Harvard, C/O 2017, Applicants Thread (2013-2014) Forum

wtrc · Post by **wtrc** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:03 pm

Just was talking to a friend about this, and it fortunately isn't affecting me... But it looks like the C&F section was made a bit different this year, and less needs to be disclosed. Does anyone remember if this was the case last year? I thought expungements needed to be disclosed in the past?

zen · Post by **zen** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:44 pm

Spray and pray, baby

The-Specs · Post by **The-Specs** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:42 pm

djfududeman · Post by **djfududeman** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:29 pm

Got my app in...I think I'm all done applying to law schools this cycle! Hard to believe... now it's time to wait

t-14orbust · Post by **t-14orbust** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:49 pm

H's new c&f <3

The-Specs · Post by **The-Specs** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:58 pm

Humbert Humbert · Post by **Humbert Humbert** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:29 am

The C&F section only allows a 500 character answer to any/all of the questions, if you answer yes. The C&F statement I've used for all other apps is concise, but its more than 500 characters by a fair margin. The only attachments they allow are Resume, Personal Statement, Optional Statement and Addendum. Would it make sense to attach a C&F statement as an optional statement or addendum? Or should I try and my statement down to 500 characters, even though it might result in a less-than-comprehensive answer?

TripTrip · Post by **TripTrip** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:52 am

Humbert Humbert wrote:The C&F section only allows a 500 character answer to any/all of the questions, if you answer yes. The C&F statement I've used for all other apps is concise, but its more than 500 characters by a fair margin. The only attachments they allow are Resume, Personal Statement, Optional Statement and Addendum. Would it make sense to attach a C&F statement as an optional statement or addendum? Or should I try and my statement down to 500 characters, even though it might result in a less-than-comprehensive answer?

I think that depends on your C&F issue. If you liberally construed a traffic ticket to fit the criteria, trim it down. If you were convicted of murder, write an addendum.

Humbert Humbert · Post by **Humbert Humbert** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:01 am

TripTrip wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:The C&F section only allows a 500 character answer to any/all of the questions, if you answer yes. The C&F statement I've used for all other apps is concise, but its more than 500 characters by a fair margin. The only attachments they allow are Resume, Personal Statement, Optional Statement and Addendum. Would it make sense to attach a C&F statement as an optional statement or addendum? Or should I try and my statement down to 500 characters, even though it might result in a less-than-comprehensive answer?
I think that depends on your C&F issue. If you liberally construed a traffic ticket to fit the criteria, trim it down. If you were convicted of murder, write an addendum.

Thanks. It was two minor alcohol citations by campus security while in undergrad. I trimmed it down, and I think it should be fine.

Edit: the explanation section does not appear to be saving properly. I enter the text, hit save, and then when I preview the application, that section comes up as "no answer provided". Is this happening to anyone else?

LEPWU · Post by **LEPWU** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:53 pm

liz2534 · Post by **liz2534** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:05 pm

04102014 · Post by **04102014** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:13 pm

All of this C&F talk leads me to believe that you Harvard applicants are a bunch of party animals.

lastsamurai · Post by **lastsamurai** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:19 pm

^agreed. Also just got a nice email from JS saying that the app is open and referencing my attendance at her information session she hosted last month. Thought that was very classy!

djfududeman · Post by **djfududeman** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:15 pm

The-Specs wrote:
djfududeman wrote:Got my app in...I think I'm all done applying to law schools this cycle! Hard to believe... now it's time to wait
Really? No Yale?

My "chances" aren't worth the time and financial investment to me, especially as a K-JD. I'd need to retake the LSAT. I'll be more than happy with H or S, and I'm fine with my odds for at least one of those!

The-Specs · Post by **The-Specs** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:37 pm

TripTrip · Post by **TripTrip** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:30 pm

djfududeman wrote:
The-Specs wrote:
djfududeman wrote:Got my app in...I think I'm all done applying to law schools this cycle! Hard to believe... now it's time to wait
Really? No Yale?
My "chances" aren't worth the time and financial investment to me, especially as a K-JD. I'd need to retake the LSAT. I'll be more than happy with H or S, and I'm fine with my odds for at least one of those!

You'd need to retake for Yale but not Harvard? They have the same median...

CyanIdes Of March · Post by **CyanIdes Of March** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:35 pm

TripTrip wrote:
djfududeman wrote:
The-Specs wrote:
djfududeman wrote:Got my app in...I think I'm all done applying to law schools this cycle! Hard to believe... now it's time to wait
Really? No Yale?
My "chances" aren't worth the time and financial investment to me, especially as a K-JD. I'd need to retake the LSAT. I'll be more than happy with H or S, and I'm fine with my odds for at least one of those!
You'd need to retake for Yale but not Harvard? They have the same median...

Likely has a lower GPA that shuts him out of Yale with his current LSAT but gives him a fighting chance at H based on LSN data. I'm in the same boat but I'l' probably throw them an app anyways.

lawbeahs · Post by **lawbeahs** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:41 pm

delete

zaetoroftheprotoss · Post by **zaetoroftheprotoss** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:23 pm

Innovative · Post by **Innovative** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:32 pm

zaetoroftheprotoss wrote:First time poster on TLS...I was pretty psyched to apply to HLS in Dec as soon as my LSAT scores came out (first attempt; currently PTing between 175 and 178), but this thread has definitely deflated my vibe . I may just take the LSAT and wait until the next cycle to apply.

Why the deflated vibe?

zaetoroftheprotoss · Post by **zaetoroftheprotoss** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:57 pm

TripTrip · Post by **TripTrip** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:07 pm

I'm sorry to deflate vibes.

I know this is a sucky time of year to say this, but for me personally I really do wish that I had had the fortitude to take the June or October LSAT so I could submit earlier. I don't recommend taking the LSAT when you're not ready, but I do want anyone who takes the December LSAT for this application cycle to be ready for the downsides. Besides not getting in, I found that the biggest downside was that scholarship dollars had largely already been allocated. I didn't get any worthwhile full rides until after deposit deadlines when the first scholarship recipients decided on something else.

Is it worth waiting out a cycle? I'm not sure. If you're K-JD, I think the answer is probably yes. For me, I ended up exactly where I would have if I had waited to apply next cycle, though I probably would have been a straight admit rather than sitting on the waitlist. But if I hadn't gotten in I would have seriously considered reapplying, which would have put me at a totally separate disadvantage.

zaetoroftheprotoss · Post by **zaetoroftheprotoss** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:19 pm

Dr. Dre · Post by **Dr. Dre** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:35 pm

i think this cycle will be easier to get in than last cycle...

thoughts?

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