URM cycles are more unpredictable (I think) because softs are more significant because the applicant pools are smaller, numbers are often less strong, etc. I spoke to a pre law advisor at one of those LSAC forums who used to work for a t6, and basically she was like certain URM's are "diverse enough" for schools with a lower yield for minorities (cornell, Michigan, Chicago) but might not be for the schools on the coast that heavily attract minority students. Like for example a school like Chicago in theory might take a Hispanic applicant that doesn't speak Spanish, but NYU/Columbia/Texas/Cali schools would prefer a URM that speaks the language and has more pronounced roots to their heritage because they have more yield from URMs overall. I've heard that UVA and Penn are most difficult for URMs to get into because there's less of a boost, but not sure how true that is.Rdominicana15 wrote:I am a URM. And I hadn't heard of it being this unpredictable. Granted I haven't heard back from NYU either. My numbers are on the lows like low 16x LSAT. 3.79 GPAlilitiger99 wrote:Are you URM? I am, and everyone I've spoken to highlights the unpredictability of URM cycles - shared rejection from penn too. Related, one of my URM friends is at Yale with low 16x LSAT, and was rejected from half of the t13.Rdominicana15 wrote:Application went under review 1/4/17 --> Still havent heard anything...
Cycle has been messy:
in at Columbia, Berkeley and others
Waitlisted at Michigan, Chicago, Harvard
Rejected: UPenn, Stanford, and Georgetown
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Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.HonestlyThough wrote:Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trumpmathaddict wrote:Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.HonestlyThough wrote:Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at allseeprybyrun wrote:I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."HonestlyThough wrote:I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to goOneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.
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tbh, i think a lot of these schools probably wouldn't want you if you were a trump supporter, and that's what makes this political time different and that's why they feel comfy breaching neutralitymathaddict wrote:Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.HonestlyThough wrote:Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trumpmathaddict wrote:Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.HonestlyThough wrote:Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at allseeprybyrun wrote:I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."HonestlyThough wrote:I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to goOneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.
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My Columbia interviewer had an Obama "HOPE" poster behind him. If I had been a conservative that would have definitely created a "chilling" effect in what I felt comfortable saying. Considering the discretion in admissions, it seems obvious that a staunch conservative would be looked on unfavorably by someone passionate enough about their beliefs to have an Obama poster in-frame when conducting an interview with a total stranger.mathaddict wrote:Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.HonestlyThough wrote:Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trumpmathaddict wrote:Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.HonestlyThough wrote:Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at allseeprybyrun wrote:I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."HonestlyThough wrote:I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to goOneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.
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I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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Naaa, I think you're thinking of Rand.potterotter wrote:Aren't you a prolific libertarian?OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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This is news to me, but I'm on board.OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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lol I'm a hardcore liberal. Tho I suppose you could classify me as a neocon when it comes to foreign policy.potterotter wrote:Naaa definitely thinking of youOneHandedEconomist wrote:Naaa, I think you're thinking of Rand.potterotter wrote:Aren't you a prolific libertarian?OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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Could definitely see some strains of libertarianism mapping nicely onto bacchanalian living.Pozzo wrote:This is news to me, but I'm on board.OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?Pozzo wrote:This is news to me, but I'm on board.OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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I wonder if this is actually a thing. Does the conservative majority on the court mean students with obvious conservative credentials are more likely to get a look from a Justice?seeprybyrun wrote:Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?Pozzo wrote:This is news to me, but I'm on board.OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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I mean, if there's a Republican president and Senate, yeah.Whittie wrote:I wonder if this is actually a thing. Does the conservative majority on the court mean students with obvious conservative credentials are more likely to get a look from a Justice?seeprybyrun wrote:Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?Pozzo wrote:This is news to me, but I'm on board.OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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I mean, Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and now Gorsuch are/were all members.Whittie wrote:I wonder if this is actually a thing. Does the conservative majority on the court mean students with obvious conservative credentials are more likely to get a look from a Justice?seeprybyrun wrote:Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?Pozzo wrote:This is news to me, but I'm on board.OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.
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Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.[/quote]mathaddict wrote:Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trumpHonestlyThough wrote:Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.mathaddict wrote:Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at allseeprybyrun wrote:I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."HonestlyThough wrote:I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to goOneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.
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My app was explicitly reactionary and I owned it. Sometimes life happens and you make decisions.HonestlyThough wrote:
I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go
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Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturdaymaysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...notsonotorious wrote:i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturdaymaysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.OneHandedEconomist wrote:Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...notsonotorious wrote:i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturdaymaysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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Yeah, probably 10-20 acceptances and 90-100 waitlists by the end of Saturday.maysecheryn wrote:That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.OneHandedEconomist wrote:Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...notsonotorious wrote:i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturdaymaysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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And I'll bet that you owned, owning it!notsonotorious wrote:My app was explicitly reactionary and I owned it. Sometimes life happens and you make decisions.HonestlyThough wrote:
I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go

In my personal case, I worry some parts of my app could have come off as disingenuous if the reader were convinced that I just decided to apply to law school
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Sounds about right. It blows me away every time I'm reminded of how few people they acceptOneHandedEconomist wrote:Yeah, probably 10-20 acceptances and 90-100 waitlists by the end of Saturday.maysecheryn wrote:That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.OneHandedEconomist wrote:Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...notsonotorious wrote:i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturdaymaysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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I wonder how many people instantly respond "No thanks" when they get the waitlist.HonestlyThough wrote:Sounds about right. It blows me away every time I'm reminded of how few people they acceptOneHandedEconomist wrote:Yeah, probably 10-20 acceptances and 90-100 waitlists by the end of Saturday.maysecheryn wrote:That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.OneHandedEconomist wrote:Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...notsonotorious wrote:i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturdaymaysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?
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