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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by GordonFreeman » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:10 pm

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GordonFreeman wrote:Congratulations cool kids with JS1s. You now have the tentative imprimatur of HLS.
Don't be jinxing. 30% don't get squat.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by leotolstoy » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:29 pm

I just got an interview invite. I'm sure this is somewhere in this thread, but maybe someone knowledgeable can give me a quick answer: What's the percentage of those interviewed that get accepted?

Any prep advice from people who have already completed their interview?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:32 pm

leotolstoy wrote:I just got an interview invite. I'm sure this is somewhere in this thread, but maybe someone knowledgeable can give me a quick answer: What's the percentage of those interviewed that get accepted?
Approximately 75%. Roughly 900 receive offers of admission and they interview around 1200 applicants.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by ElizabethKB » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:44 pm

pylon wrote:
leotolstoy wrote:I just got an interview invite. I'm sure this is somewhere in this thread, but maybe someone knowledgeable can give me a quick answer: What's the percentage of those interviewed that get accepted?
Approximately 75%. Roughly 900 receive offers of admission and they interview around 1200 applicants.
I'm curious if there's any correlation between time between complete and JS1 and likelihood of acceptance. I'd imagine a quicker JS1 turnaround is a better sign. Anybody know if there's anything concrete on this?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by kadyevna » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:47 pm

GordonFreeman wrote:
Kobaine51 wrote:
GordonFreeman wrote:Congratulations cool kids with JS1s. You now have the tentative imprimatur of HLS.
Don't be jinxing. 30% don't get squat.

this, but also congrats to all new JS1!!

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Post by Orion311 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:45 am

I know this is difficult to quantify, and nearly impossible to assess based on individual accounts, but how much weight do you all think the interview has in the admissions committee's decision?

Just curious about your opinions. If numbers are such a powerful predictor of acceptance, and experience/extracurriculars often account for the parts that are left, how important is the interview really? Is it actually super important and it just so happens that capable applicants also give better interviews, or is it basically just a quick check of whether there's a socially competent person behind the numbers?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:09 am

ElizabethKB wrote:I'm curious if there's any correlation between time between complete and JS1 and likelihood of acceptance. I'd imagine a quicker JS1 turnaround is a better sign. Anybody know if there's anything concrete on this?
That's a really interesting question. We could look at LSN for past cycles, but it wouldn't be easily accessible to get JS1 information. Perhaps the applicant spreadsheet from last cycle? I'll try and take a look this weekend.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:12 am

Orion311 wrote:I know this is difficult to quantify, and nearly impossible to assess based on individual accounts, but how much weight do you all think the interview has in the admissions committee's decision?

Just curious about your opinions. If numbers are such a powerful predictor of acceptance, and experience/extracurriculars often account for the parts that are left, how important is the interview really? Is it actually super important and it just so happens that capable applicants also give better interviews, or is it basically just a quick check of whether there's a socially competent person behind the numbers?
I think it depends on the applicant. For those with stellar numbers, it could just be a check to see if they're personable. For those applicants who have numbers on the fringe or weaknesses in their application, the interview could be an opportunity to address those weaknesses and prove themselves capable. In this second instance, I think that yes, the interview would be important.

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Post by LoganCouture » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:16 am

Orion311 wrote:I know this is difficult to quantify, and nearly impossible to assess based on individual accounts, but how much weight do you all think the interview has in the admissions committee's decision?

Just curious about your opinions. If numbers are such a powerful predictor of acceptance, and experience/extracurriculars often account for the parts that are left, how important is the interview really? Is it actually super important and it just so happens that capable applicants also give better interviews, or is it basically just a quick check of whether there's a socially competent person behind the numbers?
I think it's more like a social skills check and makes HLS feel more personable/human. I'm guessing given the large class size they want to work hard to make you feel like a person, not a number. I feel like most people have really easy/enjoyable interviews so I don't think it's super important compared to everything else.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Auxilio » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:16 am

Orion311 wrote:I know this is difficult to quantify, and nearly impossible to assess based on individual accounts, but how much weight do you all think the interview has in the admissions committee's decision?

Just curious about your opinions. If numbers are such a powerful predictor of acceptance, and experience/extracurriculars often account for the parts that are left, how important is the interview really? Is it actually super important and it just so happens that capable applicants also give better interviews, or is it basically just a quick check of whether there's a socially competent person behind the numbers?
I believe it has been attributed to Karen in the Spivey thread that people are rarely declined due to the interview, and it is more likely the faculty review afterwards that lends leads to being declined.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:21 am

Auxilio wrote:I believe it has been attributed to Karen in the Spivey thread that people are rarely declined due to the interview, and it is more likely the faculty review afterwards that lends leads to being declined.
Do you mind expanding on this? I'm not sure I understand.

Is this saying that the faculty review which looks at numbers, essays, form, and notes from the interviewer on the interview is what decides whether people are declined or accepted (rather than just the interview)?

If so, that makes sense.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:18 am

ElizabethKB wrote:I'm curious if there's any correlation between time between complete and JS1 and likelihood of acceptance. I'd imagine a quicker JS1 turnaround is a better sign. Anybody know if there's anything concrete on this?
Okay so I was curious about this, and did a very basic, probably flawed calculation to come up with some numbers (data from the applicant spreadsheet last year).

Keep in mind there are literally only 5 data points of people who were Denied last year after receiving interviews on the applicant spreadsheet after filtering out URMs, those with Decision Pending, and those with no interview, etc. There is no ways the following should be taken as statistical evidence, it's more just for curiosity sake.

The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Denied applicants: 20.6
The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Accepted applicants: 14.0


Again I want to reiterate that these numbers are meaningless. The cycle is different this year, and there are so few data points that the variance makes these numbers useless. However, it seems like there could be a correlation between the time of complete -> JS1 and rate of acceptance.

ETA: Waitlist data as per Kobaine's suggestion:
The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Denied/WL applicants: 16.5
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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by Kobaine51 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:50 am

pylon wrote:
ElizabethKB wrote:I'm curious if there's any correlation between time between complete and JS1 and likelihood of acceptance. I'd imagine a quicker JS1 turnaround is a better sign. Anybody know if there's anything concrete on this?
Okay so I was curious about this, and did a very basic, probably flawed calculation to come up with some numbers (data from the applicant spreadsheet last year).

Keep in mind there are literally only 5 data points of people who were Denied last year after receiving interviews on the applicant spreadsheet after filtering out URMs, those with Decision Pending, and those with no interview, etc. There is no ways the following should be taken as statistical evidence, it's more just for curiosity sake.

The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Denied applicants: 20.6
The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Accepted applicants: 14.0


Again I want to reiterate that these numbers are meaningless. The cycle is different this year, and there are so few data points that the variance makes these numbers useless. However, it seems like there could be a correlation between the time of complete -> JS1 and rate of acceptance.
Look at waitlists if you want a more robust set

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by blueberrysmoothie » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:52 am

Long time lurker. Just got my JS1. So if the invite came from a personal email address, I can assume that this person will conduct my interview?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by pylon » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:55 am

Kobaine51 wrote:Look at waitlists if you want a more robust set
Good call. Still only 5 more (10 total) - but it did change the numbers. There's now less difference between the time from complete -> JS1 for Denied/WL applicants compared to Accepted.

The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Denied/WL applicants: 16.5
The average amount of days it took from Complete -> JS1 for Accepted applicants: 14.0

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Post by R. Jeeves » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:02 am

blueberrysmoothie wrote:Long time lurker. Just got my JS1. So if the invite came from a personal email address, I can assume that this person will conduct my interview?
Congrats!

I got my email from Josh Mauro, but I had my interview with Jessica Soban.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2018 Applicants (2014-2015 Cycle)

Post by blueberrysmoothie » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:46 am

pulstar1 wrote:
blueberrysmoothie wrote:Long time lurker. Just got my JS1. So if the invite came from a personal email address, I can assume that this person will conduct my interview?
Congrats!

I got my email from Josh Mauro, but I had my interview with Jessica Soban.
Thanks for letting me know. :D :D

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Post by HorseThief » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:23 am

Re: The Importance of Interviews

I think y'all are right about the interview having a small component of a 'personality check'. However, if that's the main thing they're watching for, they must have very low standards, 'cause all sorts of weird people get in here. In my purely speculative opinion, interviews are 5% filtering for absolutely unemployable people, 45% getting clarification on things from the application, and 50% getting you to want to come to HLS. Most interviews tend to be enjoyable and my impression from my interview was that they were selling me hard on the school. Seems like the interview becomes a chance to have that personal touch in the process that might make one have more warm fuzzies for HLS compared to other schools.

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Post by BillsFan9907 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:35 am

blueberrysmoothie wrote:Long time lurker. Just got my JS1. So if the invite came from a personal email address, I can assume that this person will conduct my interview?
Congrats! There are several interviewers but the invites are sent out exclusively from one email account. You can't predict who will be your interviewer.

The interviews range from a pure interview, in which you are asked directed questions and you respond in turn, to a full blown conversation.

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Post by ballcaps » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:36 am

HorseThief wrote:Re: The Importance of Interviews

I think y'all are right about the interview having a small component of a 'personality check'. However, if that's the main thing they're watching for, they must have very low standards, 'cause all sorts of weird people get in here. In my purely speculative opinion, interviews are 5% filtering for absolutely unemployable people, 45% getting clarification on things from the application, and 50% getting you to want to come to HLS. Most interviews tend to be enjoyable and my impression from my interview was that they were selling me hard on the school. Seems like the interview becomes a chance to have that personal touch in the process that might make one have more warm fuzzies for HLS compared to other schools.
thanks for this. the thing i still don't really get is the acceptance rate after interviews.

50% would tell me the interview is a key assessment; 90% would tell me it's a rather large hoop to jump through, and 10% of applicants can't interview to save their lives.

but 70-80%? i just can't wrap my head around that...

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Post by BillsFan9907 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:43 am

ballcaps wrote:
thanks for this. the thing i still don't really get is the acceptance rate after interviews.

50% would tell me the interview is a key assessment; 90% would tell me it's a rather large hoop to jump through, and 10% of applicants can't interview to save their lives.

but 70-80%? i just can't wrap my head around that...
Come again. Are you saying that because those who are interviewed get admitted at such a high rate, the the interview is really important?

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