In at Stanford: Class of 2016 Forum

[Alassio]

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[ManOfTheMinute]

I dunno, it's getting pretty late Yoda.

Are you calling Dean Deal a liar? She said EOW... but maybe thats just gonna be for two people, neither of whom are on TLS. I'm interested in what this year's student budget and mandatory contribution are gonna be

[spicyyoda17]

I dunno, it's getting pretty late Yoda.

Are you calling Dean Deal a liar? She said EOW... but maybe thats just gonna be for two people, neither of whom are on TLS. I'm interested in what this year's student budget and mandatory contribution are gonna be

Unexpected fruit of the law school application process = developing greater patience

Wait for professors writing LORs
Wait for application to go complete
Wait for interview invite
Wait for decision
Wait for finaid
etc.

For me, finaid is going to play a huge role in my final decision. No aid from SLS/HLS = most likely going to UChi. Little aid from SLS/HLS = toss up. Big aid from SLS/HLS = definitely going SLS/HLS route.

I guess that's why I am getting so antsy

[bernaldiaz]

MotM, I'm also looking at the JD/MA in Economics program. I'm not sure I want to do it yet, but it definitely caught my eye.

I wonder how difficult it is to get into these programs after admittance into the JD program.

I found this through google (not bing): http://gap.stanford.edu/5-1.html ... does quite say how easy or hard it is, but it seems to bypass the external application process and as such I'm sure it will be easier (especially if you have taken a course or two in the subject at stanford and enjoyed it/done well)

This is almost certainly a very stupid question, but do you have to be Econ or at least a quant undergrad degree to do the Econ masters?

[vzapana]

Ugh I'm still thinking about Harvard's asw. Why is Stanford's so late? I'm going to have a whole month salivating over hls.

[ManOfTheMinute]

Ugh I'm still thinking about Harvard's asw. Why is Stanford's so late? I'm going to have a whole month salivating over hls.

And thats why I prefer HLS's second ASW. You see them both at the same time so it's a lot easier to compare the two. And its so late to allow everyone to come to it, just like YLS' and HLS' second one.

[spicyyoda17]

New budget info: http://www.law.stanford.edu/tuition/jd

[ManOfTheMinute]

New budget info: http://www.law.stanford.edu/tuition/jd

Thanks... jeez $80K, with $39K no matter what.

[hung jury]

New budget info: http://www.law.stanford.edu/tuition/jd

Thanks... jeez $80K, with $39K no matter what.

2009-2010 minimum loans were $28500. Meaning you should probably budget in an 8% annual increase in the minimum payment.

[vzapana]

New budget info: http://www.law.stanford.edu/tuition/jd

Thanks... jeez $80K, with $39K no matter what.

2009-2010 minimum loans were $28500. Meaning you should probably budget in an 8% annual increase in the minimum payment.

O.O
Terrifying

[Yukos]

Everyone's going to ASW right? HLS's was so great I'm excited to see what Stanford's looks like.

[honeybadger12]

MotM, I'm also looking at the JD/MA in Economics program. I'm not sure I want to do it yet, but it definitely caught my eye.

I wonder how difficult it is to get into these programs after admittance into the JD program.

I found this through google (not bing): http://gap.stanford.edu/5-1.html ... does quite say how easy or hard it is, but it seems to bypass the external application process and as such I'm sure it will be easier (especially if you have taken a course or two in the subject at stanford and enjoyed it/done well)

This is almost certainly a very stupid question, but do you have to be Econ or at least a quant undergrad degree to do the Econ masters?

I'm not sure but I think you have to have a somewhat substantial quant background

[az21833]

what do u guys mean "minimum loan"? i

[ManOfTheMinute]

what do u guys mean "minimum loan"? i

Even if SLS determines that you are the poorest person/family in the history of the United States, the biggest grant they might give you is (Student Budget - Minimum Loan)... in this case 80500 - 39000 = $41,500 is the maximum grant you can get in any one year, and you are responsible for paying/taking out a loan for $39,000.

At least that is how I read the FinAid material...

[amonthofsundays]

Thats the way I took it, but this raises an interesting question. Say they do give you a 41k grant, how do they determine which expenses it must be used for? The most typical thing would be to take that grant money and put it straight towards tuition. Then you would have to finance another 9k or so for the rest of tuition but then do you really HAVE to borrow another 30k just for living expenses? If they do disburse the full 39k then what happens if you don't use it all?

[southwick]

what do u guys mean "minimum loan"? i

Even if SLS determines that you are the poorest person/family in the history of the United States

The calculated budget for families is larger than $80k (it increases with each kid, obviously). So the grant can indeed be larger than $41k.

[hung jury]

what do u guys mean "minimum loan"? i

Even if SLS determines that you are the poorest person/family in the history of the United States, the biggest grant they might give you is (Student Budget - Minimum Loan)... in this case 80500 - 39000 = $41,500 is the maximum grant you can get in any one year, and you are responsible for paying/taking out a loan for $39,000.

At least that is how I read the FinAid material...

Yes, this is part of it. Your aid = COA - minimum loans - student expected contribution (see SLS website for how to calculate your expected contribution). Note that the minimum loans figure affects all need-based funding, not just those who get the maximum.

The grant is usually less than the tuition and fees so it is just applied directly to your Stanford bill every quarter. Not sure how they deal with it in the case of families, where it might go above the university bill.

ETA: As southwick notes, family COA can be higher than the 80k. Adjust your formula accordingly.

[khaleesi]

Thats the way I took it, but this raises an interesting question. Say they do give you a 41k grant, how do they determine which expenses it must be used for? The most typical thing would be to take that grant money and put it straight towards tuition. Then you would have to finance another 9k or so for the rest of tuition but then do you really HAVE to borrow another 30k just for living expenses? If they do disburse the full 39k then what happens if you don't use it all?

Stanford might be different, but I know at Harvard they don't give any grant money until after you take out the base loan.

[Davidbentley]

Thats the way I took it, but this raises an interesting question. Say they do give you a 41k grant, how do they determine which expenses it must be used for? The most typical thing would be to take that grant money and put it straight towards tuition. Then you would have to finance another 9k or so for the rest of tuition but then do you really HAVE to borrow another 30k just for living expenses? If they do disburse the full 39k then what happens if you don't use it all?

They put it towards tuition, then it's up to you how much you take out in loans.

[az21833]

sounds like a good system to me personally

[davee817]

Any money offers yet?

[Alassio]

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[jbagelboy]

Anyone else interested in international law?

I'm trying to get a sense of how much it is possible to pursue this at Stanford, and mostly trying to convince myself that Stanford > Harvard for me, despite that my academic interests are strongly towards international law and Europe in particular. Harvard just has a lot of professors researching these topics, whether in the law school or kennedy school.

That said, I'm trying to learn as much as possible in the coming weeks, because really, for everything else, Stanford seems like the way to go.

if international law in europe is really what you want to do, harvard is the obvious choice with columbia a most likely 2nd, to be honest

edit: but if theres a decent chance that ISNT exactly what you want to do, then stanford is great at just about anythin I imagine.

[tirakon]

How long does it typically take to be accepted into the Google Group?

[bernaldiaz]

How long does it typically take to be accepted into the Google Group?

Did anyone actually join the google group?