It would be more helpful to more posters, present and future, to update the spreadsheet with a ding/WL decision. The spreadsheets suffer from (understandable) selection bias in decision reporting. Each year it seems those who receive bad news from a school don't go back and update the decision and decision date cells.

[fliptrip]

^brace yourself. The "retake" posts are coming....

LOL! you're right, but "retake" is a broken record because it's vastly more often than not the right advice.

Choco, you're not just a reverse splitter for the T-14, you're an extreme reverse splitter in that your LSAT is significantly below most of their 25%iles. This is a problem because instead of your GPA tugging upwards on interpretations of your LSAT, your LSAT is tugging downwards on interpretations of your GPA. Consider, you mentioned you are coming from a, in your words, mediocre undergrad, which is going to cause natural skepticism about your GPA. Your LSAT, as it stands, is only going to reinforce that skepticism.

I'd say that right now for your goals (getting $$$ at a T-14), you probably don't have enough ammunition. There's absolutely no shame in bowing out, retaking the LSAT and seeing your options multiply once you get at least at or above something like a 167. Moving from 163-167 is just a matter of getting about six more questions right. You aren't seriously telling yourself you can't do that are you?

You have a point I guess... I'm just bummed because I got two 163s in a row, June and October

Understandable, but repeated actions with the expectation of different results is not gonna win the game. What did you do differently between June and October? How deeply do you understand where you're missing on the LSAT and more importantly, do you know why you got right what you got right? The difference between a mid-150s-mid-160s scorer and a high 160s-low 170s scorer is the extent to which they are running the test as opposed to the test running them.

If you can hit upon a study strategy that allows you to diagnose where you are strongest and weakest at a more granular level than just section to section (for instance, how are you doing on inference vs. conclusion questions and do you see how they are similar and how they are different), then you'll find that you're drilling with precision and should in time see your score go up. You have a 3.97 GPA, which regardless of where you go to school, is a very impressive feat. You definitely have the ability to get the score you want/need.

[squirtlesquad14]

UR1 11/12 and radio silence Hopefully I'll finally hear something one way or the other this week.

[Shib26]

Dinged.

UR1 11/04
UR2 1/31

Dinged. Great way to start off a Monday morning lol.

UR1 - 1/11

Did either of you guys get status checker updates beforehand?

I did not. At least not that I noticed. I don't think I looked at the status checker since last Thursday so I suppose there's a possibility that it updated sometime in that window.

[JuliusCaesar]

Dinged. Great way to start off a Monday morning lol.

UR1 - 1/11

Would you mind pming your stats?

[ChocoFreeze]

Since I've been UR1 for 3 months with no update or interview request, is it a good idea to send Virginia a LOCI?

Same with Duke and Michigan, who i've been UR for 2 months ;_;

[lymenheimer]

Since I've been UR1 for 3 months with no update or interview request, is it a good idea to send Virginia a LOCI?

Same with Duke and Michigan, who i've been UR for 2 months ;_;

The "LOCI" title is generally used for waitlist submissions: Letter of Continuing/Continued Interest. If you are still UR and haven't withdrawn your app, you are obviously still interested in the program. They just haven't gotten around to deciding on your application. Instead of a particular LOCI-style draft, you could supplement your application with a "Why UVA/Duke/Mich" if you did not submit them with your original application (they often look similar, but also often have a different tone when drafted). This would not be off-putting in the least as it is something many schools often ask for and many applicants often submit these essays later in the cycle.

[kangaroo430]

Waitlisted today. What are the odds of getting off the list realistically? My stats are below both medians

[EnderWiggin]

Just received a Dillard!!! Arrived via USPS

[tflan19]

Just received a Dillard!!! Arrived via USPS

Congratulations!!! You deserve it!

Does anyone know if there is a "ceiling" on scholarship negotiations with UVA? Like I'm guessing you can't negotiate yourself up to a dillard or a dean's scholarship at full tuition?

[benwyatt]

Just received a Dillard!!! Arrived via USPS

Congrats Wiggin!

ETA: now just transfer that Dillard over to me, Harvard boy

[mabes]

UVA sending all these Dillards in the mail really sent me for a loop when I ripped open this "Learning by Doing" catalog.....

[benwyatt]

UVA sending all these Dillards in the mail really sent me for a loop when I ripped open this "Learning by Doing" catalog.....

Oh man that's rough

[herewego321]

denied this morning....oh well only applied cause of the matching scholarship for Berkeley

[sanibella]

Just received a Dillard!!! Arrived via USPS

Wooo!! Congrats!

Sorry to all who were dinged

[EnderWiggin]

Thank you all!! This is only the second school I've heard back from scholarship-wise, so it absolutely feels amazing. This whole decision thing just got incredibly more difficult in a wonderful way.

[sanibella]

Thank you all!! This is only the second school I've heard back from scholarship-wise, so it absolutely feels amazing. This whole decision thing just got incredibly more difficult in a wonderful way.

Best kind of problem to have!

[20171203]

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[philawsopher]

Thank you all!! This is only the second school I've heard back from scholarship-wise, so it absolutely feels amazing. This whole decision thing just got incredibly more difficult in a wonderful way.

Same here. Got a Dillard with my official acceptance letter over the weekend, which I completely did not expect (I thought at most UVA would offer me something like 1/2 tuition). Suddenly UVA is looking really really good. Faye Deal are you reading this??? If so, call me!

[justakicker]

UR1 11/12 and radio silence Hopefully I'll finally hear something one way or the other this week.

UR1 a bit earlier than that and radio silence as well. At GPA median, above LSAT 75, and wrote a genuine why UVA. Leaves me wondering....

[Theresa87]

Above both medians and wait listed today. No C&F issues .... Why

[BirdLawExpert]

Above both medians and wait listed today. No C&F issues .... Why

YP? Maybe. Sorry to hear about that, best of luck with the WL!

[HoosOnFirst]

^brace yourself. The "retake" posts are coming....

LOL! you're right, but "retake" is a broken record because it's vastly more often than not the right advice.

Choco, you're not just a reverse splitter for the T-14, you're an extreme reverse splitter in that your LSAT is significantly below most of their 25%iles. This is a problem because instead of your GPA tugging upwards on interpretations of your LSAT, your LSAT is tugging downwards on interpretations of your GPA. Consider, you mentioned you are coming from a, in your words, mediocre undergrad, which is going to cause natural skepticism about your GPA. Your LSAT, as it stands, is only going to reinforce that skepticism.

I'd say that right now for your goals (getting $$$ at a T-14), you probably don't have enough ammunition. There's absolutely no shame in bowing out, retaking the LSAT and seeing your options multiply once you get at least at or above something like a 167. Moving from 163-167 is just a matter of getting about six more questions right. You aren't seriously telling yourself you can't do that are you?

You have a point I guess... I'm just bummed because I got two 163s in a row, June and October

I got a 165 in June and felt certain I could do better, so I studied like a fiend for 3 months and I got a 166 in October. I was really bummed because I had gotten way higher on a good deal of my practice exams (and a 1 point bump for all my studying was an awful trade)... anyway, I decided I was psyching myself out too hard over these tests, so I signed up for December, didn't study, and made sure I did everything I could to relax before my test, and finally got a score I wanted on the 3rd try.

I'm not saying the "don't study" method is going to work for you, but if you can zero in on what's holding you back, it may really be worth another shot. If, however, your scores reflect your practice tests and you feel you were taking your tests in the best possible conditions, it may not be.