NU Apps '11-'12 - Good Luck Hold Candidates!!!! <3 Forum

[STLMizzou]

For me, it cold cuts out Michigan, Minnesota. Not big on upper east coast cuts out Cornell, Penn, and both the Bostons. West coast cuts out all the Cals.

What's left for a splitter is not too much besides from schools that strictly train for their state.

But then again, Friday on my walk I found myself thinking the weather was really nice even though it was 35 out (just happened to not be super windy/cloudy for once), so maybe Chicago is changing me.

[AmandaPB]

For me, it cold cuts out Michigan, Minnesota. Not big on upper east coast cuts out Cornell, Penn, and both the Bostons. West coast cuts out all the Cals.

What's left for a splitter is not too much besides from schools that strictly train for their state.

But then again, Friday on my walk I found myself thinking the weather was really nice even though it was 35 out (just happened to not be super windy/cloudy for once), so maybe Chicago is changing me.

Hi Mizzou friend. I go there now! Good luck with Northwestern.

[Eugenie Danglars]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

[JamMasterJ]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

wouldn't the legitimacy be based on the relationship between the child-bearer and the donor/father?

[Eugenie Danglars]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

wouldn't the legitimacy be based on the relationship between the child-bearer and the donor/father?

Yeah, exactly. So a even a married lesbian couple could have bastard children together. Bizarre thought of the day

[addy11]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

wouldn't the legitimacy be based on the relationship between the child-bearer and the donor/father?

Yeah, exactly. So a even a married lesbian couple could have bastard children together. Bizarre thought of the day

The whole idea of legitimacy is about as antiquated and useless as the arguments against same sex marriage, IMHO.

[Eugenie Danglars]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

wouldn't the legitimacy be based on the relationship between the child-bearer and the donor/father?

Yeah, exactly. So a even a married lesbian couple could have bastard children together. Bizarre thought of the day

The whole idea of legitimacy is about as antiquated and useless as the arguments against same sex marriage, IMHO.

If only people who wrote law where as forward thinking as you. I mean, there are still some trusts and things that bar illegitimate descendants, etc.

[bdubs]

If only people who wrote law where as forward thinking as you. I mean, there are still some trusts and things that bar illegitimate descendants, etc.

Wouldn't the instrument define legitimacy? Sounds like an issue of interpretation rather than law.

It's an interesting issue though. Are you covering it in one of your courses?

[addy11]

If only people who wrote law where as forward thinking as you. I mean, there are still some trusts and things that bar illegitimate descendants, etc.

Yeah, I guess it's the giver's prerogative to cling to such things when their money is in play. It seems like those people have the "concept" of legitimacy in mind more so than whatever the law says... I mean I can't imagine some crusty old scrooge assenting to his estate going to his lesbian daughter's child (via anonymous sperm donor) just because the law was amended.

Anyway, all of my relatives are poor, so none of my illegitimate kids will have anything to fret over

[Eugenie Danglars]

If only people who wrote law where as forward thinking as you. I mean, there are still some trusts and things that bar illegitimate descendants, etc.

Yeah, I guess it's the giver's prerogative to cling to such things when their money is in play. It seems like those people have the "concept" of legitimacy in mind more so than whatever the law says... I mean I can't imagine some crusty old scrooge assenting to his estate going to his lesbian daughter's child (via anonymous sperm donor) just because the law was amended.

Anyway, all of my relatives are poor, so none of my illegitimate kids will have anything to fret over

It's not for a class, but it sort of came up when I was talking with an older student taking family law. Kinda blew my mind a little.

[STLMizzou]

For me, it cold cuts out Michigan, Minnesota. Not big on upper east coast cuts out Cornell, Penn, and both the Bostons. West coast cuts out all the Cals.

What's left for a splitter is not too much besides from schools that strictly train for their state.

But then again, Friday on my walk I found myself thinking the weather was really nice even though it was 35 out (just happened to not be super windy/cloudy for once), so maybe Chicago is changing me.

Hi Mizzou friend. I go there now! Good luck with Northwestern.

Thanks! Enjoy your last semester in Columbia! Good luck to you as well (although with those splits I don't think you need any luck)

[elibrarian]

I get nervous when I don't see this thread at the top of the page so...ahem.

[JamMasterJ]

I get nervous when I don't see this thread at the top of the page so...ahem.

have you not been constantly refreshing the NYU thread?

[JustE]

I get nervous when I don't see this thread at the top of the page so...ahem.

Agreed. New twitter post from J this morning... Unfortunately no new info for us, though.

[D-hops]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

wouldn't the legitimacy be based on the relationship between the child-bearer and the donor/father?

Yeah, exactly. So a even a married lesbian couple could have bastard children together. Bizarre thought of the day

Technically, with the new civil union law, a child born to one of the married lesbians would be (legally) assumed to be the child of both the women because that is the way the law is structured.

[JustE]

Michigan's getting too close... we need some activity in here, people!

[crumpetsandtea]

E, I like the name!!!!!!!!!!!!

[addy11]

Question for pondering: If an unmarried lesbian couple in a civil union has children, are they illegitimate?

wouldn't the legitimacy be based on the relationship between the child-bearer and the donor/father?

Yeah, exactly. So a even a married lesbian couple could have bastard children together. Bizarre thought of the day

Technically, with the new civil union law, a child born to one of the married lesbians would be (legally) assumed to be the child of both the women because that is the way the law is structured.

Are you sure? I thought you had to do a second parent adoption. It's great if that is the case, but it still doesn't make the child "legitimate"... I guess that unless a sex change is later involved, no same sex couple can have a legitimate child.

This would probably annoy me if such things like legitimacy were very relevant at all in the modern world

[JustE]

E, I like the name!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was hoping you'd like it!

Thanks again!

[crumpetsandtea]

E, I like the name!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was hoping you'd like it!

Thanks again!

No problem.

I'm so impatient. I'm like, sitting at work WILLING my email to deliver me some good news. I've been complete at WUSTL since 10/31 and then again on 12/2 and it's freaking me out that I'm not hearing back yet. Compound that witht he knowledge that NU won't be getting back to me till February and you have a very frustrated crumps

[D-hops]

Technically, with the new civil union law, a child born to one of the married lesbians would be (legally) assumed to be the child of both the women because that is the way the law is structured.

Are you sure? I thought you had to do a second parent adoption. It's great if that is the case, but it still doesn't make the child "legitimate"... I guess that unless a sex change is later involved, no same sex couple can have a legitimate child.

This would probably annoy me if such things like legitimacy were very relevant at all in the modern world

The civil union law makes anyone in a civil union treated identical to those in marriages under Illinois law. One presumption in IL law is that a child born to a married couple is the child of both the parents - so it holds that child would be the child of both parents in a civil union. Obviously second parent adoption is the recommended "belt and suspenders" approach but under the law it shouldn't be necessary.

[JustE]

How many TLS'ers are gonna make the cut for ED?

[emkay625]

How many TLS'ers are gonna make the cut for ED?

Let's start an over/under:

Over/under 3?

[franklyscarlet]

How many TLS'ers are gonna make the cut for ED?

Let's not go there

[JamMasterJ]

How many TLS'ers are gonna make the cut for ED?

2. Unless they take splitters