Harvard C/O 2019 Applicants Forum

[oliverotis]

We have an hour before the phone lines open! Today's the day!

(it has to be)

dude seriously, ya gotta stop tempting fate like that

[cantorb]

Good morning Havrard waiters!

Morning li'l Sebastian! And everyone else

It feels like a great day to get a call from the 617

How awesome would it be if they mirrored the LSAT release and gave us green and grey icons that indicated a decision or not.

Hahahaha between June and October I think I have had just about all the green/grey icon neurosis that I can handle

The two things that I'm most thankful for in life:

1. That I took the LSAT once and did well enough that I felt confident in not taking it again.

2. That I didn't find TLS until after I'd studied for, taken, and gotten my score back from said test.

+180 on both points.

I had a nasty virus the day of the LSAT and felt like a train wreck both during the test and afterwards, but considering that my score was far and away the primary factor in my JS2, that turned out to be the best day of my life (so far).

[jetsfan1]

I'm thankful as all heck I found TLS when I did. Without it I would be a K-JD at a T2 paying sticker. And that is no exaggeration either. I was in the middle of writing my PS with my very subpar first take senior year when I stumbled upon TLS, decided to postpone LS, and here I am several years later with a JS2 and some other amazing options.

TLS saved my career. Period.

[WinterComing]

I'm thankful as all heck I found TLS when I did. Without it I would be a K-JD at a T2 paying sticker. And that is no exaggeration either. I was in the middle of writing my PS with my very subpar first take senior year when I stumbled upon TLS, decided to postpone LS, and here I am several years later with a JS2 and some other amazing options.

TLS saved my career. Period.

That's an awesome testimonial, and I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on TLS. What I wrote probably didn't come off the way I intended. Sorry. This forum has been hugely helpful throughout the application process, and I've been lurking in the "choosing a law school" forum a ton looking for wisdom about which of my very good options to choose.

My point was just that, since I was able to do well on the LSAT on my own, I'm not sad that I missed the extra neuroticism and paranoia that can come when sharing one's anxious anticipation with a bunch of equally anxious strangers. I have no idea what the green vs. gray indicators discussed above are, and I'm OK with that.

[Bearlyalive]

Well, not to interrupt the JS2 rain-dancing, but just wanted to comment that my interview felt really good. Had JS herself, and it was very conversational. I expected a lot more discussion of my resume, but I don't know that I got a single question about it. Nor did I get a "Why Harvard?", "Why law?", or "Why law now?", which was unexpected but certainly not unwelcome (I totally didn't spend the entirety of last night fretting about perfect answers to those questions, nope, not me). Mainly talked about my work experiences, particularly with regard to the mentorship I received in one of my internships.

Ok, you may now return to your regularly scheduled broadcast of JS2 hype.

[jetsfan1]

I'm thankful as all heck I found TLS when I did. Without it I would be a K-JD at a T2 paying sticker. And that is no exaggeration either. I was in the middle of writing my PS with my very subpar first take senior year when I stumbled upon TLS, decided to postpone LS, and here I am several years later with a JS2 and some other amazing options.

TLS saved my career. Period.

That's an awesome testimonial, and I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on TLS. What I wrote probably didn't come off the way I intended. Sorry. This forum has been hugely helpful throughout the application process, and I've been luring in the "choosing a law school" forum a ton looking for wisdom about which of my very good options to choose.

My point was just that, since I was able to do well on the LSAT on my own, I'm not sad that I missed the extra neuroticism and paranoia that can come when sharing one's anxious anticipation with a bunch of equally anxious strangers. I have no idea what the green vs. gray indicators discussed above are, and I'm OK with that.

Nah that's my bad. I totally got what you meant, was just that you guys reminiscing about finding TLS made me think about my situation too. Can definitely understand how not having to experience a waiter's thread is good for life haha

[cantorb]

I'm thankful as all heck I found TLS when I did. Without it I would be a K-JD at a T2 paying sticker. And that is no exaggeration either. I was in the middle of writing my PS with my very subpar first take senior year when I stumbled upon TLS, decided to postpone LS, and here I am several years later with a JS2 and some other amazing options.

TLS saved my career. Period.

That's an awesome testimonial, and I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on TLS. What I wrote probably didn't come off the way I intended. Sorry. This forum has been hugely helpful throughout the application process, and I've been luring in the "choosing a law school" forum a ton looking for wisdom about which of my very good options to choose.

My point was just that, since I was able to do well on the LSAT on my own, I'm not sad that I missed the extra neuroticism and paranoia that can come when sharing one's anxious anticipation with a bunch of equally anxious strangers. I have no idea what the green vs. gray indicators discussed above are, and I'm OK with that.

In addition to all of these very valid points, I have enough friends who are in a variety of law schools (from Harvard down to Hofstra) or the application process, and I already knew about the massive employment divide between the T14 and everyone else. While TLS and LST have still been incredible resources and I've learned a ton of vital details - especially about what to focus on in the actual applications and how to formulate the various components - I am definitely glad that I took the LSAT and waited for my score in a (relatively) calm bubble. TLS is an amazing resource, but having a network of friends and acquaintances who have been down the same road and were intelligent enough to do their research well is irreplaceable.

[Bearlyalive]

That's an awesome testimonial, and I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on TLS. What I wrote probably didn't come off the way I intended. Sorry. This forum has been hugely helpful throughout the application process, and I've been luring in the "choosing a law school" forum a ton looking for wisdom about which of my very good options to choose.

My point was just that, since I was able to do well on the LSAT on my own, I'm not sad that I missed the extra neuroticism and paranoia that can come when sharing one's anxious anticipation with a bunch of equally anxious strangers. I have no idea what the green vs. gray indicators discussed above are, and I'm OK with that.

I'm totally with you. I wasn't introduced to TLS until after I had already gotten my LSAT score as well, and while the advice on these boards is obviously phenomenal, I know that the above-referenced neuroticism would have probably thrown me on test day if I had been checking TLS every day then like I do now. I studied for the LSAT with a friend from college, and believe me when I say we did plenty enough worrying on our own.

I also didn't learn about "grey-day" until this last December. When I found out my score had been released, it was actually because my friend texted me that he had gotten his score back and wanted to know mine!

[ftge232]

Status on interview slots?

[WinterComing]

That's an awesome testimonial, and I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on TLS. What I wrote probably didn't come off the way I intended. Sorry. This forum has been hugely helpful throughout the application process, and I've been luring in the "choosing a law school" forum a ton looking for wisdom about which of my very good options to choose.

My point was just that, since I was able to do well on the LSAT on my own, I'm not sad that I missed the extra neuroticism and paranoia that can come when sharing one's anxious anticipation with a bunch of equally anxious strangers. I have no idea what the green vs. gray indicators discussed above are, and I'm OK with that.

I'm totally with you. I wasn't introduced to TLS until after I had already gotten my LSAT score as well, and while the advice on these boards is obviously phenomenal, I know that the above-referenced neuroticism would have probably thrown me on test day if I had been checking TLS every day then like I do now. I studied for the LSAT with a friend from college, and believe me when I say we did plenty enough worrying on our own.

I also didn't learn about "grey-day" until this last December. When I found out my score had been released, it was actually because my friend texted me that he had gotten his score back and wanted to know mine!

Haha, yeah, I think I learned that scores had been released on Twitter by accident.

[tflan19]

Status on interview slots?

There are 10ish still open on the 11th and 12th. Pretty normal for after a JS1 wave.

[meowmers]

Status on interview slots?

There are 10ish still open on the 11th and 12th. Pretty normal for after a JS1 wave.

i cannot stress how boss you are for doing this.

[bobgenghiskhan]

Just to add another perspective, it felt AMAZING to come across the TLS thread in my score-waiting days. I knew virtually one other person in real life who had taken it at the same time I did, and the jokes in that thread were a real stress outlet. I remember laughing out loud at my computer for a few days leading up to Gray Day.

[ftge232]

Status on interview slots?

There are 10ish still open on the 11th and 12th. Pretty normal for after a JS1 wave.

Anyone with insight on typical timetable for those with borderline numbers and high likelihood of being waitlisted?

[tflan19]

Status on interview slots?

There are 10ish still open on the 11th and 12th. Pretty normal for after a JS1 wave.

i cannot stress how boss you are for doing this.

thanks! I'm just glad to make my daily constant refreshing of this thread from 3-5pm EST somewhat productive.

Anyone with insight on typical timetable for those with borderline numbers and high likelihood of being waitlisted?

It looks like rejections started flowing freely in the first few days of Feb last year. Waitlists don't generally come until march!

Source: http://mylsn.info/r/pre-law/timeline/chart/

[ftge232]

Status on interview slots?

There are 10ish still open on the 11th and 12th. Pretty normal for after a JS1 wave.

i cannot stress how boss you are for doing this.

thanks! I'm just glad to make my daily constant refreshing of this thread from 3-5pm EST somewhat productive.

Anyone with insight on typical timetable for those with borderline numbers and high likelihood of being waitlisted?

It looks like rejections started flowing freely in the first few days of Feb last year. Waitlists don't generally come until march!

Source: http://mylsn.info/r/pre-law/timeline/chart/

Assuming that I'm gonna be waitlisted, should I expect an interview first or straight to waitlist in March? Are js1s that go to waitlist given precedence over those that have been waitlisted without an interview?

[Li'l Sebastian]

Assuming that I'm gonna be waitlisted, should I expect an interview first or straight to waitlist in March? Are js1s that go to waitlist given precedence over those that have been waitlisted without an interview?

You're more likely to get accepted from the waitlist if you are selected for a JS1 after you've been put on the list.

[tflan19]

Assuming that I'm gonna be waitlisted, should I expect an interview first or straight to waitlist in March? Are js1s that go to waitlist given precedence over those that have been waitlisted without an interview?

In the past, there have been individuals waitlisted with and without JS1s. I don't know that anyone has ever determined if there is some sort of preference offered to those waitlisted with prior JS1s but it certainly doesn't seem to be officially announced. Individuals can receive JS1s off of the waitlist, so I guess those waitlisted after an interview are further along in the process than those without JS1s, but I don't think we can say they have a leg up or anything. Their stats and app may have been more impressive than those without JS1s, in order to receive a JS1, but they were obviously waitlisted for some reason (their interview wasn't so hot, etc).

[bamb00zled]

does no JS1 by now pretty much guarantee a rejection?

Far from it. If you applied recently (dec-jan), they might still be working down the pile of apps. If you applied earlier and survived the rejection wave earlier this week, then you might be on some sort of internal hold. If you were guaranteed a rejection, you would have already been rejected.

Thanks! I submitted mid October so its definitely not a they haven't read my file yet situation, but I've been purposefully staying away from this thread for emotional self-preservation so I didn't see that they've started rejections so that's great (word choice?...) to hear.

Also just went ten pages back to read up on all the haps and would like to thank you for not making me feel like a total asshole for asking something that has been answered.

this is tflan

tflan has information that is helpful to TLSers and HLS hopefuls

tflan doesn't make people who don't live in these chat rooms feel bad for not reading thousands of archived messages to find an answer

tflan is kind

be like tflan

[lawstud24]

Does JS interviewing mean likely no JS2s today?

[oliverotis]

Does JS interviewing mean likely no JS2s today?

doesn't mean anything, you stop that!

[Bearlyalive]

Does JS interviewing mean likely no JS2s today?

doesn't mean anything, you stop that!

Interview was in the morning, and JS2s are afternoon. Don't be putting bad juju on me!! JS2s will shower over everyone!

[tflan19]

Does JS interviewing mean likely no JS2s today?

It shouldn't! The last interview slot of the day is typically 3:40 EST (20 minute slots) so she could still make some calls this afternoon. Also, they have used staff other than JS to make the calls so far this cycle.

That being said, all of the JS2 waves so far this cycle have started by 3:30 EST so it looks like we're out of luck for today...

There goes my dream of a January JS2 (I'd love to be wrong, and often am)

[Timantha]

Clearly we were not rain-dancing hard enough. We need to dance harder next week

[Li'l Sebastian]

Clearly we were not rain-dancing hard enough. We need to dance harder next week

+180x180